AndersonBLUE 819 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 i for one believe in mourinho and our team to turn this around. we have good players and a good manager. Special 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I'm actually looking forward to our next game and everyone knows I'm incredibly pessimistic & cynical of our team. With Ivanovic's injury & Jose insisting RLC will get a run of starts we're finally going to see some new faces in the team who'll play with that youthful exuberance we're so sorely lacking.For the first time since 09/10 Ashley Cole we'll have a massive attacking threat down that left flank & I'm excited to see if he and Hazard can form a little partnership together. He was getting criticism after both games but I saw a fullback routinely getting into promising positions and unlike Azpi/Ivanovic delivering several accurate & crisp crosses into the box. With more familiarity, patience & confidence I really think he can become our own Carvajal, Alaba, Shaw, Bellerin, Shaw etcI also think RLC will offer us something different in a midfield that's been virtually non-existent so far. Obviously he isn't the finished article yet but unlike our 4 other midfielders he has no glaring weakness in his game. The best attributes of Matic (physicality), Cesc (creativity), Ramires (drive) and Mikel (close control) he has it all in his arsenal. I also think Jose's criticism in the off-season did wonders for his off the ball work, he's expanding more energy tracking players & making more challenges. He still has to work on his stamina & engine but I've liked what I've seen so far.www.youtube.com/watch?v=deT8QhK9GSwMaccabi was a 10/10 performance.www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKND_NOs1C4He was more subdued in this game but still a solid game and a World Class assist to boot.Costa will return from suspension with a point to prove & we'll start to see the best player in the League again once chill mode is deactivated. Cesc is the only wild card for me, he's been woeful but do you really want to drop the most creative player not named Messi when you're struggling to create clearcut chances. I say we stick with him for another game to see if he can play his way out of his bad form and offer him as much protection as possible with RLC, Matic, Azpi & Willian.I hope we go 433 Azpi Cahill Zouma BabaMaticCesc RLCWillian Costa HazardYou might be onto something there, RLC is the closest thing we have to ballack. But I hate fabregas in the attacking midfield,he can't move or press so we should play him like how Juventus played Pirlo vidal Pirlo pogba Matic fabregas RLC Pirlo like fabregas was poor defensively, especially when he was 33-34years but vidal and pogba did the dirty work for him.But this won't work properly if we don't have proper full-back play interchanging from the wings. Myself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 We can't do that as we would lose one of Oscar and Willian, and both are really important in this crucial times, the first has been the rare spark and the only player who we can't criticize much since the start of the season, and Willian still gives so much energy to the team. The solution is clear and simple, drop Fabregas, I don't care about his creativity, Ruben, Oscar, Willian and Hazard can provide that in abundance, our problems rely in conceding and struggling in possession, thus not creating chances, it's not like we have a lot of the ball, control the match but can't create chances ( which was the case in 2013-2014, and that why we brought Cesc which proved to be successful at that time ).We need a solid midfield now. BegovicZouma-Cahill-Terry-AzpilicuetaMatic(Mikel)RLC(Ramires)-Oscar(Cesc)Willian-Costa-Hazard This is our best formation atm.By the way, it was an absolutely stupid mistake to send Van Ginkel on loan, he is solid and a great tackler, he would have been starting games now, and we knew we were light in midfield Blue Armour and thedrog108 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,187 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Maybe Mourinho should take a leaf out of John Sitton's book if we are struggling against Villa. Sitton played for us briefly in the late 70's and as you can imagine after this went on air hasn't had a manager's job since.https://youtu.be/7SN9le_U5SIhttps://youtu.be/L20B881v4gA 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I do have some hope for the Villa game now, thanks to Ivanovic's injury.It's like a whole new signing! quickpassnmove 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 While I'm just sitting here until the Villa game, I'm just wanted to say I'm fed up with the players giving the generic "We must bounce back" and "We must back the manager". Talk is cheap guys. How about you show that on the pitch?How about you actually give them a chance to show that on the pitch ?There is absolutely nothing to be said in these two weeks, most of the talking points have been made in the 2-3 days after the game against Southampton, I don't say we should all shut up, but you can't keep blaming the players for something they just said and didn't have the chance to prove yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Gilvorak 3,734 Posted October 9, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 9, 2015 I'm watching Cesc pull the strings for Spain right now as an interior in a 433 and there's no reason to believe he can't do that in a Chelsea shirt. He's finished as a Top Class #10 and he's been found out in a pivot. Time to change formations instead of a pigeon-holing a player into a setup that clearly no longer suits him.Tell Matic to focus on defending alone like Coquelin and leave the creativity to RLC and Cesc. Ivanovic and Terry are done in my eyes (father time remains undefeated) but I refuse to believe the likes of Cesc, Costa & Hazard are "overrated" or "liabilities" after having great seasons. MihaiM24, quickpassnmove, Despiadado.Maleante and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I'm watching Cesc pull the strings for Spain right now as an interior in a 433 and there's no reason to believe he can't do that in a Chelsea shirt. He's finished as a Top Class #10 and he's been found out in a pivot. Time to change formations instead of a pigeon-holing a player into a setup that clearly no longer suits him.Tell Matic to focus on defending alone like Coquelin and leave the creativity to RLC and Cesc. Ivanovic and Terry are done in my eyes (father time remains undefeated) but I refuse to believe the likes of Cesc, Costa & Hazard are "overrated" or "liabilities" after having great seasons.yep. why not just go 4-3-3? I'm for it. I've been for that shit for more than 5 years while CFC haven't had 3 great attackers to put up in the AM positions. Now we might actually have 3 excellent AMs in the squad, but it's still worth playing 4-3-3 when all the opposition just pack it in and Chelsea pass too slow in the opponent's half.The problem for me is that --as SAF said again tonite on the radio: "what you do on the training ground is usually what you get on Saturday." If it were up to Cesc Fabregas, a Chelsea training session and match might look more like a brisk, quick-passing, flowing Chelsea attack --or like a classic Man Utd attack. I doubt Mourinho and his staff have it in them to produce this. Meanwhile at Anfield... