Jokesy 53 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Apparently Klopp has agreed to take over at Liverpool.So should we all start crying now? Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 And as expected the "keep mourinho in charge" crowd have ignored bluecolorsky and peace excellent post in the last two pages. I will love to see your response to those two posts in particular. Belgiannutt and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 No he shouldn't be sacked, he is partly to blame for our current form. But please don't forget that the board absolutely messed up this summer with the transfers and the post season tour, in combination with the EPL starting a week earlier and us getting back to preseason 1 week later than normal. 1 week later to preseason and with the league starting 1 week earlier is missing 2 weeks of preparation. This was a big fail. These players are all millionaires, how can they suddenly be so bad? Don't tell me that's because Jose lost the dressing room, because these players have been bad since preseason and community shield. We lost Drogba - a big motivator in the dressing room, you should replace this with quality players. Who to blame for our current form:Board: 40% (transfers, stupid post season tour)Jose: 30% (stubborn team selections, not changing tactics, scapegoating squad players)Players: 20% (lack of motivation, lack of balls to fight for the club and supporters)Luck: 10% (injuries, DD's decision to leave) During the summer break, some members on here and I have constantly posted in the ''Summer Transfer Window - Likely Ins and Outs'' thread. We said the lack of activity was really worrying in the summer, cause we saw the weaknesses in our squad and Mourinho also saw this. We needed a CM and a defender, here is what Jose said in May/June: “We have to improve. If we have the same team the other teams will be better than us,” Mourinho said.“If I keep Eden Hazard, Nemanja Matic, Branislav Ivanovic, Diego Costa and Cesc Fabregas – for us that’s the first target.”“I think we need three (new) players. A striker because we lost our legend (Didier Drogba), a defender and a midfield player.”“It will give a little bit more competitiveness to the squad, bring some new blood in, put some players a little bit under pressure. They know they have someone waiting, I need that to support my way of working.”“Now they’re the champions I need that but basically the same squad, the same team, the same manager and stability in the club.”http://www.thehardtackle.com/2015/jose-mourinho-confirms-chelsea-fc-to-sign-three-new-players/http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9863904/jose-mourinho-eyes-premier-league-title-defence-with-new-additionsIt's really a shame, that the board didn't back him with chasing his targets. We only got Falcao, but our 2 main weaknesses remained unsolved: defense and midfield. They only started to believe strengthening was needed after the Arsenal and City thrashings, but it was already too late. Pedro was just a lucky catch but not a priority. Djilobodji come on..he was rejected by the likes of Sunderland. I'd say the board has truly no ambitions, we were decent in the EPL, but if you want to chase the Champions league it was clear that we lacked quality in the games vs Atletico Madrid and PSG. You know what type of manager you're hiring, Jose won't suddenly use a lot of youngsters, you need to give him his transfers to get the best out of him. 5 full seasons under Jose, 3 league titles. He hasn't lost it as he won the double last year, you got to back him with transfers if you want to keep on winning.''some people in the club should resume their responsibilities'' - this was directed at those who are doing the transfers, cause they failed massively. I honestly expect a sack during or at the end of the season as he finally has hit criticized the board, but I won't solely blame him for this season's failure. Kieran. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 And as expected the "keep mourinho in charge" crowd have ignored bluecolorsky and peace excellent post in the last two pages. I will love to see your response to those two posts in particular.Mourinho should have gone today - how he survived that fucking meeting I will never know.But he now knows the writings on the wall.You're never going to change the minds of Jose fan boys - so I don't even bother anymore. I just want what's best for Chelsea FC and this 'toxic' dude is not it. What happened to the happy one? The I will play 'youth' one.The season is now fucked - so what have we got to lose - change the fucking formation, start playing the players with form and start playing attacking football. But we all know what's coming. More boring defending (or lack of it), more blame on the referee, medical staff, gardener or maybe the lighting! Last year it was the fans... My how that escalated quickly... lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,187 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Think the writing is on the wall Mourinho is on borrowed time. I just can't see us turning it around. We have now conceded two more goals then we did in the whole of 2004-5. The team were bereft of any ideas yesterday and Southampton picked us off at will. Bit of a cliche but it's stick or twist with Mourinho and personally i think there's a dark cloud surrounding the club which Mourinho has caused. What he did with Matic yesterday was baffling and will only cause more resentment among the players. I have to say it was a desperate act and is something that's going to haunt Matic for the rest of his career. Why the fuck never mind buying him in the first place did Falcao start yesterday?. Everyone raised an eyebrow when we bought Falcao he was no point in sugar coating it shit for Man United last year. What did Mourinho think 'Yes i'm the man who can make him great again''. Well the answer to that is a definite no he's utterly passed it. