The Conte Thread

[CHOULO19 24,332]

13 hours ago, AlesJuve said:

I propose an exchange of coaches you will take Allegri and give us back Conte.

Any day of the week, my friend. 

[Special Juan 27,424]

Before we even think of looking at Conte let's look at the 8-9 under performing players.

[King11Didier 916]

14 hours ago, AlesJuve said:

I propose an exchange of coaches you will take Allegri and give us back Conte.

No chance mate I'd even prefer Hiddink over Allegri.

[Reddish-Blue 2,347]

16 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Before we even think of looking at Conte let's look at the 8-9 under performing players.

That sounds just like last season 

[Special Juan 27,424]

Just now, Reddish-Blue said:

That sounds just like last season 

Ive seen a lot that looks like last season already.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

This was Contes first league defeat at home after 30 games.

[Adnane 1,101]

Think it's too much overreacting here... 

The defeat hurts, they were obviously better, but he had his reasons for the late subs ( he explained them btw, bringing in fresh players near full time gives them edge over the opponents, worked in the past, didn't work thihs time, shit happens ). 

Also did anyone see his face during the post game presser, he must have been absolutely furious with the lads. 

And he started reminding of the danger of the Premier League straight away from the first defeat, sort of "Shouldn't happen ever again" thing. This is the right thing to do. 

 

[DYC. 7,542]

Nothing wrong with Conte. The hype just went too far. All of sudden he was painted as some magical mastermind who would come in and lift Chelsea to the highest plateau.

I like Conte. First appointment I've liked since Villas-Boas (sad how things turned out but I still think he's a very good coach, probably not the best manager but he's still young). I doubt we'll ever see very exciting football under him but he could eventually make the team very organised and solid in all areas. As long as it isn't dull and too reactive.

Just needs to get that top 4 finish and strengthen the team (a lot) more next summer. But I'll keep saying it, it's not going to be easy. City, Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool... Everton could be the surprise of the league this season (there's always one or two).

A top four of City, Spurs, Chelsea, Everton would be amazing and hilarious.

[manpe 10,861]

Reading this topic and the Liverpool post-match one I remembered why I have lost most of my interest in actively participating and reading this forum. Many people are very stupid, I cannot stand it anymore. I will not elaborate what I mean by this or name any names, but the level of ignorance is getting unbearable. Quantity has clearly overrun quality in this community.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

4 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

Any day of the week, my friend. 

I have to admit that in the, "Who do you want as the next Chelsea manager", poll Allegri got my vote.

Nothing against Antonio, I like him a lot. I like the intelligence he shows in interviews and I even like the fact that his press conferences are the most boring things known to man. He is here now so he has my support and I'm sure he has yours too.

it is more difficult every day for the club to afford, and to attract, the quality of player necessary to improve our prospects. Antonio has a very tough job on his hands. Let's wish him well.

[manpe 10,861]

21 minutes ago, iceboy said:

Agree with you mate. Since 2012 this place changed a lot. All the old members lost their interest here. When we win there are 2 page of post match thread when we lose 7.

It doesn't bother me how many pages some thread gets, it's the content (i.e. the general outcry that Conte is a fraud after his first defeat, fuck me silly what my eyes have to see on here). I want to be able to talk and read Chelsea somewhere, TalkChelsea isn't the place anymore, but I don't want to leave because of my long history here. Anyway, whatever, I will not discuss this any further, I believe most of you are familiar with my views already.

[Special Juan 27,424]

2 hours ago, DYC. said:

Nothing wrong with Conte. The hype just went too far. All of sudden he was painted as some magical mastermind who would come in and lift Chelsea to the highest plateau.

I like Conte. First appointment I've liked since Villas-Boas (sad how things turned out but I still think he's a very good coach, probably not the best manager but he's still young). I doubt we'll ever see very exciting football under him but he could eventually make the team very organised and solid in all areas. As long as it isn't dull and too reactive.

Just needs to get that top 4 finish and strengthen the team (a lot) more next summer. But I'll keep saying it, it's not going to be easy. City, Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool... Everton could be the surprise of the league this season (there's always one or two).

A top four of City, Spurs, Chelsea, Everton would be amazing and hilarious.

Good post and agree with it. Conte needs to learn quickly that when trailing in the PL and chasing a game not to leave subs until 3 minutes before the end....That was bizarre in the extreme,he must not let that happen again.

To leave Batshuayi on the bench when we needed a goal was crazy.

 

[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

2 hours ago, DYC. said:

Nothing wrong with Conte. The hype just went too far. All of sudden he was painted as some magical mastermind who would come in and lift Chelsea to the highest plateau.

I like Conte. First appointment I've liked since Villas-Boas (sad how things turned out but I still think he's a very good coach, probably not the best manager but he's still young). I doubt we'll ever see very exciting football under him but he could eventually make the team very organised and solid in all areas. As long as it isn't dull and too reactive.

