The Mourinho Thread

[Essien19 1,415]

Replacing Mourinho with his arch rival Guardiola would heat things up.

If i remember correctly, Mourinho said in the past that he would like to stay in England and maybe London.

So its crystal clear what will happen.

Yes, Guardiola knows how to orchestrate a football team but for me he is not better that the portuguese.

Furthermore Guardiola will change the team:

Terry, Cahill, Zouma (bad passing), Azpilicueta (not good enough with going forward) Matic (one dimensional left footy)

Ramires, Mikel, RLC (not good enough with the ball), Fabregas (Guardiola does not rate him anymore), maybe Willian too because of slowing the play down, the list goes on, would have to go.

I don't want that to happen!

Yes, guys like Musonda would get playing time, there would be good things too, but for me not enough.

His 3-5-2 failed miserablely, Van Gaal tested it enough.

If a new guy has to come, i prefer some young and visionary dude, someone like Tuchel from BVB.

But i stay with Jose, he loves the club more than some of his predecessors, you can't buy that!

[bethos1 802]

If he can't make us play decent football by the end of the season I don't see any reason to keep him here, surely 3 seasons is enough to make a team play proper football and not just for 5-6 months like he did last season.

[Spike 12,049]

He managed to ruin KDB, Mata, Oscar, Hazard. He is the special one indeed. Special kind of shit.

He didn't and hasn't ruined any of those players. de Bryune at the time wasn't playing well [even with limited minutes] and just couldn't make the cut; he had no right to be starting over any of the other players. Since he wanted first team game time the only logical conclusion was to sell him. Mata was horrible for 6 months and couldn't get a pass together, he was given much time but couldn't get into form. He also wanted to leave and his wish was granted. Hazard has performed amazingly for the last two seasons and has only hit bad form in the last several months. I don't see in what capacity Mourinho has 'ruined' these players.

Mourinho's modus operandi may not be ideal for those the players but there is no excuse for a player like Mata that was possibly the best player of the 12-13 to become rubbish overnight. Perhaps you don't remember at the time but Mata was bad. Really, really bad. Most people weren't that upset when he was sold for such a large fee. It is only in recent months that people are getting upset because of how Mata has played for van Gaal.

People can blame the manager all they want to but at the end of the day the players are the people that screw up or get it right out on the pitch. =

[Essien19 1,415]

If he can't make us play decent football by the end of the season I don't see any reason to keep him here, surely 3 seasons is enough to make a team play proper football and not just for 5-6 months like he did last season.

It's only fair to make demands, when you are in the driver's seat....who decides who comes and goes?!

I don't think Jose Mourinho has the final say.

After the transfer of Papy Mourinho stated that he didn't know the player, it seems to me that Baba wasn't his idea too, i think that says it all.

That was one of the reasons why he parted ways with Chelsea 2007 (ask Robben, he didn't want him to get sold) and is one of the reasons why Guardiola is most likely to leave Bayern at the end of the season (i'm just the coach, can't make transfers and the club knows how i will decide)

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Do you think Mourinho enjoys this kind of shit that's going down here?!

Is he really so convinced of himself, that an academic and proven winner let his judgement clouds by emotions?

Is he asking himself every day in front of the mirror; how can i be the villain again?!

Surely most of the stuff he tells the media is utter garbage and he knows it too, a man who is able to say things like

(envy is the biggest tribute shadows can do to a man) in a foreign language for him isn't plain stupid!

Maybe it's time for a little trip...

I often eat an fried egg with spinach and vegetables, for getting that done i don't need new fancy ingredients, i don't have to run to the supermarket therefore i save time and most importantly i don't need a new playbook, sorry i mean cookbook.

Simply, the effort keeps within limits but the result is the same; 3 points, sorry i mean fat belly.

Theoretical assumption: i don't have a job and my girlfriend demands a spectacular meal because their family is going to be in town,

but she only gives me little pocket money, but i have to be a good boy and make the most of it, otherwise a cruel punishment is coming...

Should i stick by the stuff which i know or should i go guns blazing and risk it all?

Keeping in mind, that some of the ingredients can't keep up with the taste of the unaffordable ones if a take choice number 2.

Everyone is entitled to have a different opinion about that, for example my father would stick to the first, because he doesn't like to take risks which look like a suicide mission.

My mother seeks the risk, boring is not enough, even if the job would be done and now everything is in shambles because of number 2, lol.

The prices for some ingredients happen for a reason, without some basic quality, only a magician could make it work.

Who is in possession of a magic ward?!

I don't have a problem with Guardiola but instead of making Hojbjerg, Kimmich, Gaudinio great, he often chooses to use Alonso and so on.

Who did he harvested in about ~3 years?! I don't see any new ingredients from their home garden...

Klopp is one of the best coaches in business, but apart from flashes (using championship players like Kirch against Real Madrid, no disrespect meant) without class he can't do it consistently.

Long story short: Give Mourinho guys like Alaba, Stones, Varane (the list goes on) and the form will begin to take shape,

otherwise there will be times where it won't be pretty.

I can only speak for myself, but i like the differences in the style of play and the definition "proper football" is not catholic.^^

It's a specialty from Wenger to justify his constant failure by stating he is still playing proper attacking football for most of the time,

but not during the decisive moments.

No harm meant.

[lucio 5,418]

He didn't and hasn't ruined any of those players. de Bryune at the time wasn't playing well [even with limited minutes] and just couldn't make the cut; he had no right to be starting over any of the other players. Since he wanted first team game time the only logical conclusion was to sell him. Mata was horrible for 6 months and couldn't get a pass together, he was given much time but couldn't get into form. He also wanted to leave and his wish was granted. Hazard has performed amazingly for the last two seasons and has only hit bad form in the last several months. I don't see in what capacity Mourinho has 'ruined' these players.

