The Mourinho Thread

[killer1257 3,282]

When is Jose´s next press conference?

[lucio 5,418]

He never got enough chances. When he did step in he done well. And with more game time he would have developed. I remember Bellerin got subbed off for Arsenal at H/T last season when they were 3-0 down to Stoke and it must of been a big confidence knock for him. Did Arsenal just leave him out to dry and send him out on countless loans? No, they realised he was a work in progress and kept faith in him. Look now. We should really try doing the same with ours. Especially when we have top English talents like that, we just get rid. Confuses the shit out of me. Bertrand would get much more praise if he was playing regularly at us instead of Southampton.

He got over 50 appearances though. Other youngsters can't say that.

[lucio 5,418]

If we play like we did 2nd half yday then of course we can beat Southampton.

Southampton are 10x the team Newcastle are. And our 2nd half consisted of un threatening dominance , until a random shot flew in.

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

When is Jose´s next press conference?

Tomorrow, Before Porto?...

[coolhead23 1,147]

I am talking about Felipe Luis not David Luiz just to be clear..

And I should've checked how much we got Luis for because I was a little confused with the £50 mil.

Bloody ****!

Sincere Apologies, mate ... *embarrassing*

I agree handling of Luis was disappointing indeed.

[Tomo 21,751]

first things first, lets clear the misconceptions you have about moses. he played for a whole of 847 minutes for liverpool. they were not in any european competitions. got knocked out in the first matches of both the domestic cups.

now lets come back to the point of second half of the season - from match day 20 to matchday 38, he played a total of 69 minutes. but kudos to judging him on that. and if you dont believe me, here are the stats. http://www.transfermarkt.com/victor-moses/leistungsdaten/spieler/59866/plus/?saison=2013

yes, that is a weakness. but can bertand cross? can bertrand defend 1v1 situations? can bertrand not get dribbled past multiple times in a match. overall, is bertrand defensively good. the answer is yes.

FaCup ? And in sure the 3-5-2 was ditched long before Christmas after trey lost at The Emirates but I could be wrong.

When I saw him at Pool u wasn't impressed at all and along with almost every Liverpool fan saying he was shocking doesn't bode well, you cite the lack of minutes, well it was enough for us to write off Cuadrado.

And with Bertrand, imho I think he is good at containing fast wingers on the most part like say Navas, but struggles against tricky players like Willian, I'm not saying he is a bad player, far from it, but he isn't this flawless defensively that is often portrayed.

[laura90 556]

When looking for a culprit Jose needs to take a good look in the mirror. It was his rash sales, biased favoring, weird tactics, alienating players, no rotation that made our squad what it is now.

Jose is now facing consequences of team selections based on reputation and past accomplishments rather than current form and meritocracy. When players can be certain that no matter how they perform they will play in the next important game complacency sets in as we are seeing.

The opposite also applies when squad players giving 100% only to come to a realization that no matter how hard they try, how well they play they cannot displace underperforming untouchables they lose interest, focus and they start thinking of their way out.When I'm at it, how pointless most of his transfers have been?

I'm not sure board gave him awfull lot of money, but he got enough funds to play decent football and keep us in the top four. That's consistency, isn't it?

That stellar pressing football team used to play during good times demands two things: big squad and rotation. Former have been sistematically ruined later virtually non exsistent.

And now the reilable first 11 from last year quite often look like shadows of their former selves.

But than again I may be a Chelsea hater cause I refused to see last season wins and trophies as a justification for mediocre football, unimaginative tactics and everything mentioned above.

[BlueStorm1003 539]

We are lost in the comfort zone. The way in which Jose just refuses do drop underperforming players shows both his stubbornness and how lazy our main player have become, knowing they will not get dropped. The way in which Iva still gets into the starting line up worries me. Our worst player so far without a doubt. Fabregas clearly stopped caring after winning the title, and Costa has clearly lost his predator sense.

I still think Matic looks worse because of Cesc not helping much in defensive work, but he is a shadow of the beast of a defensive midfielder he was last season.

