The Mourinho Thread

[firejose 9]

Chelsea would be 'foolish' to sack Jose Mourinho, says Sir Alex Ferguson

He wants us to get relegated. All non-CFC fans wants Mourinho to stay.

[Laylabelle 9,351]

We were foolish last time.this time round however...

[lucio 5,418]

Chelsea would be 'foolish' to sack Jose Mourinho, says Sir Alex Ferguson

he would say that.....

[Pizy 18,368]

We'll know one way or the other within days. If we go out of the CL and he still isn't sacked then I think he'll go on to honor his whole contract. That'll finally demonstrate that Roman has complete and unwavering support for José.

[bellion 170]

I'm really happy that Roman is standing by his man.

But with all due respect, the atmosphere here is getting ridiculous, Fans calling other Fans fanboys or even worse, very bad and no respect whatsoever.

"Standing by" is an euphemism for sharpening the axe until the time is right which 'i reckon is when the match-going fans turn on Mounrinho.

When blind Mourinho followers or fanboys stand by their idol even in the face of relegation due to his stubborness and ego, that is what I would consider a ridiculous situation.

[Tomo 21,733]

"Standing by" is an euphemism for sharpening the axe until the time is right which 'i reckon is when the match-going fans turn on Mounrinho.

When blind Mourinho followers or fanboys stand by their idol even in the face of relegation due to his stubborness and ego, that is what I would consider a ridiculous situation.

Who is you're favroite person that has ever represented Chelsea? Can be a player or manager.

[bellion 170]

We support Mourinho because of Chelsea, we don't support Chelsea because of Mourinho.

We support the one who gave us so much joy and success at his time here, 3 out of our 4 league titles since Roman are won with Jose. Don't forget the 2 League cups, 1 FA cup and 3 CL semi finals. This is the first season that he is really struggling and you're immediately calling for his head and name him '' a stinker of a manager'' , ''clown'' or ''fraud''. Such a disgrace, loyalty isn't in your dictionary.

If we are fanboys and sycophants, then you're fucking piece of plastic and glory hunter.

Ah the typical rage exhibited by the fanboys when their Special One is questioned or highlighted for his faults in dragging the club down and not making any changes to rectify the situation.

Two can play at this insult game - take your plastic crap and shove it up your f*cking rear orrifice!

[bellion 170]

Who is you're favroite person that has ever represented Chelsea? Can be a player or manager.

That would be Ray Wilkins

[Tomo 21,733]

That would be Ray Wilkins

If he returned as gaffer and relegated us, would be a little easier on the crtisism due to him being your favroite? If the answer is yes, then surely you can understand why there's people who are giving the man who's brought home three titles to this club similar type of leniency?

[Darogba 112]

TOP 4 is mission impossible now. Even Alex Ferguson as interim manager can't guarantee it. So the best thing would be to search for a new manager and hire him as soon as possible, then give him the rest of the season to assess the squad and implement a different playing style without setting any huge goals and putting pressure on him. Personally I'd recall a few youth players from loan and play them in the league. Try to win the FA cup at least and have a give us fans a little something to be happy about.

Hopefully we don't relegated in the meantime with Mourinho.

We can easily do top 4 If we get rid of the manager. This is one of the worst premier league campaigns I can remember in terms of quality amongst the top guys. City are inconsistent, Utd aren't scoring, Arsenal are riddled with injuries and looks like only Liverpool could go on a decent run. With the players we have we can easily put a run together and grab top four, but the board needs to act and act now. The longer we wait the harder it will become.

[Darogba 112]

Ah the typical rage exhibited by the fanboys when their Special One is questioned or highlighted for his faults in dragging the club down and not making any changes to rectify the situation.

Two can play at this insult game - take your plastic crap and shove it up your f*cking rear orrifice!

I agree with the poster. You might want to see him gone but he doesn't deserve this amount of insult and vitriol. You'd never seen Utd fans insulting Ferguson like this or Liverpool fans insulting dalglish even if those managers were struggling with results because they recognise what he's done for them in the past. Let's give Mourinho that same treatment.

[Tomo 21,733]

We can easily do top 4 If we get rid of the manager. This is one of the worst premier league campaigns I can remember in terms of quality amongst the top guys. City are inconsistent, Utd aren't scoring, Arsenal are riddled with injuries and looks like only Liverpool could go on a decent run. With the players we have we can easily put a run together and grab top four, but the board needs to act and act now. The longer we wait the harder it will become.

