Blue Armour 4,448 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Vegetable said: Yeah, we were actually happy to see Roman around. What I'm worried about is pulling the string both sides at the same time. "The board" aka TB & EB were very reluctant to let Potter go, despite the footballing people pushing for it. It could be matter of his last 3 games window, but the situation could actually be dragging for weeks. The football people finally managed to force their solution, but were they actually pushing for Lampard? I somewhat doubt it and I'm not even thinking about the rumor of some tv-celebrity recommending his appointment. Many people agree that Mudryk was highly random signing. Was it the directors plan or just TB looking for making an impact to prove a point? Who knows. Having a boatload of similar-level players for an AMF-ish position with even more incoming also doesn't seem like a sign of deep thought. What I mean is putting people and resources in place to create a certain structure and also making individual, half-random decisions that cancel out their effort and are totally disconnected from their concept doesn't seem super effective. Looks like a lack of communication or lack of trust a little bit. Of course owner should have a say, but it's hard to achieve the desired effect without a common strategy and synergy. They probably settled on Lampard because he was the only one willing to be an interim manager. Enrique would have only taken a full time role, and since they have leanings to Naggelsman, they decided not to make a decision on a permanent coach. I really hope Naggelsman works (as the signs are all pointing at him). But I'm not sure if he's the right personality for this type of club. Not enjoying the comparisons with Potter. mkh, manpe, Fernando and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 6 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Lucky to even be considered a football player based on what he’s shown so far tbf. he would have been better if he joined arsenal. Chelsea ruin everyone. loads of players have a promising debut before Chelsea drags them down. morata , mudryk, cucarella, werner, even lukaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 2 hours ago, lucio said: he would have been better if he joined arsenal. Chelsea ruin everyone. loads of players have a promising debut before Chelsea drags them down. morata , mudryk, cucarella, werner, even lukaku Morata said himself that he didn't enjoy playing in the Premier League, Werner wasn't dragged down, he was just labelled a flop due to all the offsides/misses against his name (mentioned that his relationship with Tuchel broke down and he wanted to leave) and Lukaku wasn't dragged down, he's had a pretty successful career with his other clubs. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 28 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: Morata said himself that he didn't enjoy playing in the Premier League, Werner wasn't dragged down, he was just labelled a flop due to all the offsides/misses against his name (mentioned that his relationship with Tuchel broke down and he wanted to leave) and Lukaku wasn't dragged down, he's had a pretty successful career with his other clubs. All were better before joining and left as worse players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 14 hours ago, Cosmin said: Raheem Sterling fits all the boxes. Mudryk cannot even be considered a “senior player”, I suppose. Koulibaly too. Transfer fee maybe less but huge contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I wonder what Todd will say or do now. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 'Tuppy: Astonishing how much money can be spent on players you simply do not need - some vanity project for an American billionaire. Where are the finishers!' Johnnyeye and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Seriously: I can't believe some fools on Twitter and Reddit can't accept Todd is THE reason for the current mess, just because he spent 500m on players. I mean, come on guys. We bought this kind of players with that amount of cash: Cucurella, Mudryk, 2 Fofanas, Badiashile, Gusto, Madueke, Colwill, Sterling, Nkunku, overpriced Enzo and João Felix on an ultra expensive loan. Let me be clear here: none of those players are or ever will be world class players. Its just amusing and shocking that we spent 500m players on a bunch of average players, and I'm quite comfortable in saying that right now we are weaker than we were last season in pretty much every position of the field, but right now we won't be able to spend big for a good amount of years, without risking suffering penalties from both UEFA and Premier League. We are doomed and we must accept that we are going to suffer what Manchester and Arsenal fans suffered in past 10 years: supporting a club that became a laughing stock and that nobody respects. It will take years, if not decades, before we are a top club again, in terms of results and it won't happen under the current owners, unless they simply walk away from football activity and let people who understand the game run the club. Blue Armour, Strike, Johnnyeye and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,276 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Fernando said: I wonder what Todd will say or do now. Back to the dressing room again for starters bigbluewillie and Blue Armour 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Henrique said: Seriously: I can't believe some fools on Twitter and Reddit can't accept Todd is THE reason for the current mess, just because he spent 500m on players. I mean, come on guys. We bought this kind of players with that amount of cash: Cucurella, Mudryk, 2 Fofanas, Badiashile, Gusto, Madueke, Colwill, Sterling, Nkunku, overpriced Enzo and João Felix on an ultra expensive loan. Let me be clear here: none of those players are or ever will be world class players. Its just amusing and shocking that we spent 500m players on a bunch of average players, and I'm quite comfortable in saying that right now we are weaker than we were last season in pretty much every position of the field, but right now we won't be able to spend big for a good amount of years, without risking suffering penalties from both UEFA and Premier League. We are doomed and we must accept that we are going to suffer what Manchester and Arsenal fans suffered in past 10 