The Mourinho Thread

[Leif 6,006]

Secondly, how old are you? If you feel people are trying to personally bring you down on a FORUM, then maybe you need to grow up

This isn't the case at all, but do you believe in cyber bullying? Or do you believe it's a myth? If you think you can't be brought down on a forum, well, that's your opinion so i'm not going to question your age for it am i?

[Viper22 2,418]

You're touching on 2 different things, without adding anything to what I said, or what the topic is about, or what anyone in here is talking about. Don't fish for likes. Message me if you have a question.

I'm addressing you because every thread in this forum I see your posts. And they all come across as incredibly self righteous and negative.

If I was fishing for likes I'd have called out TheBlueGuy by now for or posted some insulting comment towards Lionsden (they would both be pretty popular I wager) or even quoted my positive posts from before the match.

My question about whether you support the team at all is because following a match (arguably one of the most important of our season so far) against one of our biggest rivals no less, we won with a clean sheet and without being truly troubled at any time. I'm not going to insult your intelligence by suggesting that you don't understand how good of a tactical display that was considering that while Utd had so much possession it was almost all in their own half or curtailed into cul-de-sacs that they couldn't get through which resulted in (barring a few mistakes from Matic, Ivan and Zouma) Utd having no control of the game, no clear cut chances and maybe 1 or 2 half chances if that.

So on the back of all of that (coupled with one of our players having contributed to 15 goals in the last 17 games) and the fact that we have we have essentially won the Premier League and Cup double the only thing some people can do is come on here and moan. Why? Seriously, why? To me someone who supports a team would want them to win and would celebrate when they do, but I have the horrible feeling that The Skipper (or was it Special Juan?) is right, I can only imagine that there were some people going into the last few minutes in that game begging for Utd to score so they could have fuel for their agenda.

I'm not saying you (or anyone else) did that but with the way some people (you included) act sometimes I wouldn't be surprised. I find it incredibly worrying that people almost want to feel like there's something to moan about and I just want you to feel a bit happier about what is a fantastic result for the club and so by extension its fans.

[Leif 6,006]

My question about whether you support the team at all is because following a match (arguably one of the most important of our season so far) against one of our biggest rivals no less, we won with a clean sheet and without being truly troubled at any time. I'm not going to insult your intelligence by suggesting that you don't understand how good of a tactical display that was considering that while Utd had so much possession it was almost all in their own half or curtailed into cul-de-sacs that they couldn't get through which resulted in (barring a few mistakes from Matic, Ivan and Zouma) Utd having no control of the game, no clear cut chances and maybe 1 or 2 half chances if that. So on the back of all of that (coupled with one of our players having contributed to 15 goals in the last 17 games) and the fact that we have we have essentially won the Premier League and Cup double the only thing some people can do is come on here and moan. Why? Seriously, why? To me someone who supports a team would want them to win and would celebrate when they do, but I have the horrible feeling that The Skipper (or was it Special Juan?) is right, I can only imagine that there were some people going into the last few minutes in that game begging for Utd to score so they could have fuel for their agenda. I'm not saying you (or anyone else) did that but with the way some people (you included) act sometimes I wouldn't be surprised. I find it incredibly worrying that people almost want to feel like there's something to moan about and I just want you to feel a bit happier about what is a fantastic result for the club and so by extension its fans.

I WASN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE GAME, WHY ARE YOU INSULTING ME OVER MY SUPPOSED LACK OF ENTHUSIASM OVER A WIN? WHY ARE YOU INSINUATING I DONT UNDERSTAND TACTICS? I WAS ELATED WITH OUR WIN WITH NOT TOO MANY QUALMS OVER THE TACTICS DEPLOYED LOL. YOU ARE LOST? WHY ARE YOU SAYING ALL THIS? IM NOT A TRUE SUPPORTER BECAUSE IM FED UP OF MOCKERY ON A FORUM????

If your reply isn't in a PM i'm reporting you for spam LOL. You're having a very random discussion that is nothing to do with what i'm talking about, and continuing this will only make people laugh and wish the conversation ended sooner.

[Viper22 2,418]

I WASN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE GAME, WHY ARE YOU INSULTING ME OVER MY SUPPOSED LACK OF ENTHUSIASM OVER A WIN? I WAS ELATED WITH OUR WIN WITH NOT TOO MANY QUALMS OVER THE TACTICS DEPLOYED LOL. YOU ARE LOST? WHY ARE YOU SAYING ALL THIS?

