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still find it hard to see how we can't score a goal from open play or keep a clean sheet....

I thought he'll park the bus and make us keep clean sheets and grind out resultssince he's a pro at this, but he's not doing this for some reason. If Mourinho made the team practice more team attacking movements since he came, the players would have known what to do when Mourinho's motivational speech isn't working. But instead we're stuck with waiting for Hazard and Costa to come to form before we can score goals from open play in the league :doh:

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I voted Undecided not because I'm on the fence but I believe he deserves to keep the job until the end of the season.

Klopp got to keep his at Dortmund and only left because he wanted to.

He brought us bucketload of titles and accomplishments, as well as elevating a lot of our players into legends.

He deserves a chance to not only save his career but bring this club(which he loves) out of trouble.

On the other hand, if let's say in January we don't go out and rectify our squad issues and he keeps playing Ivanovic in poor form, he's obviously looking to get sacked.

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Do people seriously need to call others 'Mourinho Haters', 'Mourinho Fanboys' or things like that every time? When will people understand that there's always 2 sides to any argument/debate? Have seen both parties post valid points as to why they think Mourinho should be sacked or shouldn't. If you don't agree with them, just agree to disagree. There's no need to feel like you have to convince everyone to agree with you or bash them for daring to have another opinion and more importantly, there's no need to resort to name calling. It will only cause petty squabbles and create a toxic atmosphere in a place that I'm sure many enjoy to be on.

How is "keep mourinho in charge" crowd,derogatory?. You are just clutching at straws and you know it. That statement is no different than saying those who are in favor of the club keeping jose as manager but carry on.

BTW we are still waiting for a solid counter argument to blue color sky and peace posts.

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How is "keep mourinho in charge" crowd,derogatory?. You are just clutching at straws and you know it. That statement is no different than saying those who are in favor of the club keeping jose as manager but carry on.

You're missing the bigger point here. Regardless of whether it was insulting or not, such posts only serve to incite trouble, cause petty squabbles between members etc and these situations are not really desirable. I'm sure you are smart enough to realize that.

BTW we are still waiting for a solid counter argument to blue color sky and peace posts.

That is exactly what I talked about in the previous post. If people want to agree or disagree with the posts, they will do it. You don't have to go around acting as if their views are right (no one is right or wrong here) and anyone who disagrees with it should be condemned. Does nothing but invite trouble.

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What do people expect Terry to say? Does anyone really think he's gonna come out and say "Yeah, he's completely lost the dressing room, and it's obvious he can't get us out of this mess. The earlier he leaves the better." :lol:

His words to the press mean very little about what the mood is in the dressing room.

He could say nothing.

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That is not stability, this is not true.

Stability cannot be attributed to players or managers... They have a relatively short football life-span while clubs last for many generations. For instance, Mourinho coaches for a tad more than 10 years while the club exist for more than 100 years. Players and managers come and go and their profiles change just as regularly. How can such unstable elements bring stability to an entity that out-life them ? They do not and they cannot.

Stability is not human flesh, this is a concept. A concept that transcends players, managers and even presidents. Actually, stability is none other than a clearly identified identity. Barcelona is the perfect example. In ten years they had four managers : Pep, Tito, Tata, Enrique. The players have also changed : only Iniesta, Messi, Alves and Piqué are remaining from Pep's first season. Despite the changes in players, in managers and in presidents, during all these years Barça enjoyed success — aside of Tata's season (where he still was not that far away from winning the league). And they did so while playing with the same identity. Of course their game changed a little bit from year to year. Yet its identity remained the same, i.e. an offensive and good-looking game based upon a highly technical group of players where the collective is greater than the individuality and a desire to do their game no matter the opposition. This clearly identified identity is a major aspect of their constant succes in the last decade, because this identity is shared from the academy to the first team players, and from the supporters to the presidents. That is stability.

Another example : Arsenal and Wenger. During the last decade of his management at Arsenal, the club went from the Invincibles, to a group of teenagers trying to emulate Barcelona, to the actual group of mediocre mid-twenty players that pride itself in finishing fourth. That is not stability. That is a roller-coaster in terms of identity and in terms of results.

Let's go back to Chelsea. Where is the stability ? Where is the identity ? We went from an "ok" game, to a delightful game, to an ugly game, to.... The 16th place. It has also been — and still is — a roller-coaster. If there was no stability since Roman took over, that is not because he sacked managers every new moon. That is because we hired managers that had nothing to do with each other and because we bought players for the sake of it, without any policy. In other words, we were unstable because we did not have any identity. And funnily enough, since the Torres debacle we are trying to build an identity (we mainly bought young, dynamic and up-coming players that are at least decent with the ball)... but it is all going up into smoke as we are speaking.

Right now, the only stable element at the club — in regards to the sportive side — is Ivanovic's starting spot. Sacking Mourinho will only make one thing unstable : Ivanovic's starting spot.

This. Identity is key

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