years: supporting a club that became a laughing stock and that nobody respects. It will take years, if not decades, before we are a top club again, in terms of results and it won't happen under the current owners, unless they simply walk away from football activity and let people who understand the game run the club. Agree with 90% of what you’ve said here. I mean the Boehly/Eghbali decision making processes this year has been abysmal - the links to every player on the go in the summer (not even going to go into actual signings), the whole technical director recruitment struggle and then Tuchel sacking was a bad start. You think hmm okay maybe just an uniucky start, a few things to fix but then going for Potter and watching us play even worse for months upon months before pulling the pin about 3 months too late. Surely couldn’t get any worse though? Oh wait, they sack Potter with some sort of idea in their head that Frank Lampard as a temp manger coming back here would win us the CL/save their reputations with the fans….. or media, or both. In January people were championing Eghbali and Boehly for getting Enzo Fernandez and Mudryk in but we have completely lost everything that made this club successful or at least what it was with Abramovich with these 2. I hope how they’ve conducted themselves and have been doing do over the last year doesn’t affect any managers looking to come here. I mean its at the point when people inside the club are saying that the situation is a fucking mess. And thats been quoted as coming from someone pretty close to the higher ups inside the club. Laylabelle, Fernando, Vegetable and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I genuinly believe we won't win a game under Lampard. A new manager needs to be announced. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,510 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Roman comeback pls Vytis33 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Rumour has it, they were playing You Will Never Walk Alone at HT of the CL game... If that is true.... Fucking beyond mental. These owners better fix up sharp and start respecting the club and its fans before they get tuned on big style. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Re-hiring Lampard was the tipping point for me (and before SFL fans jump on my back, I accept that its not Frank's fault in any way). It showed that these people don't take the consequences seriously enough. Replacing Tuchel with the relatively green Potter was risky enough. But replacing Potter just to placate the fans, and then hire a novice in Lampard as a scapegoat? Very short term thinking. If they wanted to wait till summer to get their permanent manager (who I hope is actually good enough), then why not wait till the summer before removing Potter? Its all short-term thinking. Just like the decision to keep D. Fofana away from a loan and to rot on the bench. OneMoSalah and manpe 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Laylabelle 9,536 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 If this was another team we'd be laughing..all that money spent and sitting in 11th place with a win a rare occasion. Instead it's us and it's pretty depressing! Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, Blue Armour said: Re-hiring Lampard was the tipping point for me (and before SFL fans jump on my back, I accept that its not Frank's fault in any way). It showed that these people don't take the consequences seriously enough. Replacing Tuchel with the relatively green Potter was risky enough. But replacing Potter just to placate the fans, and then hire a novice in Lampard as a scapegoat? Very short term thinking. If they wanted to wait till summer to get their permanent manager (who I hope is actually good enough), then why not wait till the summer before removing Potter? Its all short-term thinking. Just like the decision to keep D. Fofana away from a loan and to rot on the bench. I Personally think that Potter was the really odd hire. I couldn't care less if he's English or not, but he just did not do enough to warrant the bet. If you are in tech, or any other jobs really, the sad reality is that you get hired for the things you've done before: once you pick a field/area of expertise, or that field picks you, it's hard to shake it off. I look back at bets, right or wrong, and I see something done before that was worth duplicating (barring those ex-player tampons). With Potter, I saw nothing worth replicating... not at this level. There is NOTHING in Brighton's play that I see that makes me think, "hmm Real should pay attention here." While I agree it is short-term thinking, I don't think that's what they originally wanted. I do think they had a plan, which was probably a pipe dream as the owners are clearly learning on the job. Edited April 19, 2023 by robsblubot manpe, Blue Armour, Vegetable and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, robsblubot said: I Personally think that Potter was the really odd hiring. I couldn't care less if he's English or not, but he just did not do enough to warrant the bet. If you are in tech, or in other jobs, the sad reality is that you get hired for the things you've done before: once you pick a field/area of expertise, or that field picks you, it's hard to shake it off. I look back at bets, right or wrong, and I see something done before that was worth duplicating (barring those ex-player tampons). With Potter, I saw nothing worth replicating... not at this level. There is NOTHING in Brighton's play that I see that makes me think, hmm Real should pay attention here. While I agree it is short-term thinking, I don't think that's what they originally wanted. I do think they had a plan, which was probably a pipe dream as the owners are seem to be clearly learning on the job. I really hope that latter part is true. Even if we write off this disaster of a first season, they better change things to make us fight back strong next season. Edited April 19, 2023 by Blue Armour robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) Bohely has ruined our club. I've said before and say again if he wants to help CFC then sell the fucking club you "dim witted cunt" The only place we're going next season with him in charge is Div2🥵 Edited April 19, 2023 by bigbluewillie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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