Mourinho's modus operandi may not be ideal for those the players but there is no excuse for a player like Mata that was possibly the best player of the 12-13 to become rubbish overnight. Perhaps you don't remember at the time but Mata was bad. Really, really bad. Most people weren't that upset when he was sold for such a large fee. It is only in recent months that people are getting upset because of how Mata has played for van Gaal.

People can blame the manager all they want to but at the end of the day the players are the people that screw up or get it right out on the pitch. =

mata had his fair share of good games, for us 13/14. palace , spurs , arsenal off the top of my head. I also remember him playing 2 spectacular passes, only for eto to mess up both. Jose just wasn't interested in him.

[kmk108 1,186]

mata had his fair share of good games, for us 13/14. palace , spurs , arsenal off the top of my head. I also remember him playing 2 spectacular passes, only for eto to mess up both. Jose just wasn't interested in him.

That's how I remember it. Jose didn't like his lack of defensive effort, which hasn't gotten better at United. He said that, until Mata put in more effort, he wasn't going to play.

[lucio 5,418]

That's how I remember it. Jose didn't like his lack of defensive effort, which hasn't gotten better at United. He said that, until Mata put in more effort, he wasn't going to play.

yep , and mata is a poor athlete , was never going to happen.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

mata had his fair share of good games, for us 13/14. palace , spurs , arsenal off the top of my head. I also remember him playing 2 spectacular passes, only for eto to mess up both. Jose just wasn't interested in him.

That's simply not true. Mata got a lot of chances and playing time, at the expense of more deserving players like KDB, one can argue. In the four months under Jose he played in 17 matches. The only good performances he had were against Arsenal in the league cup and the second half vs Spurs when he came off the bench. And it wasn't JUST about his defensive work, either. He kept getting dispossessed and pushed over every time he got the ball on the right wing in most of the other matches. He struggled really badly with having to receive the ball with his back to a defender.

[Adnane 1,101]

People often forget that Mata is more dispossesed than Fabregas, and is physically, really, really weak.

This kind of players need protection to succeed, or team tactics built around them and only for them to shine, like Benitez did with Mata.

I'd rather see José give Hazard the freedom he did in the last two seasons ( relative freedom, we have to admit ), than build all our game around Mata and make players like Hazard and Oscar defend for him ( like Benitez did ).

Because simply put, Hazard is 10 times a better footballer than Mata, and we can only have one of that kind of players with freedom with out ageing and slow defense.

José is dealing with what he inherited, deal with it yourself now...

[LukakutoStamford 779]

Blame it on Eva

Blame it on Iva

Blame it on the MIA

Don't blame it on Jose

Blame it on Schlong Terry

Blame it on UEFA

Blame it in FA

Don't blame it on Jose

[xPetrCechx 13,598]

[xPetrCechx 13,598]

[Essien19 1,415]

Excuse me, but this expert named Hamann knows absolutely nothing!

Last year Guardiola was on his way to City, almost done, Bayern without a Chance against Porto in the second leg and the list could continue.

I can do it all day, lol.

I normally respect former professional players and their opinions, but this dude, i'm done!

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Good ol' English media.

[Henrique 9,133]

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[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Okay, I want him gone aswell but Dietmar Hamann is an absolute cunt and one of the worst pundits I've ever had the 'pleasure' of hearing.

[Amblève. 4,995]

Replacing Mourinho with his arch rival Guardiola would heat things up.

If i remember correctly, Mourinho said in the past that he would like to stay in England and maybe London.

So its crystal clear what will happen.

Yes, Guardiola knows how to orchestrate a football team but for me he is not better that the portuguese.

Furthermore Guardiola will change the team:

Terry, Cahill, Zouma (bad passing), Azpilicueta (not good enough with going forward) Matic (one dimensional left footy)

Ramires, Mikel, RLC (not good enough with the ball), Fabregas (Guardiola does not rate him anymore), maybe Willian too because of slowing the play down, the list goes on, would have to go.

I don't want that to happen!

Yes, guys like Musonda would get playing time, there would be good things too, but for me not enough.

His 3-5-2 failed miserablely, Van Gaal tested it enough.

If a new guy has to come, i prefer some young and visionary dude, someone like Tuchel from BVB.

But i stay with Jose, he loves the club more than some of his predecessors, you can't buy that!

Brilliant. Seems like Mourinho's love affair with sticking with the same ol' players has rubbed off on his fans and worshippers, too.

[11Drogba 2,000]

We will know what the board and Mourinho think in January. If the board brings the players he wants then it would mean that they are actually behind him, otherwise we will see more bad results and tantrums.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Brilliant. Seems like Mourinho's love affair with sticking with the same ol' players has rubbed off on his fans and worshippers, too.

So you'd change Matic, Zouma, RLC, Azpi and Willian?

Interesting....but hey it's Mourinho's cult apparently!

[Essien19 1,415]

Brilliant. Seems like Mourinho's love affair with sticking with the same ol' players has rubbed off on his fans and worshippers, too.

Yes, i'm in the Mourinho corner or as you said i'm one of his worshippers, lol.

Is it that bad, is it a crime?!

Blue_Fox already said it perfectly, i don't want Zouma and so on gone!

Now i give it a try, what would you change?

Buy a lot of new players, a new manager and during the season a restart has to happen?

For me that's not necessary, not today.