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Imo:Who to blame for our current form:Board: 20% Jose: 20% Players: 50%Other Things: 10% (injuries, No leader, general decisions) stroey and k33m575 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empire of emotions 247 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 IF he plats Ivanovic AGAIN next week then Jose has truly lost it.we're gonna saying this in december too mate Blue Colored Sky and lucio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 No he shouldn't be sacked, he is partly to blame for our current form. But please don't forget that the board absolutely messed up this summer with the transfers and the post season tour, in combination with the EPL starting a week earlier and us getting back to preseason 1 week later than normal. 1 week later to preseason and with the league starting 1 week earlier is missing 2 weeks of preparation. This was a big fail. These players are all millionaires, how can they suddenly be so bad? Don't tell me that's because Jose lost the dressing room, because these players have been bad since preseason and community shield. We lost Drogba - a big motivator in the dressing room, you should replace this with quality players. Who to blame for our current form:Board: 40% (transfers, stupid post season tour)Jose: 30% (stubborn team selections, not changing tactics, scapegoating squad players)Players: 20% (lack of motivation, lack of balls to fight for the club and supporters)Luck: 10% (injuries, DD's decision to leave) During the summer break, some members on here and I have constantly posted in the ''Summer Transfer Window - Likely Ins and Outs'' thread. We said the lack of activity was really worrying in the summer, cause we saw the weaknesses in our squad and Mourinho also saw this. We needed a CM and a defender, here is what Jose said in May/June: http://www.thehardtackle.com/2015/jose-mourinho-confirms-chelsea-fc-to-sign-three-new-players/http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9863904/jose-mourinho-eyes-premier-league-title-defence-with-new-additionsIt's really a shame, that the board didn't back him with chasing his targets. We only got Falcao, but our 2 main weaknesses remained unsolved: defense and midfield. They only started to believe strengthening was needed after the Arsenal and City thrashings, but it was already too late. Pedro was just a lucky catch but not a priority. Djilobodji come on..he was rejected by the likes of Sunderland. I'd say the board has truly no ambitions, we were decent in the EPL, but if you want to chase the Champions league it was clear that we lacked quality in the games vs Atletico Madrid and PSG. You know what type of manager you're hiring, Jose won't suddenly use a lot of youngsters, you need to give him his transfers to get the best out of him. 5 full seasons under Jose, 3 league titles. He hasn't lost it as he won the double last year, you got to back him with transfers if you want to keep on winning.''some people in the club should resume their responsibilities'' - this was directed at those who are doing the transfer, cause they failed massively. I honestly expect a sack during or at the end of the season as he finally has hit criticized the board, but I won't solely blame him for this season's failure. Dude seriously?The blame is 100% Mourinho Why would the board back him when he's bought and sold 4 wingers, Felipe Luis who he never played etc!Mourinho is a fucking joke in the transfer market - his signings are always shite (except Drogba)I dont blame them Mourinho has alienated the team and no fucker wants to play for him - why? Because they know what a complete cock he is being - blames everything except himself That is not a leader - that is not a Manager - that is a selfish, arrogant, egotistical, narcissistic maniac and people are rightly fucking sick of it.The guy is now a walking embarrassment and needs to fuck off from my beloved club quick sharp - he is ruining it. Iggy Doonican, Mana, couris and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki-Liki 405 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 And then we are angry when people call Chelsea fans plastic. A lot of comments here are completely plastic. You act like you are always with the team when they win but when they lose it's not "us" but it's "they". Nothing more to say.That's our manager. When we win, he claims to be the best. When we lose, the team is bad, the referees are awful, but he still claims to be the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 We are stable at being unstable.We are consistent at being inconsistent. