The Mourinho Thread

[Pizy 18,928]

Jose Mourinho:

"We did not deserve to lose."

"They (Bournemouth Players) wasted time, called the medical team constantly and drank water as if it was a basketball game"

"The goal we have suffered was the fault of the ref"

"Handball in the penalty area"

LOL!

Every single point he made there is true, but this team shouldn't EVER be losing at home to Bournemouth regardless.

At some point our problems (which occur every match without fail) have to come down to coaching and not just "bad luck" like José keeps saying. We've played like shit since the start of 2015. Almost a bloody YEAR now!

[lucio 5,418]

Nobody is leaving before the game vs Porto.

say hello to europa then.

[zolayes 14,489]

say hello to europa then.

thursdays can be fun nights then ,, we might even meet Spurs or Liverpool

[lucio 5,418]

we could retain our title, if it wasnt for these athletes drinking water. ffs

[lucio 5,418]

thursdays can be fun nights then ,, we might even meet Spurs or Liverpool

better prepare the bus then.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Jose Mourinho:

"We did not deserve to lose."

"They (Bournemouth Players) wasted time, called the medical team constantly and drank water as if it was a basketball game"

"The goal we have suffered was the fault of the ref"

"Handball in the penalty area"

LOL!

Come on Jose, you're better than that.

The things that he mentioned can happen every game. EVERY GAME. But he went 9 straight years (!!!) without losing a home game in the league DESPITE things mentioned above that certainly happened during that 150 game streak. And now he's talking like when any bit of hurdle occurs then you're dead, you lose home games for fun because you had bad luck or something didn't go your way. How can one man sometime ago went with such a record when he's so vulnerable to everything ?

He really doesn't listen to himself.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

And Oscar has beenworse. The guy can't pass or keep the ball. At least Hazard can pass and keep the ball on his worst day. Two goals against an Isreali pub-side in 4-0 blowouts means nothing. He's been almost as bad as Fabregas. I'm just trying to be objective here.

All valid points but Hazard has still been awful.

[Styles 9,790]

Come on Jose, you're better than that.

That's the thing, he really isn't.

[Essien19 1,415]

to have players like hazard, willian, pedro and not play attacking football is not an option. with such players, you HAVE to play attacking football.

as for certificates, and proven success, they mean NOTHING, when you cant put in a team on merit. when you have no MERITOCRACY in your squad, this is the least that will happen.

i feel we can get a 100% right decision because all of us on here want whats best for chelsea. and that is simply NOT JOSE.

The midfield isn't up for it, neither is the defense, imo.

Since the season has started, the defense is a bit higher up the pitch, didn't work out so well.

Willian is playing great stuff, but his style of play often slows us down, Hazard is a similar case.

Pedro is a luxury player, meaning, he needs the passes, but no one is able to send him on his way.

Yes, we can't buy 3 three points only because of his achievements made in the past, that's true.

Do we really have no performance-orientated society in the squad?

Why did he drop some players in the recent months?

I can agree that we could use more players, but some competition is there.

Yes, i think you will come out swinging and point the finger at Ivanovic.

Would Zouma been the better choice? Baba wasn't match fit, at least Mourinho said that, can't find out, but i believe him.

We need to take a look at the bigger picture; some players are important, not just because the way they are currently playing, but rather they offer different things to the team. They help others out and have great character within the team.

Why do you think Van Gaal doesn't drop Rooney? Because there is more than some performances,

Neville didn't mention it in his analyses, it's always been about tactic and mistakes,

we'll see how he handles the situation in Sevilla.

Personally speaking, i would have dropped Ivanovic a bit earlier, but Mourinho knows his stuff, imo.

Everyone wants the best for the club and team, sometimes disagreements have to happen in the family.

Once again there is a rift between the fans, at least in the stadium it's not that hostile.

Your just a Mourinho apologist mate I can't take anything you post seriously. Take your head out of the sand and have a good look at our predicament. We are in real danger of being dragged into a relegation battle and there's only one person to blame for that. When you start a game with no recognised forward against fucking Bournemouth at home then you reap what you sow.