These are some examples that how that we need changes in how we affront the games. We can´t keep playing like shit, expecting to win the games regardless of what we do like in the last months of the past season. Jose is not the only one to blame here, but hell does he get a big part of it. We need to make use of our youngsters more, and we need to show our "stars" that if they don´t do well, it´s the bench for them.

We are not helpless, we are not in a crisis that will leave us in the mid table. It´s the start of the season, and we are few points off from the top. Now it all depends on Jose and the players. Both sides have to look at themselves and make changes accordingly. I understand why some people are asking for Jose´s head, but I strongly believe that the best we can do right now is show them support. Yes, we have to show them that we are unhappy about the situation, but we have to put ourselves behind the lads. The last thing they need is another reason to lose more confidence.

[Peace. 4,352]

Never said they didn't get it. It's just they got it less than Mourinho. At least some of the blame was put on the squad last time. Now, there's hardly any with the exception of 2-3 players.

I refuse to believe one second that Mourinho is getting more stick than Benitez. That is a ludicrous thing to assume. We asked for the spaniard's head even before his first game, and the general consensus throughout his stint was the eagerness to see him fuck off of this club. There were a few people that assessed him impartially, though the vast majority — including myself — was ready to throw him under the bus at any occasion. Whatever could happen, it was because of Benitez. You can also compare the Terry situation. When Benitez benched him, it was a national drama. When Mourinho does it, there is barealy any discussion regarding it.

Even though people were rather complacent with Villas-Boas at first, as soon as Lampard started his act, people were calling him a fraud. And I do well remember that we were only a few to defend AVB on this forum. As for the players... When AVB decided to get rid of those who were not "bad" elements, people unilaterally destroyed him because he casted away poor Anelka, Alex and Kalou.. There were players that were criticized, such as Bosingwa, Torres, Mereiles, (Drogba ?), though nothing special.

As for the actual situation, don't tell me that only Mourinho gets the stick. And no it is not only the usual suspects that get criticized; Actually, two third of them are not criticized right now, namely Ramires and Cahill... Overall, people desperately hope Ivanovic gets his fifth yellow card to be suspended... People are sick of Fabregas... People are acknowledging that Matic is significantly below the standard he set when we bough him back... People are worried about Hazard being a ghost of himself... People are labelling Falcao the second Torres... People are acknowledging that Remy is not all that... People are frustrated regarding Costa's production... People are as well frustrated regarding Willian... And Oscar... People are claiming that Terry might be hindering us (regarding the proactive defense, at least)... etc... People are also aware that the squad is not good enough as well as our starting eleven. Yes, our squad is also criticized ; a lot. Yes, our players are individually criticized ; a lot.

Actually, the situation is exactly the same as it was with Ancelotti, Benitez, Villas-Boas and di Matteo ; i.e. the manager is criticized and his players as well. The only difference is that maybe... maybe there is a bigger amount of comments criticizing Mourinho... But there is also a lot of posts claiming people that dare to criticize Mourinho are not true fans and so on... And even if Mourinho is more criticized than the others, that is logical. He is after all the self appointed "Special One" ; he is the guy that only improves year after year. He is considered the best coach in the world... It is kinda logical to criticize more heavely the best coach for a poor job than the not so good one...

The bottom line is that Mourinho is not criticized more than the players — the pooor boy —, that is just a fallacy. Players also get their fair share of stick ffs;..

[Muzchap 8,966]

Now i understand your frustrations with performances and more importantly results but to say we are in danger of missing out on the top 4 is ludicrous. We are 5 points behind with 31 games still to play....

I know it seems far fetched - but we are not moving forwards - we are relying on other teams being as shit as us.

City should win the league

United look a good candidate for challenging (who'd have thought)

Arsenal will be there or there abouts

That leaves us, Pool, Spuds and some other teams to battle it out.

Let's be fair we only beat Arsenal because of the man power difference. So we have only actually beaten West Brom in the league - let that sink in. We will have some tough games coming up and we have already lost ground - what are you seeing with the current team that convinces you will will be able to make it?

I'm really not convinced without a massive overhaul of personnel, formation and tactics.