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokesy 53 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 That's our manager. When we win, he claims to be the best. When we lose, the team is bad, the referees are awful, but he still claims to be the best.You read into the media so much.That's the first step to being plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 You read into the media so much.That's the first step to being plastic.Dude, he actually says those things. They're on tape. Muzchap and Miki-Liki 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted October 4, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 4, 2015 I Want this days back... Roquila, lucio, Blue Armour and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Players deserve better? Are u kidding me?When we sold Luiz 50, Kdb 18 and Mata 42 milion we were over the moon and now u are telling me the opposite side?? Come on. The club failed to bring some fresh legs here. That's it. Abramovich would be pulling the trigger if Mourinho wasn't our manager. The players are showing the lack of passion for this club.Its not good enough from the players. I think we missed Costa a little bit tonight. Im fully backing The club in this worst moment. This season is showing to us who are the really fans and the fake ones. couris, mediator, Bosnian Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 He tried to support them and gave them playing time to recover but they didn't give a fuck... People don't need to like Mourinho but a blind hate is stupid.People threw Ancelotti's name... the one that almost every one of us wanted him to get out of chelsea asaf? or the one that won only 3 titles in 18 years (Jose 8 from 12)?Nah. People want Stability,continuity, tradition... this are very beautiful word. till now, the only tradition we have is to sack our manger every 2 seasons and blame him first for any bad performance.this is the opposite of Stability.how can u not understand something so simple. u CANT keep playing the same under-performing players and expect a different result. ivanovic is TRYING. u cant doubt iva's heart in this. but he is past it. how can u keep playing him and expect a different result.how can u put mane vs iva plus cesc in the mid and expect us to win. IT IS NOT THE PLAYER's FAULT. blind hate. the guy just turned a blind eye to the whole squad for his 2 favourites. said "fuck off" to matic, and u want sympathy for him?people wanted ancelotti out? seriously? well, i thought the sacking of carlo was one of the worst decisions we had made. again... how are u not getting that the MAIN CAUSE OF OUR BAD PERFORMANCES is JOSE. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 And then we are angry when people call Chelsea fans plastic. A lot of comments here are completely plastic. You act like you are always with the team when they win but when they lose it's not "us" but it's "they". Nothing more to say.This deserves to be quoted a lot.I swear some people are enjoying this way too much. xPetrCechx, Tautvix and k33m575 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Partridge 1,124 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Keep Jose Buy players in jan that we need for positions we are lacking in. Even if we have to pay over the odds, just get it done! xPetrCechx, yuvala and TheIceMan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokesy 53 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I Want this days back... I really missed them Ballack, Drogba et al. Those guys never lacked passion or determination. They were all serial winners. Most of these new guys lack these attributes. xPetrCechx, Blue_Fox_, didierforever and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Cosmin 2,484 Posted October 4, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 4, 2015 Besides the poor results and performances, what bothers me is the lack of reaction from the board regarding Mourinho's statements. I understand that he was granted total control and freedom in matters of speech and decisions. But he's taken it way too far already. It's bad for the image of the club, it's bad for the atmosphere in the locker room. Someone from our board or maybe even Mr. Abramovich, should make him understand that he's not bigger than the club and by what he says in the media he damages the atmosphere and the performances. It's not mind games anymore, he's pathetic. Amblève., Bosnian Blue, Stats and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! herzogian 148 Posted October 4, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 4, 2015 This deserves to be quoted a lot.I swear some people are enjoying this way too much.This division between plastic, fake fans and real fans is plain stupid. Define a real Chelseafan? Everyone is fan of the club for his or her own reasons. Some are here because they followed Chelsea for twenty years others because they have become a fan last year, some because of a certain player they like etc... Those are all valid reasons which doesn't make one fan better than another. If some people on here are criticizing the manager that doesn't mean they are 'plastic fans' either, no it means they want some changes so the club can become better. They may be wrong in their reasoning but it doenst make them anything less of a 'true fan'. Belgiannutt, didierforever, Stats and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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