The Tuchel Thread

[LegenTerry 273]

So...who are the candidates ? Potter, Poch and Ziozou ? 

[Strike 7,494]

I'm shocked - new owners, same recklessness. Thanks for the Champions League in that weird pandemic year and go well Tuchel.

 

[Bren 41]

Wow! Now we know the new owners aren't afraid to act quickly.

The players do it to another manager.

[Strike 7,494]

 

Matt Law report

- Sacking is not based purely on results or Chelsea’s poor start to the season.

- Sources say Tuchel lost the faith of players, who were surprised to be played out of position, left out

- Anthony Barry is likely to take temporary charge

- Apart from Potter, club looking at Mauricio Pochettino, Zinedine Zidane and Benfica manager Roger Schmidt

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

14 minutes ago, LegenTerry said:

So...who are the candidates ? Potter, Poch and Ziozou ? 

Zidane isn't interested with PL, so i say it's either Poch or Potter. 

Edited September 7, 2022 by Blues Forever

[Pizy 18,952]

Holy fucking shit. I thought with 100% certainty that Boehly would give him every possible chance to turn the ship around. That he would only act if we were in danger towards the midway point of the season or something. I myself was admittedly turning on him but never thought it would happen this quickly. We’ve just given him a record transfer window and his hand picked striker just arrived days ago specifically to play for him.

I actually feel terrible for TT since the plan as recently as a few weeks ago was for him to be here for years. Boehly couldn’t help enough praise on him as he guided the club through the chaos of last year. 

I just hope we appoint a coach who is obsessively good at coaching attacking football as Pep, Klopp, and even Arteta is now. We have the talent.

[milka 3,393]

Pochettino looking realistic . 

Potter is unlikely to leave his project at  Brighton .

 

[King Kante 1,643]

This is slightly bonkers. We have literally brought players with his 352/343 in mind. Now we have to go out and get another manager who may want something else? Barmy.

Personally, I would go for Potter. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

This is a colossal mistake. Absolutely colossal. After so much talk of building long term with and having absolute faith in Tuchel, Todd Boehly’s basically shat the bed and underperforming mediocre and inconsistent players have basically sealed the fate of another manager.

Potter, Poch, Zidane or Rodger Schmit? Are the club for real 😂 Perhaps Potters up and coming yes but if anyone thinks he is going to come in and do a good job here straight away then they are dreaming. The expectations at Brighton and here are so different. Plus hes been allowed to shape his squad over the last 3 seasons. He clearly wont get that time here if this is anything to go on. 

Todd Boehly again will be painted negatively in the press, more so after the whole “buying every player” narrative this summer but deservedly so this time because this is clearly the decision of a man who has no real footballing advisors around him. This is a knee jerk move. Not even Roman would of pulled the trigger this early into a season.

Edited September 7, 2022 by OneMoSalah

[Pizy 18,952]

I also doubt Potter abandons his squad now that we’re into the season and they’ve started extremely well. 

Think it’s almost certainly going to be Poch. Experience at big clubs, experience with the 3 at the back system, a personality that wouldn’t grate or agitate these spoilt divas we clearly have in the dressing room.

 

[Strike 7,494]

 

- Initially Boehly-Eghbali wanted to back Tuchel. But over the summer, communication dried up, doubts over whether Tuchel can be long-term had appeared

- Tuchel admitted he did not enjoy recruitment role. Boehly-Eghbali did the heavy lifting in the summer

- Tuchel's preferance to be left to work and solve problems on his own, along with his close circle of coaches, is not in line with the inclusive approach of Boehly and Eghbali.

- Boehly’s interest in signing Cristiano Ronaldo : The American reluctant to simply take “no” for an answer from Tuchel, who, according to sources, seemed exasperated at having to explain his reasons for not wanting the Portuguese.

- Privately, Tuchel's attitude and demeanour raised serious doubts. This was his undoing more than results

- Owners wanted a new culture around the club and decided Tuchel is not the man for it. They wanted coach to be more communicative, involved in club projects like hiring the new sporting director

- They want a coach who they feel comfortable bouncing ideas off and peppering with questions, even some that may seem tiresome to those with more football experience.

Edited September 7, 2022 by Strike

[kobematabryant 400]

3 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

This is a colossal mistake. Absolutely colossal. After so much talk of building long term with and having absolute faith in Tuchel, Todd Boehly’s basically shat the bed and underperforming mediocre and inconsistent players have basically sealed the fate of another manager.

Potter, Poch, Zidane or Rodger Schmit? Are the club for real 😂 Perhaps Potters up and coming yes but if anyone thinks he is going to come in and do a good job here straight away then they are dreaming. The expectations at Brighton and here are so different. Plus hes been allowed to shape his squad over the last 3 seasons. He clearly wont get that time here if this is anything to go on. 

