The Mourinho Thread

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Either you die as a hero or you live long enough to become villain.

Hmm...

We got a win, albeit with shit game and against worst opponent but 3point are 3points.

But Mou work with solving the crisis is questionable to say at least. Maybe he sees something I dont, hopefuly he sorts our team as it should be.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

LOL cant stop laughing at the fact people are still moaning after a win and clean sheet today!

after the way we have started the season, our performance is not important at all right now! getting 3 points and building confidence and getting back used to winning games is what is important right now!

What did people expect us to suddenly start playing Brazil 1970 after not playing good football at all for the entire calender year of 2015??? fact is its going to take time to get back to playing good football, right now if we can keep winning games without being at our best that is fine by me, it really is hilarious seeing people moan about our performance after being so awful this season! right now i will take any win we can get.

So your not in the least concerned that a title winning team has more or less imploded and that after losing to Palace and Southampton that everyone in the ground had a feeling of relief rather then euphoria.

[bethos1 802]

LOL cant stop laughing at the fact people are still moaning after a win and clean sheet today!

after the way we have started the season, our performance is not important at all right now! getting 3 points and building confidence and getting back used to winning games is what is important right now!

What did people expect us to suddenly start playing Brazil 1970 after not playing good football at all for the entire calender year of 2015??? fact is its going to take time to get back to playing good football, right now if we can keep winning games without being at our best that is fine by me, it really is hilarious seeing people moan about our performance after being so awful this season! right now i will take any win we can get.

So you get confidence from playing like shit and winning? Sure it's better than playing like shit and losing but if we don't start playing decent we will just start losing again.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

So your not in the least concerned that a title winning team has more or less imploded and that after losing to Palace and Southampton that everyone in the ground had a feeling of relief rather then euphoria.

of course im concerned with our form and relief is exactly what i felt today! but i am realistic and know its gonna take time for us to get back in top form, i am certainly not going to moan about performances after a rare win this season

[Pacquiao 1,834]

So you get confidence from playing like shit and winning? Sure it's better than playing like shit and losing but if we don't start playing decent we will just start losing again.

yes! winning games will give the players confidence, and playing bad and winning will give them confidence as they will think 'we are winning and not even playing at our best imagine how easy it will be when we are playing well'

and yes of course we need to play better but its not going to happen over night, winning games and gaining confidence will certainlly help though.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

yes! winning games will give the players confidence, and playing bad and winning will give them confidence as they will think 'we are winning and not even playing at our best imagine how easy it will be when we are playing well'

and yes of course we need to play better but its not going to happen over night, winning games and gaining confidence will certainlly help though.

No offence son but your just posting cliches

[bethos1 802]

yes! winning games will give the players confidence, and playing bad and winning will give them confidence as they will think 'we are winning and not even playing at our best imagine how easy it will be when we are playing well'

and yes of course we need to play better but its not going to happen over night, winning games and gaining confidence will certainlly help though.

We won because we were lucky. How can you get confidence from that? I feel the same way about our team now than I did before the game. It doesn't give me more confidence at all. Maybe the players feel a little bit better but if they play like today next week, I give them 70% chance to lose.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

We won because we were lucky. How can you get confidence from that? I feel the same way about our team now than I did before the game. It doesn't give me more confidence at all. Maybe the players feel a little bit better but if they play like today next week, I give them 70% chance to lose.

We won because we were better than them and seized upon their mistake for the 1st. Willian still had to intercept and Costa still had to get into position.

We controlled that match comfortably and shut the game down 2nd half

[quickpassnmove 924]

Hazard to be benched more until he's a "team player" for Jose's Chelsea. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jose-mourinho-says-eden-hazard-6652824

Interesting development. wonder where that's headed.

How do you like being expected to carrying the team that is so inept at attacking and always the one to be kicked by the opposition? Will your knees hold out? Better in Spain or Paris?

[Blue Armour 4,322]

He said in his PC that he didn't play Eden because of tactics because we've been conceding too many goals lately, all in the same breath.

Surely, he could be lying and probably trying to protect a possible injury and stuff, but if it's true, my goodness, he might think it worked and we're fucked.

No real surprise at all. I said in an earlier post that the only reason Mourinho kept using Azpilicueta on the left and not anyone else, was because of Hazard.

Tbh, today I was expecting him to continue with Cesar on the left and keep Zouma on the right, but he opted to go for having 2 natural full-backs and was even willing to drop Hazard as well.

I'm pretty sure he has no plans of playing BOTH Baba and Hazard on the left flank, and tbh we would get crushed on that wing right now. Baba is only settling in, and Hazard is not in the best form.

[Laugh1ngMan 393]

So we finally got to see what Mou's answer was to this crisis:

Remove the last bit of creativity from our team and go even more defensive.

This guy is just a portuguese Tony Pulis but with a bigger ego and a bigger budget.

We were in the process of building a team who could win things by playing more attacking and entertaining football and he singlehandedly killed it just to win a league title in the short term

[Jase 43,479]

Chelsea win overshadowed by Jose Mourinho's choice to drop Eden Hazard

Nail. On. Head.

This is a massive understatement but Mourinho really does baffle people with the things he say. We won yesterday - our first win in nearly a month IIRC - and he could have just let that be the headline. But no. He had to go and criticize Hazard for his lack of defensive work when asked why he was on the bench. Could have just said he was rested, he's been playing poorly (which is true) etc but instead, he had to cause some sort of controversy and give the media ammunition to write negative stories about the club.