[cfcs most wanted 657]

I want to see that Old Mourinho, that would celebrate each goal and not to see his grim unenthusiastic face each day. What has happened to this guy???

[Fulham Broadway 17,346]

I think four of the players have had kids recently. Theres obviously too much shagging or nagging going on.

Bottom line is they and Mourinho are human, not constant winning machines. Newcastle are just one of several teams that play like its their CL final when they play us since 2005.

The sense of entitlement here is ridiculous.

[cfcs most wanted 657]

I think four of the players have had kids recently. Theres obviously too much shagging or nagging going on.

Bottom line is they and Mourinho are human, not constant winning machines. Newcastle are just one of several teams that play like its their CL final when they play us since 2005.

The sense of entitlement here is ridiculous.

Bayern wins the league every time, reaches the semifinal of UCL each time, why can't we??? We are in the top 4 European sides still and we should constantly perform to prove that

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

I think four of the players have had kids recently. Theres obviously too much shagging or nagging going on.

Bottom line is they and Mourinho are human, not constant winning machines. Newcastle are just one of several teams that play like its their CL final when they play us since 2005.

The sense of entitlement here is ridiculous.

No.

We Just play like a relegation zone team against team... watch the first half. it's our fault.

[Essien19 1,415]

You're either knee deep in water and staring at the pyramids (De-Nile) or are seeing something completely different to me

We have a disagreement, that may not be exactly nice, but that happens in life.

So how long are you prepared to give him?

After the 7th matchday being the number 15th in the table isn't nice, neither is losing to some mid-table teams, but there will come enough opportunities to balance the score, 5 points to Arsenal or 8 points to United means little.

The history speaks for themselves, United doesn't have a Ferguson who doesn't bottle it nor "El Ingeniero" is a master tactician.

Last year City occasionally came back, the difference isn't the end of the world yet.

We'll see, but they can't hold onto their current position until may.

The season will end in may, 93 points are there for the taking, you win some, you lose some, judge at the end of the season or

when we are bottom of the league in december, but that's clearly not happening.

I see that Jurgen Klopp has a high appreciation, last year he finished the first spell of the season as the number 17th,

the club showed faith and look at what happened, hire and fire isn't that good for a project longterm.

Are you happy with our performances since Jan?

I had my complains about some perfomances during the second spell of the season 2014/2015, but the boys got the job done and overall they were crowded as one of the most dominant teams in english history, no team could cope with us, big bulldozer!

Wenger, Pellegrini, Van Gaal and all the other managers and fans would have jerked off to that dream come true, only here some guys are too greedy.

As Mourinho said, every team gives more against the current champion, all of them would like to teach us a lesson.

How many teams/coaches have defended the championship apart from Sir Manchester United/Alex Ferguson in recent history?

All of our opponents took the game by the balls, especially Swansea, Crystal Palace and Newcastle United once again suprised me.

They gave everything and earned their money!

Are you happy that we drew with the worst team in the league?

They run riot against us, gave their everything and we went 2 down.

They didn't play like their position could suggest, they participate in the league and have quality.

The first half was shambolic, but we are the current champions and came back, after Fabregas magical pass (finally....)

Pedro should have scored from that and the mission three points would have been accomplished!

Sadly, he missed, now we are having this disussion, that's life, that's football, people have to deal with it.

Do you really think that i am happy?

No, there were lots of problems, but what do you want to hear?

That i criticise individual players and call for a big shift, Mourinho gave some players chances, but it wasn't that great,

now call for a beheading and cry like a bitch, when the big russian guy isn't that quick?!

No, i don't do that, the team has to analyze their mistakes and next time, we will be better.

The calm people always win the freaggin' war, stay calm and let the professionals do their jobs.

There must be a new form of amnesia out there; we know what we are, current champions of england, let that sink in!

Mourinho is no Harry Potter and able to pull out his ward so we suddenly fuck them up, improvement goes match by match.

Therefore we need faith, but after 7th matches, it's all gone, what can i do, what can i say to that?!

Don't know and slowly don't care!

Are you happy that squad rotation does not exist?