Todd Boehly again will be painted negatively in the press, more so after the whole “buying every player” narrative this summer but deservedly so this time because this is clearly the decision of a man who has no real footballing advisors around him. This is a knee jerk move. Not even Roman would of pulled the trigger this early into a season.

Colossal mistake?  It was the correct decision. You just have to look at the trajectory of the club this season and you can foresee how calamitous this season would've ended up, it would've been on par with 15/16 but the only difference here is that Boehly decided to be proactive rather than allow a sinking ship sink any further. 

Look at all our games. West Ham at home should've been a draw if it wasn't for a dodgy decision. Got spanked by Leeds away, lost to a very poor Soton side away, lost to a Croatian side in the CL and played very poorly against Leicester and Everton, yet somehow came away with 3 pts. The only game this season where we looked great was against Spurs. If Tuchel carried on, this season would've been another write-off with so many new players.  The risk was way too big for Boehly. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

Maybe we could try for Hansi Flick? Seems a bit unrealistic though. 

[Pizy 18,952]

I pray that we don’t do something silly like appointing another former player. JT would probably jump at the chance if offered but that would be the biggest mistake we could possibly make.

We’ll finish midtable if we get this appointment wrong. 

[gdlk 286]

Again the players power is too big! 

[BlueLion. 21,491]

This club is a shambles. Toxic from top to bottom. 

 

Player power - again - plays its part. This time, we've fired one of the best managers in world football.

 

It is absolutely brainless and shameful. We've just spent a quarter of a billion on players to fit this manager's philosophy and style. We've then given him 180 minutes since the close of the window to work with what's he has got - including spineless mercenaries, like Pulisic and Ziyech, who have basically just downed tools to get a manager fired, simply because they're not good enough to play for Chelsea. 

 

This is one of the most braindead and shambolic decisions the club has ever taken. The way Tuchel steered this club through the sanctions was phenomenal. He was the face of the club and I couldn't have been prouder to have him at the helm. The way he throws himself under the bus after every poor game to deflect blame away from the players who have let him - and us, the supporters - down, time and time again... I just can't believe we have made this decision. 

 

Well done, Todd: in fewer than 100 days, you've destroyed all the goodwill towards you from the vast majority of the support. But my most endearing thanks goes to the mercenary bastards who've stabbed the manager in the back. I don't think people realise, but I will spell it out: we've just set ourselves back by two years with regards to the rebuild. Tuchel had literally just fucked off the last of the Conte/Sarri era deadwood, and now another manager needs to come in and start from scratch. 

 

Brainless. 

[We Hate Scouse 10,327]

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/Chelsea/next-permanent-manager

Rodgers 4th fave at the moment haha

[Strike 7,494]

Matt Law, Ben Jacobs all reporting the club's version so far. Wonder what Tuchel's version of the story is. Whether he did not want more authority/responsibility and just wanted to coach. Seems like player power - of some average players who haven't played well for months- has also played a part.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

2 minutes ago, kobematabryant said:

Colossal mistake?  It was the correct decision. You just have to look at the trajectory of the club this season and you can foresee how calamitous this season would've ended up, it would've been on par with 15/16 but the only difference here is that Boehly decided to be proactive rather than allow a sinking ship sink any further. 

Look at all our games. West Ham at home should've been a draw if it wasn't for a dodgy decision. Got spanked by Leeds away, lost to a very poor Soton side away, lost to a Croatian side in the CL and played very poorly against Leicester and Everton, yet somehow came away with 3 pts. The only game this season where we looked great was against Spurs. If Tuchel carried on, this season would've been another write-off with so many new players.  The risk was way too big for Boehly. 

It is anything but.

Either that or the new owner has been full of shit on his stance about Tuchel and wanting long term success with him since day 1 and has always had his own ideas about appointing someone else but didn’t do it for whatever reason (find that hard to believe considering he changed a lot of big pieces in the previous regimes operation without hesitation).

I mean you don’t give your manager all the extra responsibility even if he didn’t want it, the power, everything they had given him and throw it away after 6 or 7 games into a season on a whim if you are a competent operator. You just don’t. It is knee jerk. Any other club and you’d agree.

Also does anyone really think this group of largely inconsistent or underperforming players is going to be tenfold better with a new manager? We aren’t talking about a Chelsea team with players the calibre of a Hazard, a Fabregas, a Costa, a Terry, a Lampard, a Drogba etc. Theres a handful of good players and good pros but largely inconsistency has been this groups biggest problem since Frank came in. 

I mean who does the next manager come in and lean on? Our best and consistent player so far has been our right wing back.

Whoever comes in next has a lot of work on their hands, as did Tuchel, because this group is struggling horrifically. 

[coolhead23 1,147]

WTF! If he had to be sacked should have done before. If the communication dried up then what were they waiting for ... it was always showcased that we're building a team for Tuchel and suddenly he is sacked. 

This is simply stupid, Tuchel surely bought this upon himself but this is not the way to disrupt the season