"So on the back of all of that (coupled with one of our players having contributed to 15 goals in the last 17 games) and the fact that we have we have essentially won the Premier League and Cup double the only thing some people can do is come on here and moan. Why? Seriously, why? To me someone who supports a team would want them to win and would celebrate when they do, but I have the horrible feeling that The Skipper (or was it Special Juan?) is right, I can only imagine that there were some people going into the last few minutes in that game begging for Utd to score so they could have fuel for their agenda.".

My point was that you could have talked about any of the things I mentioned previously, but you chose to come on and have a dig at the people teasing the 'negativity brigade' with posts like "Rafa In" or "Mou Out". You chose to moan about something rather than mention that you appreciated the tactics or are happy with the win. That was my issue.

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

Hope Mourinho doesn't leave Chelsea anytime soon

[Leif 6,006]

but you chose to come on and have a dig at the people teasing the 'negativity brigade' with posts like "Rafa In" or "Mou Out". You chose to moan about something rather than mention that you appreciated the tactics or are happy with the win. That was my issue.

I'm not having a dig. I'm highlighting an actual concern about the forum. I'll edit my post into the Feedback thread.

[Barbara 15,149]

Today "park the bus" was acceptable but against QPR or Hull . NO......... Brana managed to make Young and Shaw look like Best and Roberto Carlos

but people should be able to tell parking the pass and allowing possession as two different things.

We gave them the ball, but we limited their actions with it. We had average of 30% of possession, but I read Seb saying in his twitter account that most of our possession was in their half... the same place where the outstanding majority of their possession was: in their own field. So while we had the ball we were mostly in the attack while they were passing backwards and to the sides because we limited them. No bus was parked, it was a tactical plan that worked very well even if we didn't look amazing.

Also I think Ivanovic had a very good match defensively... I don't know how he made those players look above their level.

The title is the only thing that matters now, if people are patient enough, better football will come with time because it needs to be nurtured, you just don't set up a team from night to day, especially if you have long term domination as a goal.

[LAM09 7,043]

He knows how to set up a team to get the job done. It mightn't be pretty sometimes, but the result is what truly matters.

[Thor 2,688]

I'm stoked about the win, but some of you are over the top with praise.

"Set up perfectly" and "know how to win" are so over played... He set the team up the exact same way we've been playing recently. Overly defensively without much thought for penetration or attack, and on one of our few presses forward we did happen to score. Nothing too special about this performance apart from the points and opponent.

We're becoming a one trick pony. People know how we're going to set up before the game. I hope it is due to anxiousness and the desire of wanting to finally win again in the league again, and only that. That way, maybe we'll open up again and play some more free flowing football again, which is actually far more suited to us then sitting back with the players we have.

[iseah100 5,612]

Don't care. We won.

[Thor 2,688]

Don't care. We won.

That is good, and true, but some of us care about building a base, and general style of play which can eventually transform and build onto dominance.

Playing like this, will never prepare us for greater things, and push us to build on anything against far better teams than current Manchester United. I for one, want us to become a team in the same realm as Real, Bayern and Barca, where no matter where they go, they play their game. All those teams tweak things going to opposition home grounds at times, and at times playing slightly more defensively, etc, but not to the extent where they give up their identity.

We have all the tools and pieces to do that in the EPL. I never said that is something we should do in the Champions League yet, against Real, Bayern or Barca, but we should still have been able to do it against a team like PSG.

We had that going for us from 2005-2009ish. We went anywhere and played our game. At times, eased back, at times we pressed hard. Not close to the case now, yet you could argue our team is further in front in terms of balance and the gap between our opposition.

[DDA 9,924]

That is good, and true, but some of us care about building a base, and general style of play which can eventually transform and build onto dominance.

Playing like this, will never prepare us for greater things, and push us to build on anything against far better teams than current Manchester United. I for one, want us to become a team in the same realm as Real, Bayern and Barca, where no matter where they go, they play their game. All those teams tweak things going to opposition home grounds at times, and at times playing slightly more defensively, etc, but not to the extent where they give up their identity.

We have all the tools and pieces to do that in the EPL. I never said that is something we should do in the Champions League yet, against Real, Bayern or Barca, but we should still have been able to do it against a team like PSG.

We had that going for us from 2005-2009ish. We went anywhere and played our game. At times, eased back, at times we pressed hard. Not close to the case now, yet you could argue our team is further in front in terms of balance and the gap between our opposition.

Bravo