The Mourinho Thread

[ZanSnake 1,211]

Take with a pinch of salt.

1. It's twitter.

2. Twitter source is the Sun.

[stroey 2,525]

Reporter is Rob Beasley (quite reliable?), basically repeated what he said in the summer.

the article:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6725445/Jose-Mourinho-told-Chelsea-to-sign-Gareth-Bale-Raheem-Sterling-and-John-Stones.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-TheSunFootball-_-20151104-_-SunFootballSocial-_-269085493-_-Imageandlink

A close friend revealed: “Jose felt he was being asked to work miracles.

“The club thought he didn’t need any new players, that essentially the same squad could dominate again

“But he knew differently. He laughed at the idea but not because he found the situation funny — far from it.

“He knew he needed a fresh injection of talent, he knew he needed to increase competition for places and depth to his squad.

“He knew it was dangerous to stand still and give other sides the opportunity to play catch-up.”

Belatedly Chelsea tried to make up for lost time — and they failed. It’s proving an expensive failure, too.

And the man who stands to pay the ultimate price for that failure is not Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich, not chairman Bruce Buck, not main director Marina Granovskaia.

It’s the man who sounded the alarm bells long before a ball was even kicked.

Funny old game, hey? Unless your name is Mourinho.

[Adnane 1,101]

Still you would think that a guy who won 8 league titles and two champions League trophies over 15 years would've seen that coming rather than the theory that says the guy is just "past it".

[Parky 739]

Fuck so much conflicting information I do not know what to believe anymore. The media love to fuck with our club which is the only truth out of all this.

[Ollie 4,400]

I'd like to actually know what's going on behind the scenes first to decide on whether Jose should go or not. If this is all down to him, treating players poorly, having an attitude towards them, instructing them to sit back against inferior opposition which is stopping us from performing and going for it then i'd be happy for someone else to take charge and let the players express themselves confidently with more trust. If this is all down to the players, then no i don't want him to go and i'd like a mass clear out, including Hazard and Fabregas as they have been shit this season. It doesn't matter what a manager says, if the players don't perform, how can you win games of football? You can't.

I love the man, i want him to stay but seriously.... what the fuck is going on here? I don't think anyone knows but i'd love him to be the one to turn it around. Top 4 is over for us, we have no chance of that so there will be no Champions League football next season for the first time in over a decade. That will give him a chance to offload the ego's and start rebuilding again. Just depends if he will be the one to rebuild it or not, i sincerely hope he does.

I believe the players are against him from the moment against Swansea when the doctors went onto the pitch with good reason, then to be undermined and publicly humiliated. Since then, the players have been awful and he's been full of excuses moaning at referees and other things. there is no desire any more for most of these players to get results.

Hazard has been dropped, JT has been dropped, Costa isn't doing anything apart from being a petulant bully and there are players like Ramires, Remy and Loftus Cheek that should be playing.

He's got a lot of work to do but i have faith he'll sort it. I wouldn't cry if he was sacked though. I support Chelsea, not Mourinho. I want to see a happy Chelsea camp, not this.

[stroey 2,525]

[Rmpr 8,977]

I'd like to actually know what's going on behind the scenes first to decide on whether Jose should go or not. If this is all down to him, treating players poorly, having an attitude towards them, instructing them to sit back against inferior opposition which is stopping us from performing and going for it then i'd be happy for someone else to take charge and let the players express themselves confidently with more trust. If this is all down to the players, then no i don't want him to go and i'd like a mass clear out, including Hazard and Fabregas as they have been shit this season. It doesn't matter what a manager says, if the players don't perform, how can you win games of football? You can't.

I love the man, i want him to stay but seriously.... what the fuck is going on here? I don't think anyone knows but i'd love him to be the one to turn it around. Top 4 is over for us, we have no chance of that so there will be no Champions League football next season for the first time in over a decade. That will give him a chance to offload the ego's and start rebuilding again. Just depends if he will be the one to rebuild it or not, i sincerely hope he does.

I believe the players are against him from the moment against Swansea when the doctors went onto the pitch with good reason, then to be undermined and publicly humiliated. Since then, the players have been awful and he's been full of excuses moaning at referees and other things. there is no desire any more for most of these players to get results.

Hazard has been dropped, JT has been dropped, Costa isn't doing anything apart from being a petulant bully and there are players like Ramires, Remy and Loftus Cheek that should be playing.

He's got a lot of work to do but i have faith he'll sort it. I wouldn't cry if he was sacked though. I support Chelsea, not Mourinho. I want to see a happy Chelsea camp, not this.

Problem is you will neve4 find out and you will have to go with your gut feeling.

If people could actually know what has happened (or is still), there wouldnt be much of a reason for debate...

[Clockwork 1,794]

Reporter is Rob Beasley (quite reliable?), basically repeated what he said in the summer.

the article:http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6725445/Jose-Mourinho-told-Chelsea-to-sign-Gareth-Bale-Raheem-Sterling-and-John-Stones.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-TheSunFootball-_-20151104-_-SunFootballSocial-_-269085493-_-Imageandlink

A close friend revealed: “Jose felt he was being asked to work miracles.

“The club thought he didn’t need any new players, that essentially the same squad could dominate again“But he knew differently. He laughed at the idea but not because he found the situation funny — far from it.

“He knew he needed a fresh injection of talent, he knew he needed to increase competition for places and depth to his squad.

“He knew it was dangerous to stand still and give other sides the opportunity to play catch-up.”Belatedly Chelsea tried to make up for lost time — and they failed. It’s proving an expensive failure, too.

And the man who stands to pay the ultimate price for that failure is not Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich, not chairman Bruce Buck, not main director Marina Granovskaia.

It’s the man who sounded the alarm bells long before a ball was even kicked.

Funny old game, hey? Unless your name is Mourinho.

Rob Beasley is trying to shift the blame from his buddy Mourinho onto the board.

Nothing to see.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,060]

How is this news to anyone here? Even before last season ended, Jose was talking about the need to beef up the squad. He talked about wanting to get the business done early and at one point mentioned needing 3 or 4 players. This from the man that always gives a formulaic 'just one or maybe two" reply when asked about off season squad building. He was going as far as he possibly could to say this squad ain't good enough; which is the one thing all of us here agree on.

The anti-Jose crew didn't listen when I and others pointed this out during the summer, preferring to imagine that Jose was complacent and then blaming him for it. They won't listen now either.

Still, a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest

Even me sometimes I suppose.

[lucio 5,418]

until jose alters his tactics , lineup and formation. this is simply not the case.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Maybe he couldn't win the title again with the same players, we all agree on that probably but we also really shouldn't be sitting right above the relegation zone after 11 matches. Don't think some people realize how bad we truly are atm.

[Miki-Liki 405]

So now supposedly he wanted Bale? Seriously, there was no chance of getting him. We were interested in Sterling (but we know how that ultimately turned out), and chased Stones all Summer, even though Everton have made it clear that they didn't want to sell.

[Fernando 6,585]

Yeah but that's no reason to be relegation form.

Not signing anyone wouldn't have made us crap overnight.

There is a blame with the club for the summer signing, but again that should be no reason for what we are seeing.

[didierforever 7,349]

Yeah but that's no reason to be relegation form.

Not signing anyone wouldn't have made us crap overnight.

There is a blame with the club for the summer signing, but again that should be no reason for what we are seeing.

exactly. blame the board if we cant win the PL and come in 2nd or 3rd or 4th.

how are people blaming the bpard for the current fiasco is beyond me.

[Last Sicarius 610]

THIS.

He is not going to change, but we can change him