Kenedy, Traore, Loftus-Cheek, Zouma, Remy, Falcao, Willian, Mikel, Ramires, Baba and so on, all of them were rewarded playing time!

Nowadays i read how good this Ramires dude is and maybe a double pivot with Mikel or Loftus-Cheek should be the solution.

After one bad game, would i instantly change my formations?

Sadly i am stupid enough to change quickly while playing fantasy football league, i have to learn from my mistakes!

Luckily Mourinho isn't that stupid. Maybe now, when Baba is fully fit, he can play more, Loftus-Cheek is also an option, but that's it.

In the past i have read that Mr. Ancelotti would be a perfect fit, (that's not necessarily for you Muzchap...)

Really?! That dude didn't allow Raphael Varane much playing time, other prospects were non existent and only there for backups,

that should speak volumes, i leave you guys there...

Are you happy that Ivanovic starts every game?

I would have kept Filipe Luis and gave him more playing time, but Mourinho didn't trust him enough.

Baba wasn't match fit to start for Chelsea, he was new to the country, Mourinho is not a magician, someone had to play and Ivanovic is still better than all of us. If someone thinks otherwise, feel free to submit an application, i wish you luck, you gonna need it!

Calling for Ivanovics head is popular, you will earn a lot of likes, but you have to think rationally, we don't have a better alternative!

Are you happy that Chelsea are constantly embarrassed by Mou's antics?

Mourinho has defended Chelsea more than any manager in the recent years, the phrase "one of us" doesn't come from nothing.

Did i like his recent fight with Mr. and Mrs. Benitez?

No, he stepped over the line, but that happens in the heat of the moment!

The disaster with Ms. Carneiro could have been avoided, but both are adults and acted way out of line.

I wish her all the best, some guys on bluemoon would welcome her, do it, i have no problem.

But that's enough, otherwise i don't have a problem with our head coach.

Of course Mourinho doesn't throw individual people under the bus, they are going to be benched, but only if there is a reasonable replacement!

Calling Mr. Wenger a "specialist in failure" and beating him in his 1000 game in charge with 6:0 is classic Jose.

In my view that's harsh, but fairplay, he took him out!

Jose Mourinho isn't here to play nice and make friends, he is here to win, that's all what matters. The winner takes it all!

As i stated before, for me it's not the right time for pulling the plugg.

I can only speak for myself, but even if he doesn't win a title, he should stay!

He is a serial winner, that should mean something!

How do you know we aren't? After all this is the first time in over 20 years this is happening to us, zero signs of improvement, zero signs Mourinho isn't going to drop his favs!

And ask yourself, why. Why is TC depressing around here? Is it because of our woeful performances? Is it because Mourinho's refusal to drop certain repeating offenders? Is it because Mourinho doesn't trust RLC and co? Is it because we are having the worst run any Chelsea fan has seen for over 20 years? Is it because of the bad transfer window? And lastly, is it because of the BAD results we are getting?

"B--but! We drew at SJP!" Newcastle are our bogey side but come on! I'm sorry, but it seems that even if Newcastle were down to 8 men, we still couldn't beat them. We are suppose to beat Newcastle easily. They drew with United because United were still playing with their new toys. And drawing at SJP is just a small positive surrounding a lot of negatives that happened yesterday.

And thanks but, I'll stay and talk in TC when I want to.

Fairplay to you, i didn't watch Chelsea twenty years ago.

Does Mourinho make mistakes and questionable things?

I am with you, but neither of us is Mr. Perfect.

I didn't say that you are not allowed to share your thoughts with the community, i am only surprised how the mood has changed,

hardly any positive thing to say or comprehensive solution, it's all about the same things, time and time again.

It's all speculation, but i can't see that without Fabregas, Hazard, Costa and so on the others would step up, Mourinho let Kenedys play but that wasn't that big revelation to me, yeah, not bad, but for me not better than the "Stars".

[Muzchap 8,966]

We have a disagreement, that may not be exactly nice, but that happens in life.

After the 7th matchday being the number 15th in the table isn't nice, neither is losing to some mid-table teams, but there will come enough opportunities to balance the score, 5 points to Arsenal or 8 points to United means little.