Liverpool on a decent run? I'd back us to do it before they do, they are wildly inconsistent, yes they may have thrashed City and Saints, but in the midst of it they have lost to Palace, Newcastle and narrowly beat a Swansea side on their knees and were dreadful in all three games, yesterday was the worst team.performance by any side this season, and given I've seen every Game we've played, that's saying something.

[bellion 170]

If he returned as gaffer and relegated us, would be a little easier on the crtisism due to him being your favroite? If the answer is yes, then surely you can understand why there's people who are giving the man who's brought home three titles to this club similar type of leniency?

On the contrary, I am a lot more objecitve than the Mourinho fanboys. I would never want Wilkins as the manager much as I liked him as a player.

Good for Mourinho to have won all those trophies and titles but there comes a time when some managers stop evolving their style and tactics and improvement ceases. Mourinho doesn't have a clue how to improve matters on the pitch now and with his enormous ego, he will insist on his favourites, double pivots, what have you. I can think of LVG being a football manager who has also hit a roadblock and ground to a halt.

[Darogba 112]

Liverpool on a decent run? I'd back us to do it before they do, they are wildly inconsistent, yes they may have thrashed City and Saints, but in the midst of it they have lost to Palace, Newcastle and narrowly beat a Swansea side on their knees and were dreadful in all three games, yesterday was the worst team.performance by any side this season, and given I've seen every Game we've played, that's saying something.

Klopp is a very good manager and still finding his feet. I really wanted him here at Chelsea until the dippers got him. Obviously they'd lose games but they look much more consistent than under Brendan.

[Tomo 21,733]

On the contrary, I am a lot more objecitve than the Mourinho fanboys. I would never want Wilkins as the manager much as I liked him as a player.

Good for Mourinho to have won all those trophies and titles but there comes a time when some managers stop evolving their style and tactics and improvement ceases. Mourinho doesn't have a clue how to improve matters on the pitch now and with his enormous ego, he will insist on his favourites, double pivots, what have you. I can think of LVG being a football manager who has also hit a roadblock and ground to a halt.

I don't mean you actively want him as manager, but If it ended up happening and he flopped badly, would you like being called a Ray fanboy for not being too harsh on him?

[Tomo 21,733]

Klopp is a very good manager and still finding his feet. I really wanted him here at Chelsea until the dippers got him. Obviously they'd lose games but they look much more consistent than under Brendan.

He will probably fix the issue in the summer, but their is only so much he can do with that current side.

[bellion 170]

I agree with the poster. You might want to see him gone but he doesn't deserve this amount of insult and vitriol. You'd never seen Utd fans insulting Ferguson like this or Liverpool fans insulting dalglish even if those managers were struggling with results because they recognise what he's done for them in the past. Let's give Mourinho that same treatment.

Obviously you haven't seen the amount of insults hurled at these two individuals when things went bad with both Man Utd and Pool under the reigns of Meessrs Ferguson and Dalglish. What I have posted is pretty mild and it doesn't even resemble vitriol. Just because I want Mourinho out gets all the fanboys riled up and they start cussing and swearing blue streaks.

Mourinho is NOT going to change his approach to matches, tactics or team selection. Hence, things will continue as they are. If you can accept that, then I can see why you would want him to stay.

[Essien19 1,415]

It's not a matter of standing by Mourinho, It's about what is best for our club. He just can't get us to score goals from open play or stop losing till December.

This season is lost because of Mourinho, and if he loves us as much as he says he would resign and prevent us from spending money we would have gotten if we qualified for the Champions League if we sack him.

The players are no longer responding to his defensive motivational skills, they don't trust the lies of playing performing players anymore, they're not fighting for Mourinho. So if he loves us, he should go.

Three years with us and we've only played any sort of attacking football for 3 months last season. Leichester city have players who are not the level of any team Mourinho has managed at Chelsea, but see the difference in attacking play between us and them. They are not topping the table just because other teams are underperfoming, it's because they've scored the most goals in the Premier League.