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borriske 330 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) He was also asked about KDB. Said that he was doing great and that "he plays in a team that is doing well and is playing (attacking) football, which is always easier for a forward". Edited October 10, 2015 by borriske Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Meanwhile at Anfield...So it begins...... Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Reading reviews online that his book is just and overpriced picture book with a few words on each page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 yep. why not just go 4-3-3? I'm for it. I've been for that shit for more than 5 years while CFC haven't had 3 great attackers to put up in the AM positions. Now we might actually have 3 excellent AMs in the squad, but it's still worth playing 4-3-3 when all the opposition just pack it in and Chelsea pass too slow in the opponent's half.The problem for me is that --as SAF said again tonite on the radio: "what you do on the training ground is usually what you get on Saturday." If it were up to Cesc Fabregas, a Chelsea training session and match might look more like a brisk, quick-passing, flowing Chelsea attack --or like a classic Man Utd attack. I doubt Mourinho and his staff have it in them to produce this. Meanwhile at Anfield...Completely incapable, first half of last season was all Chelsea fans in an alternative universe. I'm the first to say this team currently is badly drilled and trained, but I don't use selective memory to talk about the manager. He can and have to do better, but he seems lost and focusing on the wrong things. What you plant is what you get. Some arrogant git like Mourinho have a moment like this coming. Some call it karma. I still love the guy, but I think it'll take him a while and tons of humble pies before he gets over this slump in his career or he won't be able and it's his declining, I don't want Chelsea to pay for either. killer1257, Muzchap, Irakozium257 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Completely incapable, first half of last season was all Chelsea fans in an alternative universe. I'm the first to say this team currently is badly drilled and trained, but I don't use selective memory to talk about the manager. He can and have to do better, but he seems lost and focusing on the wrong things. What you plant is what you get. Some arrogant git like Mourinho have a moment like this coming. Some call it karma. I still love the guy, but I think it'll take him a while and tons of humble pies before he gets over this slump in his career or he won't be able and it's his declining, I don't want Chelsea to pay for either.Are you at Cobham every day? Do you know what training sessions he runs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,187 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Are you at Cobham every day? Do you know what training sessions he runs?Straw Man Argument. Spike, Clockwork, DYC. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Straw Man Argument.No it's not. You can't make a comment about something you don't know, without a caveat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,754 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 So it begins......And will no doubt continue.Dont give a crap whats going on at other clubs.My concern and will always be whats going on at Chelsea!The break however is nice for a change,not getting annoyed at players/results Blue_Fox_ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakozium257 350 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Completely incapable, first half of last season was all Chelsea fans in an alternative universe. I'm the first to say this team currently is badly drilled and trained, but I don't use selective memory to talk about the manager. He can and have to do better, but he seems lost and focusing on the wrong things. What you plant is what you get. Some arrogant git like Mourinho have a moment like this coming. Some call it karma. I still love the guy, but I think it'll take him a while and tons of humble pies before he gets over this slump in his career or he won't be able and it's his declining, I don't want Chelsea to pay for either.The 2nd paragrah hit the spot, that's how I've had it with him since he came back. He has bravado, and martyr (creating an us vs the world mentality instead of shutting up and not giving a care for what others say or think about him) mentality ingrained in him and it usually shows up in various subtle ways, where you really feel that the guy has the right to be confident, but in a humble and/or a light-hearted way ffs. Even when the past season was rolling with great results, you could smell his arrogance and buffoon-like verbal intelligence from miles away and you just knew that sooner or later he'll reap what he sow and CFC was gonna suffer along with it. Even Borussia M'Gladbach have gotten over their horredous start by letting go a coach who got them 3rd place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Klopp is already ahead in the PR table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 No it's not. You can't make a comment about something you don't know, without a caveat.they started on that because I quoted Sir Alex: "what you do on the training ground is usually what you get on Saturday." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Fulham Broadway 17,810 Posted October 10, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 10, 2015 Its great that people have different opinions. I am also glad that the owner, board, players, coaches, scouts, and all associated with the club back the greatest manager CFC have ever had at present, and our views have zero influence on what happens. Blue Armour, Blue_Fox_, hjperdeath and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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