Just needs to get that top 4 finish and strengthen the team (a lot) more next summer. But I'll keep saying it, it's not going to be easy. City, Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool... Everton could be the surprise of the league this season (there's always one or two).

A top four of City, Spurs, Chelsea, Everton would be amazing and hilarious.

Very tough ask I think

I believe city and Arsenal are certainties for the top four, while Spurs and Liverpool have both looked significantly better than we have so far. Obviously United and Leicester  must count as candidates but, fortunately, West Ham have continued to look as appalling as they did at Stamford Bridge. Maybe thier status as outsiders will be taken by Everton.

If there is a glimmer of hope for us, then it is no more than a  glimmer. 

[Pizy 18,368]

27 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Very tough ask I think

I believe city and Arsenal are certainties for the top four, while Spurs and Liverpool have both looked significantly better than we have so far. Obviously United and Leicester  must count as candidates but, fortunately, West Ham have continued to look as appalling as they did at Stamford Bridge. Maybe thier status as outsiders will be taken by Everton.

If there is a glimmer of hope for us, then it is no more than a  glimmer. 

Christ, I thought I was a bit negative...

No way have Spurs looked significantly better than us. They've been nowhere near where they were last season so far and now may be losing Kane for an extended period. Liverpool have been (really) hot and cold. That's how I think they'll be all season. They'll look unstoppable one game and woeful the next. Everton won't keep this up all season.

The only 100% certainty for the top 4 is City who will walk the title by the look of it. With the amount of uncertainty with everyone but them, we have a fantastic shot at top 4.

We win our next 2 PL games against top quality sides and suddenly we're right back up there and morale is restored.

[Henrique 9,133]

5 hours ago, DYC. said:

Nothing wrong with Conte. The hype just went too far. All of sudden he was painted as some magical mastermind who would come in and lift Chelsea to the highest plateau.

I like Conte. First appointment I've liked since Villas-Boas (sad how things turned out but I still think he's a very good coach, probably not the best manager but he's still young). I doubt we'll ever see very exciting football under him but he could eventually make the team very organised and solid in all areas. As long as it isn't dull and too reactive.

Just needs to get that top 4 finish and strengthen the team (a lot) more next summer. But I'll keep saying it, it's not going to be easy. City, Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool... Everton could be the surprise of the league this season (there's always one or two).

A top four of City, Spurs, Chelsea, Everton would be amazing and hilarious.

This. The squad is limited and Conte is not this "magical mastermind" some people thought he was, or an italian version of Mourinho MK1. Before the seasons started I said it would be really difficult to even get a top 4 finish and the the likes of @Polo7 were saying we would definetely finish in top 4, as it was something that would be easily achieved. Finishing in 4th will be a HUGE achievement for Conte, but he is not helping himself with some decisions that make him look like Gyro Gearloose.

 

[Fernando 6,454]

9 minutes ago, Henrique said:

This. The squad is limited and Conte is not this "magical mastermind" some people thought he was, or an italian version of Mourinho MK1. Before the seasons started I said it would be really difficult to even get a top 4 finish and the the likes of @Polo7 were saying we would definetely finish in top 4, as it was something that would be easily achieved. Finishing in 4th will be a HUGE achievement for Conte, but he is not helping himself with some decisions that make him look like Gyro Gearloose.

 

Conte is a step up to Mourinho and the best choice available out there that would accept us under the circumstances.

[Tomo 21,733]

54 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Conte is a step up to Mourinho and the best choice available out there that would accept us under the circumstances.

This Jose no doubt, but Henrique was talking about Jose mark 1.

[DYC. 7,542]

3 hours ago, Pizy said:

Christ, I thought I was a bit negative...

No way have Spurs looked significantly better than us. They've been nowhere near where they were last season so far and now may be losing Kane for an extended period. Liverpool have been (really) hot and cold. That's how I think they'll be all season. They'll look unstoppable one game and woeful the next. Everton won't keep this up all season.

The only 100% certainty for the top 4 is City who will walk the title by the look of it. With the amount of uncertainty with everyone but them, we have a fantastic shot at top 4.

We win our next 2 PL games against top quality sides and suddenly we're right back up there and morale is restored.

I haven't been paying much attention to the rivals but Liverpool hot and cold? Bar losing to Burnley, they've booked excellent results. And they've already faced Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea away. 10 out 15 points with that squad and that fixture list is fantastic.

You can't say that Everton. It's unlikely but far from impossible. We've seen plenty of teams punch well above their weight in the past years. And there's no denying anymore that 14/15 Chelsea is one of those teams.

I agree with Greavsie on City and Arsenal (they always manage sadly). Utd should be in there based on quality but I hope they continue failing. The rest I don't know. It will be interesting.