The history speaks for themselves, United doesn't have a Ferguson who doesn't bottle it nor "El Ingeniero" is a master tactician.

Last year City occasionally came back, the difference isn't the end of the world yet.

We'll see, but they can't hold onto their current position until may.

The season will end in may, 93 points are there for the taking, you win some, you lose some, judge at the end of the season or

when we are bottom of the league in december, but that's clearly not happening.

I see that Jurgen Klopp has a high appreciation, last year he finished the first spell of the season as the number 17th,

the club showed faith and look at what happened, hire and fire isn't that good for a project longterm.

I had my complains about some perfomances during the second spell of the season 2014/2015, but the boys got the job done and overall they were crowded as one of the most dominant teams in english history, no team could cope with us, big bulldozer!

Wenger, Pellegrini, Van Gaal and all the other managers and fans would have jerked off to that dream come true, only here some guys are too greedy.

As Mourinho said, every team gives more against the current champion, all of them would like to teach us a lesson.

How many teams/coaches have defended the championship apart from Sir Manchester United/Alex Ferguson in recent history?

All of our opponents took the game by the balls, especially Swansea, Crystal Palace and Newcastle United once again suprised me.

They gave everything and earned their money!

They run riot against us, gave their everything and we went 2 down.

They didn't play like their position could suggest, they participate in the league and have quality.

The first half was shambolic, but we are the current champions and came back, after Fabregas magical pass (finally....)

Pedro should have scored from that and the mission three points would have been accomplished!

Sadly, he missed, now we are having this disussion, that's life, that's football, people have to deal with it.

Do you really think that i am happy?

No, there were lots of problems, but what do you want to hear?

That i criticise individual players and call for a big shift, Mourinho gave some players chances, but it wasn't that great,

now call for a beheading and cry like a bitch, when the big russian guy isn't that quick?!

No, i don't do that, the team has to analyze their mistakes and next time, we will be better.

The calm people always win the freaggin' war, stay calm and let the professionals do their jobs.

There must be a new form of amnesia out there; we know what we are, current champions of england, let that sink in!

Mourinho is no Harry Potter and able to pull out his ward so we suddenly fuck them up, improvement goes match by match.

Therefore we need faith, but after 7th matches, it's all gone, what can i do, what can i say to that?!

Don't know and slowly don't care!

Kenedy, Traore, Loftus-Cheek, Zouma, Remy, Falcao, Willian, Mikel, Ramires, Baba and so on, all of them were rewarded playing time!

Nowadays i read how good this Ramires dude is and maybe a double pivot with Mikel or Loftus-Cheek should be the solution.

After one bad game, would i instantly change my formations?

Sadly i am stupid enough to change quickly while playing fantasy football league, i have to learn from my mistakes!

Luckily Mourinho isn't that stupid. Maybe now, when Baba is fully fit, he can play more, Loftus-Cheek is also an option, but that's it.

In the past i have read that Mr. Ancelotti would be a perfect fit, (that's not necessarily for you Muzchap...)

Really?! That dude didn't allow Raphael Varane much playing time, other prospects were non existent and only there for backups,

that should speak volumes, i leave you guys there...

I would have kept Filipe Luis and gave him more playing time, but Mourinho didn't trust him enough.

Baba wasn't match fit to start for Chelsea, he was new to the country, Mourinho is not a magician, someone had to play and Ivanovic is still better than all of us. If someone thinks otherwise, feel free to submit an application, i wish you luck, you gonna need it!

Calling for Ivanovics head is popular, you will earn a lot of likes, but you have to think rationally, we don't have a better alternative!

Mourinho has defended Chelsea more than any manager in the recent years, the phrase "one of us" doesn't come from nothing.

Did i like his recent fight with Mr. and Mrs. Benitez?

No, he stepped over the line, but that happens in the heat of the moment!

The disaster with Ms. Carneiro could have been avoided, but both are adults and acted way out of line.

I wish her all the best, some guys on bluemoon would welcome her, do it, i have no problem.

But that's enough, otherwise i don't have a problem with our head coach.