Until Mourinho accepts that the way to win the league is to score more goals than the opponent he won't get anywhere. His defensive tactics he relied upon for the past ten years don't work anymore. What else can he give us except stability??? It's clear what is the best way forward for our club.

I don't have a problem with you, why?

Because you're reasoning, not just throwing insults on their way.

I said it multiple times, we haven't simply been good enough so far.

What do you want?

Thinking it would be best for both parties, if Mourinho resigns himself from the job and let us alone with this mess,

or keep fighting and cleaning it up by himself and us giving him a hand?

I prefer fighting, it has always been the spirit with this club; against all odds! At least in my point of view.

Personally speaking, i don't have much respect for a guy like Lucien Favre, who in my point of view let his team and club

down big time. We'll see how it goes in the upcoming years for them.

Can you simply reduce Mourinho to "defensive motivational skills"?

Xavi Hernandez said some time ago, Mourinho hasn't always been all about the defensive approach,

last season backed it up, i think.

During the time of Eto'o we had some nice interplay between him and Hazard, who is mainly responsible for this?

Scoring one goal more than the opponent is an adventurous way to carry it out, what exactly did Mourinho do in Madrid?

So i disagree with you that you can put Mourinho into one corner and say he has been this (defensive) way for about 10 years.

He knows the Barca school and clearly likes some parts of it, imo.

What's stability?

In my point of view, having the same manager and most guys for some time around, not always looking for the next toy to buy.

Especially relying on the same (proven) manager, because you win some, you lose some, that's what football is about, imo.

Yes, bad season, but before shit hits the fan, we were top of the league since day one, before that, we played the semis against

(at that time) best team in Spain.

2 years, i felt more or less invincible, merged, great fuckin' atmosphere and spirit in and around the club,

so yes, i give Mourinho the benefit of a doubt.

It's like having problems with your girlfriend: the first 2 years were unbelievable great, you could score whenever you want and the understanding was growing, but after that things get tough.

A lot of your friends have more beautiful ones, they tell you to get a new one.

But you stick it out and both parties keep working on their mistakes, in the long run,

the bond is only getting stronger and stronger.

A new girl doesn't know jack shit about that, staying when things get tough and make compromises, that' what life is all about, imo.

Otherwise you haven't lived life to the fullest, imo.

Ranieri:

His team has been playing superbly, he is truly doing things right.

But it's not always been this way, he had worse times too, one should never forget that.

The mocking by the tabloids didn't appear out of thin air!

At the moment, they are playing a lot better that Chelsea, i have to give them that.

It's really all about money?

One can buy great things with money, but money doesn't buy you success, it's only a tool, imo.

It's like kids having rich parents, it doesn't necessarily mean, they are going to be as successful as their parents.

I have a friend who failed more than once in College, but he's always standing up, never giving up on his dreams.

That you can't buy and it seems that as Fabregas said the failures getting under the skin of some players.

The manager can only show you the door, you have to go through by yourself.

Perhaps we disagree, but i don't think that the players want Mourinho out, it's not as simple as that.

Long story short: Chelsea should doing better, but there are different periods and just because of money it's impossible to demand always top class footie.

For me the judge is still out, keep losing till January, then we should have another talk, but for me we need more attempts for now.

Try harder should be the motto, i think we'll bang them in, because the chances are already there for the taking.

Competition:

I think the competition within the league has never been this strong before.

Former top teams are dropping points like flies, is there any team who is on a similar run as Leicester?

The Premier-League lives in its own world, total balanced, the money what United spent over the years, has had less impact.

That's fuckin' great, everyone can beat everyone, that's the way it should be, imo.

Final words:

As i said before, your behaviour has been exemplary, you showed me yours, i showed you mine, acting like adults.

We disagree, in the past, i didn't believe in Torres and made some childish points in other communities, but then i matured.

I questioned Di Matteo's managerial abilities, his time at Schalke 04 didn't get my hopes up, he isn't a maker, imo.

For me Jose Mourinho is a different case, he's not only a Chelsea man through and through,

he has the necessary skill-set to see us through. He is our Sir Alex Ferguson and that has to count for something, imo.

Your opinion differs, but that doesn't meant that we can't stand side by side in the stand, either way, life continues.

My only hope is that the schadenfreude around here doesn't continue to stay sky-high, it would be really sad when he loses his job.

At least give him that.