Playing the same out of form players week after week and not changing it just smacks of incompetence. Special one? don't make me laugh he's about as special as a week old K.F.C. bucket

Mourinho is part of the Chelsea family, so yes, i'm backing him till the end. Especially when there are just insults and no reasoning!

But that doesn't mean that i agree with every decisions he made, but almost every coach in the recent years made bad judgement calls, one can find reasons to kick it up their ass. Very easy and populist, don't like it, not constructive and clearly not helping the course.

Working on the relationship and figuring out, why he does this or this, not looking for the easy way out and filing for divorce as most people do these days.

We're rock bottom and it seems it's getting worse and worse every week; i'm not speaking of the style of play,

the results are the problem because we have clear chances but decide not to score.

I knew we were in trouble when i saw Murray, good poacher, very very bad for Chelsea.

No matter what Mourinho tries, there are always things which aren't good enough.

Benching Costa?

Whining about the replacement!

Playing Baba?

Whining about Ivanovic.

Benching Oscar early?

Whining about Costa and concentrating on why no Remy?

Before that, he benched Hazard, Matic, Fabregas and others, so i disagree with your assessment.

Mourinho is losing more and more games, but i think he doesn't like it one bit and is desperately looking for a solution.

At the moment, is he clueless?

Maybe yes, but his reputation is on the line and i'm confident that we'll grind out enough results to survive in the end.

I know there will be big, very big disagreements but i think in the long-term we'll turn it around and then,

something special has been build.

Hate as much as you want on Wenger, but he is an Arsenal man through and through, i really want to have that at Chelsea, someone stable and big enough to survive in the long run. Someone who likes it around here!

Only Mourinho is allowed to make the big calls.

Scolari wanted Drogba gone? One quick talk from Didier with Abra, gone!

Avb trusted Lukaku instead of Drogba against United, furthermore no mate with Lampard? Gone!

Benitez thought Terry's legs were gone? It didn't take long, gone.

Personally i think if Mourinho is getting the sack, we will go back to the good ol' days, meaning,

zero stability and more and more moaning.

That’s just my two cents worth.

[WNDS 502]

The match against Porto is surely going to be make-or-break for Mourinho after this; I'm not sure that he will be able to keep his job if we drop out of the CL at the group stage as well. Weirdly, though, I actually agree with those who think that entry into the EL might be the only way to prevent this awful season from having an unwelcome knock-on effect on our next season; if we win the EL, we are right back in next season's CL (and with a trophy to boot).

Having said that, if we continue to play like this during the second half of the season, we can forget about winning any trophies whatsoever (apart from the obvious ones that the media and rival supporters will be all too willing to dish out at the end of the season ).

[The Chels 2,502]

I guess Emery would be an interesting choice but despite the Europa League success he's enjoyed, his defensive set-up leaves a lot to be desired IMO. And that's not good enough for the highest level. I know it's only one example but I think the goal De Bruyne scored against Sevilla in the last minute in the game at the Etihad sums it up well. A positive approach by Sevilla in trying to find the winner, you could argue, but I'd say it was incredibly amateur and naive. The less said about the game at the Sanchez-Pizjuan between the two sides, the better. Of course it's hard to criticise Emery given that he coaches attacking football and is afforded a very limited budget but for me, at least, it's clear that there are better alternatives if/when Mourinho leaves.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

For the time being, Mourinho needs to guarantee we stay in Europe, whether it is Champions League or Europa until February. Then hopefully in January, we are able to spend big, we need 2-3 great players come January. Then hopefully our squad is well enough to win Europa/CL from February onwards. Hopefully we can win the FA cup as well.

we are already guaranteed football in Europe come February

[Rhino's Skin 972]

If a high profile manager such as Ancellotti comes in and the remit is to win trophies and be in CL at earliest possibility, then we will be worse off with regards to fringe players and youth coming through.

A new manager with that remit will just want to buy instant successs and although Mourinho doesnt promote many players through the ranks, it could be worse

[quickpassnmove 924]

really wish this crap manager would leave so football can be enjoyed again. I don't even really care to turn on my TV at the weekends for the PL. Liverpool are more interesting even if they don't have a superb lineup.

