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set the precedent that the manager can keep on choosing the same under-performing players match after match no matter what?

Who else does he pick? Virtually everyone of them is currently garbage. I can get down with the the argument of dropping Ivan and so on, but given José's very telling post match interview today I suspect he's trying to keep those who he trusts in the squad.

Regardless, people seem all too keen to forget that this is a rare rough patch in the otherwise exceptional career of José Mourinho. He's proved he's capable more often than not, why sack him after a poor spell when history suggests he's likely to recover?

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Would rather see the club side with the manager and let any player who has taken the hump know they are welcome to leave.

Most people on here who want José out are the same who constantly talk about stability. Stability is not sacking your manager when the players take the hump. Stability is letting them know that you answer to the man in charge -- who also just happens to be one of the most highly decorated coaches in the games history.

Set the precedent and finally try and curb the managerial merry go round once and for all.

Stability and long term vision has to come from both sides. Picking fights with your own staff is not a sign of stability. Signing players like falcao, relying on players like Ivanovic and failing (so far) to introduce players like Baba and Djilobodji is not a sign of long term vision. Relying on an agressive 'us-against-them' attitiude to motivate your players is not a sign of stabilty. Humiliating your own players like he did with Matic today is not a sign of stability. Talking like you're bigger than the club and daring the board to sack you is not a sign of stabilty.

For the record, in no way do i believe that the players are blameless in all of this. No matter who'se the manager above you, even if they are called Moyes, performances like these are unacceptable.

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That's the thing. There are only a couple of candidates out there with the clout, respect, and most importantly the skill to take over from Mourinho.

It's too risky to sack him unless it's for Klopp or Pep. Managers that are zero risk themselves.

And Kloop oversaw an even worse run last season with Dortmund.

I don't think any manager is immune to a shitstorm run of form like this, every single one has pros and cons.

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Ultimately, there's only one manager that will probably take this job right now and he would probably say something along the lines off "Chelsea is a triffic team with great players".

Jose needs to pull his finger out, but sacking him? Will you take the risk?

I guess i am the only person on this planet that likes ol' 'Arry Redknapp
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Who else does he pick? Virtually everyone of them is currently garbage. I can get down with the the argument of dropping Ivan and so on, but given José's very telling post match interview today I suspect he's trying to keep those who he trusts in the squad.

Regardless, people seem all too keen to forget that this is a rare rough patch in the otherwise exceptional career of José Mourinho. He's proved he's capable more often than not, why sack him after a poor spell when history suggests he's likely to recover?

so we spent 21 mil on garbage. jose's decision

we sold bertrand - who was someone jose did not trust and was garbage too

we sold luis - who was someone jose did not trust and was garbage too.

great, so he can literally have just 11 players that he trusts and play them match after match irrespective of form.

i dont think history proves anything here. this is a new territory for jose. unventured. he has never been entrusted with integrating youth to the extent we want him to. and he is failing miserably. he cant even trust players like baba to replace the worst player in PL currently. sorry, but considering the amount of talent we have, and considering jose's lack of trust in youth, he is hardly the guy to go forward with.

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Starting Ivanovic each and every match is hilariously dumb. Complaining about a penalty in this match, after they should have had a much more obvious one, where Ramires kicked down one of their players (forgot who) is just pathetic.

But no, I don't want Mourinho sacked either. But his explanations are embarrassing right now.

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so we spent 21 mil on garbage. jose's decision

we sold bertrand - who was someone jose did not trust and was garbage too

we sold luis - who was someone jose did not trust and was garbage too.

great, so he can literally have just 11 players that he trusts and play them match after match irrespective of form.

i dont think history proves anything here. this is a new territory for jose. unventured. he has never been entrusted with integrating youth to the extent we want him to. and he is failing miserably. he cant even trust players like baba to replace the worst player in PL currently. sorry, but considering the amount of talent we have, and considering jose's lack of trust in youth, he is hardly the guy to go forward with.

What are you on about in that first paragraph? The whole squad is currently playing horribly. What have that list of players got to do with anything? The current crop weren't rubbish last season, poor at times, but not like this. So it seems to me like his hands are somewhat tied given that the lot of them seem poor.

I can't comment on Baba as I know nothing about him, it would be a sad state of affairs if he isn't good enough to get in to our defence, but I'm not on the training ground every day.

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It actually seems we're in free fall. Though I still believe that We will rise again with Mourinho (if not sacked before next game) or any other manager but if players like Terry ( though old but still our captain), Iva (vice captain), Cahill, Matic, Hazard, and/or Fabregas can't up their game then I don't think any one can change much for now.

Mourinho is already in meltdown considering his post match rant.

Personally I think something is not right with Mourinho at the moment. Like how he didn't play Zouma today knowing fully well how mane terrorised Terry last season with his pace. It's as if he was compelled to do so.

Also, I think Mourinho isn't as bullish as before. Old Mourinho was never afraid to bench any one even C.Ronaldo/Ashley Cole.

Even if he'll go down (if not sacked before next match), he should give other capable young players chance so that others would fight back for their shirt. I don't personally think that Kenedy will do worse than Hazard/Pedro ATM or do RLC/Ramires pairing.

Lastly, Sometimes sacking a manager does not mean all will be well even when it apparently seems so. I'm sure that if Mourinho were to be sacked today or tomorrow man of the fans here would be very happy but I still think he should be given till season's end.

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Jose was absolutely spot on when he said that this is a crucial moment in the club's history.

Mourinho is the greatest manager in the world, and if we can't achieve stability with him, then we will never achieve stability.

I think you can only achieve stability by having a manager who doesn't make a fool of himself, a manager who the team and the opponents respect. Jose has been on a decline as person ever since he won that Champions League with Inter back in 2010.

We could achieve stability by promoting a manager from within the club, whether that is Steve Holland or a youth coach I cannot tell. Klopp and the others all seem like short-term fixes and Jose seems like product which has passed its best before date a while ago. Thanks for everything Jose but it is time to say goodbye!

How about making Adi Viveash the new manager? At least he would know the potential that is buried in our academy.

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It's a good moment to sadk him. He has done what he can and clearly can offer no more. Just like his time in Madrid, he gave us a winning mentality and a platform to go on and become a big club. Now, we need a manager who can work with a top club for a long run, play their Football, and establish a good image of the club.

I'm happy about what he has done for us since he joined, but before circumstances get any hotter for the club and him, he needs to leave or get sacked.

Klopp, Emery, Pep, Garcia.

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Its really shame to call for manager head when the players are not performing. The thing is he is the best for this club, the most successful coach we have had and the same time is FAN of this club. This forum is moaning forum. every decision from the manager or the club always blla blla blla. WHY?

The board also should take the blame, they failed to bring our target during the summer.

Please be more serious and don't talk BS all the time (im not saying to you personally).

Let's support the club there is a lot of more matches to play and you never know what the future can bring us.

I can respect anyone's opinion if they want Mourinho to stay. But we have come at a point where I expect that the other side of the argument to be taken seriously as well. Yes Mourinho has brought us many successes and i am grateful for that. But you can't deny that he has made some major f*ckups these last couple of months and has thus at least contributed to the current crisis. Besides, even when things were going great for us, Mourinho just loved seeking the controversies. So neither he or anyone else should be surprised that when things go south, all of it comes back hitting him in the face like a boomerang. If anyone is looking for a culprit for all this criticism, they need only look at José himself.

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