Some might argue that he's challenging Hazard to improve himself but he really could have just done that by talking him to privately. There's no need to say those things in the public! I'm not optimistic that Hazard will stay with us for a long time but if we lose him because he cannot stand Mourinho's constant criticism about his defending - which is mostly unfair when you see the likes of Ivanovic, Fabregas etc have gotten away with it - then Mourinho seriously has plenty to answer. We have a player with the potential to be the best in the world but he's being criticized and held back from becoming better because of defensive work.

[borriske 330]

Hazard to be benched more until he's a "team player" for Jose's Chelsea. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jose-mourinho-says-eden-hazard-6652824

Interesting development. wonder where that's headed.

How do you like being expected to carrying the team that is so inept at attacking and always the one to be kicked by the opposition? Will your knees hold out? Better in Spain or Paris?

Now Eden shouldn't be free from criticism or from being benched but this makes no sense.

1) If he can't fit in a player like eden against Villa at home because he's concerned about conceding goals, well...

2) If it's about sending a message to Hazard (which is what i feel it is all about), the timing seems wrong, two weeks after his last chelsea game, on the back of his best performance of the season (albeit for the NT).

3) Having Hazard defend more, is not going to help us that much. We need him to carry us forward. Having him track back more is only going to hold him back from it more.

4) And now these comments... Sheesh. He's never criticized anyone by name like this before (besides Carneiro lol). I mean questioning his attitude, threatening to drop him completely... It may have worked after the Atleti game, but it' different now. All of the team is underperforming (not you Willian :heart: ), so why is he singled out like that. Besides Jose is not in as strong as a position as back then, far from it, no matter what the board and the players are saying.

[stroey 2,525]

People asked for Baba, got Baba.
- asked for RLC, got RLC.
- wanted Zouma, is a fixed starter now.
- complained Jose kept playing Falcao because of his ego, Falcao is dropped from the bench vs Porto and Villa.
- complained that Jose never drops untouchables, dropped Cahill, Oscar, HAZARD, MATIC, TERRY.
- a clean sheet, got one.
- a win with 2 goals difference, got one.

But still, zero praise for the changes, all you can hear on this forum is moan moan moan and moan, the glass is always half empty on here.
All you guys will focus on is Cesc and Ivanovic not being dropped, exactly what Jose asked for in the summer and didn't get: defender and midfielder.

All other guys has decent replacements, who is Cesc's replacement? Oscar? Is he creative? No we don't have other play makers.
Ivanovic is the only guy that should've been dropped earlier but who is his replacement? Baba? Not 100% ready yet. If we got Marquinhos/Stones or kept Filipe Ivanovic would already been dropped long time ago.

[lucio 5,418]

People asked for Baba, got Baba.

- asked for RLC, got RLC.

- wanted Zouma, is a fixed starter now.

- complained Jose kept playing Falcao because of his ego, Falcao is dropped from the bench vs Porto and Villa.

- complained that Jose never drops untouchables, dropped Cahill, Oscar, HAZARD, MATIC, TERRY.

- a clean sheet, got one.

- a win with 2 goals difference, got one.

But still, zero praise for the changes, all you can here on this forum is moan moan moan and moan, the glass is always half empty on here.

All you guys will focus on is Cesc and Ivanovic not being dropped, exactly what Jose asked for in the summer and didn't get: defender and midfielder.

All other guys has decent replacements, who is Cesc's replacement? Oscar? Is he creative? No we don't have other play makers.

Ivanovic is the only guy that should've been dropped earlier but who is his replacement? Baba? Not 100% ready yet. If we got Marquinhos/Stones or kept Filipe Ivanovic would already been dropped long time ago.

true i guess, but it was a dodgy win vs a horrible side, useful , but doesn't change the situation. and mourinho never delivers the perfect team sheet. he gives you one thing, but takes away something you wanted also,

[stroey 2,525]

true i guess, but it was a dodgy win vs a horrible side, useful , but doesn't change the situation. and mourinho never delivers the perfect team sheet. he gives you one thing, but takes away something you wanted also,

Yeah true but shouldn't he at least get some praise for trying to change things?

Hazard under performed whole season, deservedly dropped despite being our best player.

We don't have 2 Azpi's, otherwise 50% of our problems would've been solved. We don't have a decent back up for Cesc, without him we go back to 2013-14, a team without creativity from midfield that relies on Hazard or a counter attack.

[zolayes 14,489]

People asked for Baba, got Baba.

- asked for RLC, got RLC.

- wanted Zouma, is a fixed starter now.

- complained Jose kept playing Falcao because of his ego, Falcao is dropped from the bench vs Porto and Villa.

- complained that Jose never drops untouchables, dropped Cahill, Oscar, HAZARD, MATIC, TERRY.

- a clean sheet, got one.

- a win with 2 goals difference, got one.

But still, zero praise for the changes, all you can here on this forum is moan moan moan and moan, the glass is always half empty on here.

All you guys will focus on is Cesc and Ivanovic not being dropped, exactly what Jose asked for in the summer and didn't get: defender and midfielder.

All other guys has decent replacements, who is Cesc's replacement? Oscar? Is he creative? No we don't have other play makers.

Ivanovic is the only guy that should've been dropped earlier but who is his replacement? Baba? Not 100% ready yet. If we got Marquinhos/Stones or kept Filipe Ivanovic would already been dropped long time ago.

maybe the glass would be nearer to full if he hadn't got rid of Bertrand ,, Philipe Luis ,, Mata KDB Lukaku , Schurle and Salah . He would then have had genuine options.

[Azul 1,615]

I was backing him to stay until the end of the season but his comments yesterday about Eden are unforgiveable. I truly hope that he gets the sack ASAP.