[Stats 7,147]

Hazard has 0 goals in 20 odd matches. He's been worse than Oscar this season. Couldn't it be the same tactics that are killing Hazard are also affecting the other players? People bring up Mata, De Bruyne but they were just as shit under Mourinho as derided players like Salah and Lukaku who are succeeding elsewhere.

Even the much praised Willian hasn't been that great this season outside set pieces. Mourinho hasn't developed a single non defender since his arrival here.

I get you love Oscar but can you just accept that we can do much better than him. What has he actually offered us this season and for majority of last season? Medicore displays. Today just took it to another level. There is a reason Oscar got subbed off at H/T. Not just because he was poor but I think Mourinho realised himslef that Oscar was not actually going to do anything in attack.

Hazard's goal return has been poor this season and he has been poor but he has been a lot better than Oscar. Hazard was our best player against Arsebal, Stoke, Norwich and changed the game second half against Newcastle. West Brom was very good too. Oscar had one good game against Swansea and put in a good defensive performance against Arsenal. That is about it.

Yeah, Moruinho does fuck up our attacking players but Oscar has not shown signs of his 'potential' for a long while now and I am sick of it.

[samzilla 517]

Sigh, I don't even know what to think anymore.

The board didn't do us any favours by essentially standing pat in the summer, however it's not a reason to be *this* bad. This is beyond the pale and I just don't know what to think anymore.

If Jose doesn't go, I hope we break the winter transfer record and get some real help in for this squad.

[0007 511]

Guys,don't panic,that's all part of Jose's plan.The thing is...he has achieved almost everything in the PL and now it's time to prove himself in an even harder and more competitive scene - the Championship.In the meantime, he is gonna bless us with the glory of being the first back-to-back CL winners.Then he retires at 54 as the gretest of all time.An amazing master-plan ,don't you think?

Nah,who am i kidding - sack him now!!!

[Pizy 18,928]

Just so unbelievably depressing thinking back on last season. It's incomprehensible how our entire team has gone to absolute shit so quickly. All that talk of building upon a team that could dominate for years and the euphoria of winning the title. Thinking about the possibility of having a superb spine that can grow together and compete for everything.

- COSTA was a revelation and we all thought that if he could stay fit he'd be even better this season. He has been terrible.

- FABREGAS led the league in assists and we all figured he'd change how we played going forward and be the perfect fit next to Matic. After his traditional second half slump I just thought "hey, after a nice holiday in the summer he'll return to his best." Nope, he looks like a 60 year old man out there now. Just embarrassingly bad. The most shocking of all our players this season.

- OSCAR was average last season and after José saying he expected Oscar to have a Hazard-esque evolution this season I was ready to see him explode. He looks like he's regressed considerably instead. He goes hiding almost every match. A #10 who isn't creative and who doesn't score either these days.

- MATIC was the best DM in England from the time he rejoined until about midsession last year. He still has a beast of a performance here and there now but he doesn't look like himself any more. Can't be too hard on him because he's left doing so much work and picking up so much slack for the terrible Fabregas.

- IVANOVIC, though divisive here last season was still the league's best RB. Over night he has aged 5 years and is terrible. Inexplicable.

- CAHILL & ZOUMA for me are both complimentary CB's who require a top class partner to help them. They're a mistake waiting to happen at all times. Cahill in particular is shocking in most things other than "hero defending" in desperate situations. When he has someone running at him he's useless. Zouma can't play the ball to save his life and just hoofs it out of play at any sign of a player coming near him.

- HAZARD & WILLIAN are the only two players I can praise this season. No, Hazard isn't playing at nearly the level he was last season but he's dangerous as hell most of the time. It often looks like he's a level or three above his teammates and you can tell it hurts him when they aren't playing at his level. Willian has finally become more dangerous and influential in the final third which we've all wanted for years and it comes when the rest of the team is shit.

Other than poor management and tactics how can all of this have happen virtually overnight? All of the same players who just dominated the PL are now near the relegation zone. It just makes no fucking sense. HOW!?

The club needs something to reinvigorate it and make the players feel like there's light at the end of the tunnel.

[Kezza 1,965]

This is the game that I've changed my stance on Jose..he's doing nothing for this club. His off field antics and poor performances are bringing this club down

[Last Sicarius 610]

Maybe he just wants to win new trophy in championship? :v