The Mourinho Thread

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Why the FA didn't charge Wenger for his comments after the chelsea game?

[kmk108 1,186]

If this is the case, why fire any manager at all? Couldn't the same apply to every single manager that's ever been sacked due to poor performance in the history of football?

Again, it's not blame the players or blame the manager. There's plenty of blame to go around. Still, Mourinho can't put the ball into the net. He can't keep the ball out of our net. That's up to the players and they're not doing their job.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Why the FA didn't charge Wenger for his comments after the chelsea game?

#BunchofTwats

[Pizy 18,909]

I don't know if you're saying he blames Ancelotti or not, because I haven't seen him say that (but I haven't been following your conversation). He doesn't say Mourinho isn't to blame. He says the players deserve more blame. There's a difference. It's not black and white.

Precisely. Mourinho is to blame for putting Ivanovic out there time and time again and continuing with Cesc when he's clearly hurting more than helping. His man-management hasn't been great either when he readily drops players like JT and Matić yet refuses to drop Iva. His stubbornness and unwillingness to play Baba Rahman (like Luis last season) is maddening.

But how can people blame him for the form Hazard, Costa, Matic, Fabregas, Ivanovic, Terry, and Cahill are in? Have they all conspired together to collectively play poorly because they hate his tactics? They didn't have a problem with them last season.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/10/5/9449017/on-jose-mourinho-and-the-perils-of-player-power

This.

[kmk108 1,186]

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/10/5/9449017/on-jose-mourinho-and-the-perils-of-player-power

This.

However, there's another, perhaps even more important reason why the JoseOut campaign is a foolish one, and thats the message it sends: That the players can escape the consequences for their failings.

[Stats 7,142]

Of course Jose won't be sacked! This mess isn't his fault! He is the best manager on the planet, hopefully the plastics will pipe down now! Jose and the players will turn this around and the clueless people who have been embarrassing themselves having meltdowns will be left feeling very stupid.

What an utter embarrassing post. I know Jason already replied to this message and warned you to not make posts like this but seriously are you actually taking the piss and claiming people do not have a valid reason for not wanting Jose out? After the Southampton match I said for the first time that I think it is time for him to go and that was not knee-jerk. It was based on a lot of things. However on the poll I voted as 'undecided' as I was not sure who is a better alternative at the moment. But how the fuck can you call people plastic when there is clearly valid reasons peoplle have gave for wanting him out. Maybe you are plastic for sucking up to Mourinho so much. Is that a fair conclusion?

Because short term he has always been a success, long term he has not and that is the question mark around whether it is heading the same direction here.

Most fans on his forum, including me were supporters of this club way before Jose came and we all want what is best for the club. Mourinho has done a lot for the club but he is not bigger than the club and even if left, we would move on. It is not the end of the world. What utter bullshit. You actually think people are clueless who have given reasons for wanting Mourinho out? How fuckin disrespectful. Majority of reasons I have seen for wanting Mourinho out is valid and fair. What if the poor form continues and shows no progress as it has been so far? We should just stick with him just because he has proven achievements.

We are effectively out of the title race with only 8 games played and that is not good enough.

You want Mourinho to stay.That is fine. Those who want Mourinho out are entitled to that opinion as well. Other managers have been sacked for worse form than this and Abramovich himself has sacked managers for much worse form. So was he plastic for doing that? We are 16th place right now and while the players have been poor, Mourinho is responsible for a lot of it. EG constantly picking underperforming players has cost us and in the end of the day a total lack of ideas with what the team is doing when they are playing ultimately has to lie with Mourinho as well. He is the manager.

[Laylabelle 9,535]

Just dont see who can get if did sack him anyway.time to improve and they sodding well all need to players and management

[Fulham Broadway 17,313]

Hes been charged by the FA now for post Saints comments about refs

....but it was fine for Wenger to slag off the ref after we beat them

[Vytis33 1,270]

The FA should just set up an office at Cobham already.

[bluephoenix 1,131]

Hes been charged by the FA now for post Saints comments about refs

....but it was fine for Wenger to slag off the ref after we beat them

Pretty much sums our season so far, unlucky. Anti-Chelsea campaign.

[Fulham Broadway 17,313]

Pretty much sums our season so far, unlucky. Anti-Chelsea campaign.

It is. When things have settled down, one day, I would love us to take the FA to court

[BlueLyon 9,359]

While Im happy board is behind him, I will keep it simple;

If players are behind him, he has to stay. The day the dressing room is against him, he should leave. He is great manager, created biggest part of our history, and he will never be forgotten, but if things go south, the best is to move on. For him, the players and club.

[Laylabelle 9,535]

The whole thing annoying.if ref didn't make mistakes wouldn't be critised.daft can't be to a point.This time was a bit urgh uncalled for but when it is a valid point

[Ollie 4,400]

Maybe he should just shut up sometimes and be honest. Falcao dived, it was no way a penalty. We're playing awful football and he's clearly upsetting a lot of people. He needs to dust himself down with his players and start again. We're heading for mid table.

[Henrique 9,133]

Really lazy to come up with "player power" at this stage.

[Stats 7,142]

Again, this is where he lets us down. He is talking about it is important to stick together yet he makes daft comments which means he probably will end up being banned from the touchline and being separated from the team. The worse thing is that Falcao clearly dived while Southampton should of had 2 clear penalties so why is he even complaining?

[robsblubot 3,595]

I wish he had replaced fabregas and ivanovic because I am confident that the results would have been the same or worse.

Because the evidence says that one or two player tweaks doesn't make that much of a difference: like I said before Mikel played instead and alongside Matic and guess what the results were? Terry played and was left out without much of a difference really.

We have our own preferences and dislikes, but if you don't see tha the problems go Beyond team selection, then imo you don't know why we are losing which partly explains the hate against Jose.

Fans tend to believe in the quick short term fix: fix the confidence... Replace the manager... Sub this or that player... It's never that simple.

We are in a deficit compared to almost all the other teams in the pl and cl. We are slower, weaker, and less sharp. That's what we have to fix first.

Unfortunately it's s lot easier said than done.

[Muzchap 8,966]

It is. When things have settled down, one day, I would love us to take the FA to court

Mate - C'mon seriously - I normally agree with you 100%, but this is Jose's own fault - he knows the rules, he knows the FA are hot on punishing him and he blamed the referee for the failure! Which on closer analysis was complete and utter bollocks as Southampton could have had 2 penalties.

The reason Wenger gets away with it - is because he doesn't launch into a 7 minute rant.

Fergie had the same problem - the trouble for Mourinho is all the bullshit that's come before is ever present and the FA like nothing better than him opening his mouth - why? Because it equals pay day for them - another £60k in the bank!

Mourinho needs to smarten up and not be so sloppy in front of the cameras - if he had ACTUALLY told the truth - that his shit man management and team selection where to blame - he would not be getting charged. However, he palmed his failure off onto the referree - amateur mistake from a seemingly amateur (of late) manager... Some might call it Karma

[manpe 10,861]

He knew he was getting punished long before he opened his mouth. That rant wasn't improvised but thought out before the final whistle blew, you could see and hear it. It is what he was willing to sacrifice in order to speak out what he believed to be the truth. It's pointless to bring Wenger or other examples to this situation. It was no surprise to him, Chelsea Football Club, and it certainly shouldn't be a surprise to us. He took one for the team(?) and is now paying for it, which in essence is kinda fucked up, but still nothing new to us and nothing to rage over. I knew immediately when he mentioned the referees that it would end with a charge, but amidst all the screw ups I thought this was the least important.