Of course Mourinho doesn't throw individual people under the bus, they are going to be benched, but only if there is a reasonable replacement!

Calling Mr. Wenger a "specialist in failure" and beating him in his 1000 game in charge with 6:0 is classic Jose.

In my view that's harsh, but fairplay, he took him out!

Jose Mourinho isn't here to play nice and make friends, he is here to win, that's all what matters. The winner takes it all!

As i stated before, for me it's not the right time for pulling the plugg.

I can only speak for myself, but even if he doesn't win a title, he should stay!

He is a serial winner, that should mean something!

Fairplay to you, i didn't watch Chelsea twenty years ago.

Does Mourinho make mistakes and questionable things?

I am with you, but neither of us is Mr. Perfect.

I didn't say that you are not allowed to share your thoughts with the community, i am only surprised how the mood has changed,

hardly any positive thing to say or comprehensive solution, it's all about the same things, time and time again.

It's all speculation, but i can't see that without Fabregas, Hazard, Costa and so on the others would step up, Mourinho let Kenedys play but that wasn't that big revelation to me, yeah, not bad, but for me not better than the "Stars".

Really enjoyed reading your post - I seem to have run out of likes at the moment

I absolutely get and appreciate where you are coming from. Trust me - I would normally be the one making your arguments

But - something inside me has snapped and it cannot be repaired. I no longer believe Mourinho is the right man for this club.

Trust me - I hate feeling this way - it's conflicted, all I ever wanted was Mou back, but now I can't stand seeing his face as the face of Chelsea - it makes me cringe and die a little inside when I see him acting a twat in press conferences.

I just want a rational normal manager - who is prepared to be adaptable and take risks.

Yes - changing things randomly does not work - I get that - I love maths but the longer it continues not changing the balance of probability for success actually reduces. I'm not asking for wholesale changes - just play the players in form. I'm happy to accept the odd loss here and there as players bed in. As they will be gaining valuable experience.

If the team goes out and gives 100% and looses - that's fair! What I can't stand s our awful current performances where flukes and/or players being sent off is the only reason for picking up points.

Our total lack of desire, passion and chemistry is what really angers me it's like a team of strangers! I never saw a UTD title winning team act like this!!!

Which leads me to believe there are problems behind the scene...

[Fulham Broadway 17,346]

No.

We Just play like a relegation zone team against team... watch the first half. it's our fault.

Chels are invariably shit first half then Mourinho gives them a rocket up the arse at half time. Newcastle, west brom, villa amongst others always raise their game against us. I am not going to be a moaning, negative spoilt fucker about this, watched Chelsea for too long.

[Fulham Broadway 17,346]

Bayern wins the league every time, reaches the semifinal of UCL each time, why can't we??? We are in the top 4 European sides still and we should constantly perform to prove that

It would be nice wouldnt it ? Unfortunately this is Chelsea we are talking about. Surely Chelsea being the only English team to win their last group game must warm the cockles of your heart ? Bayern wouldnt be so successful with Arsenal, Man Utd, Man City, and wet Stoke aways in the Bundesligue.

Chin up, and KTBFFH old chap !

[quickpassnmove 924]

bunch of nonsense discussion. Chelsea need a next manager, the kind that AVB was supposed to be.

this league is moving forward and it looks to me that Chelsea don't know what they're doing (although the same can be said for clubs like Newcastle and Sunderland).

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Chels are invariably shit first half then Mourinho gives them a rocket up the arse at half time. Newcastle, west brom, villa amongst others always raise their game against us. I am not going to be a moaning, negative spoilt fucker about this, watched Chelsea for too long.

And what those teams do to United, Arsenal, City and Liverpool ? Genuine question.

Let's say West Brom, team that raises their level every time we play them, apparently. XXI century 2002-2011 11 encounters, 11 wins in the row for Chelsea. This is our bogey team ? When you play with zero intensity and aggression and you're too soft you will suffer, it's normal. That's why we lost 3, drew 1 and won 1 against them at their place since 2012. IMO all blame is on Chelsea if they can't beat such team.

I don't believe in bogey teams, sorry. Newcastle is no exception.