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read some rumorus from suspect sources that we are in talks for badiashile who is left footed as well and and half a foot taller than ake. have not seen him play much but at 21 he already has about 100 ligue 1 matches under his belt

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24 minutes ago, We Hate Scouse said:

Doesn't Guehi have one too 

 

22 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I agree. We can only hope this will slowly become a thing of the past going forward. We have enough regrets with a number of players in the USA.  

Same deal as Ake (matching clause). I had forgotten about that.

Guehi was a matching clause. Ake was a buy back clause for £40m.

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14 minutes ago, Mário César said:

https://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/raphinha-ve-barca-14049068

off to barça sadly 

so... without raphinha, which player we will buy to improve our attack?

And you believe this source automatically? 

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top valued left footed CB's

in T-Markt order

 

bold I rate to buy possibly, if not now, maybe down the road as well


Alessandro Bastoni (needs to improve IMHO, he regressed last season)
David Alaba  
Pau Torres  
Lucas Hernández 
Aymeric Laporte  (big rebound last season, would take him over Ake ALL day long)
Presnel Kimpembe (maybe)
Gabriel   (crazy he is valued above the next two)
Josko Gvardiol   (plays most times at centre CB in back 3)
Nico Schlotterbeck  (ffs, still steaming we missed him)

Lisandro Martínez    dwarf, only 1.75m
Evan Ndicka   
Benoît Badiashile  
Sven Botman  
Tyrone Mings  
Nathan Aké   
Iñigo Martínez   
Gonçalo Inácio    young
Castello Lukeba   
Mario Hermoso   
Mohammed Salisu   
Moussa Niakhaté
Abdou Diallo maybe  (would make a decent LB option for a backup as well) 
Federico Dimarco  
Piero Hincapié   
Marcos Senesi  
Alessio Romagnoli  
Max Kilman
David Carmo    
Attila Szalai  

 

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4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

top valued left footed CB's

in T-Markt order

 

bold I rate to buy possibly, if not now, maybe down the road as well


Alessandro Bastoni (needs to improve IMHO, he regressed last season)
David Alaba  
Pau Torres  
Lucas Hernández 
Aymeric Laporte  (big rebound last season, would take him over Ake ALL day long)
Presnel Kimpembe (maybe)
Gabriel   (crazy he is valued above the next two)
Josko Gvardiol   (plays most times at centre CB in back 3)
Nico Schlotterbeck  (ffs, still steaming we missed him)

Lisandro Martínez    dwarf, only 1.75m
Evan Ndicka   
Benoît Badiashile  
Sven Botman  
Tyrone Mings  
Nathan Aké   
Iñigo Martínez   
Gonçalo Inácio    young
Castello Lukeba   
Mario Hermoso   
Mohammed Salisu   
Moussa Niakhaté
Abdou Diallo maybe  (would make a decent LB option for a backup as well) 
Federico Dimarco  
Piero Hincapié   
Marcos Senesi  
Alessio Romagnoli  
Max Kilman
David Carmo    
Attila Szalai  

 

It's crazy how almost all of those are so much better than Ake

Also we did not even try for Botman who moved to Newcastle.

Of those we have not been linked with yet i am a fan of ndicka and salisu. athletic beasts both of them and increasingly reliabel despite their young age.

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1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

Never bought that narrative. We can’t be buying shit players to give youngsters who maybe one day might be good enough a clear pathway 

On an actual maybe like Maatsen or even Broja i'd agree but Colwill is Reece 2019 levels of next to certainty.

1 hour ago, Duppy Conqueror said:

I see it as the opposite. Gvardiol is Silva’s replacement if we signed him but good enough to start at LCB until then.

Ake and Colwill i only see as being LCB if they were to become regular starters.

 

43 minutes ago, Vesper said:

most of his games he played at centre CB (7 games very early on at left wing back as well, not left CB, but was strictly a CB after the first part of the season)

30 games, 27 starts at centre CB , 1 at RIGHT CB (all listed below) and 2 where he came in as a sub at centre CB

probably would have been 34, as they play 4 less league games than the other big 5

we also have no idea how Colwill will adapt

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 I was basing my post on the rumours assumption TT wants to revert to back 4 as @MoroccanBlue touched up on.

Apologies should have made that clearer.

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14 minutes ago, Vesper said:

😿

I'm curious why do You rate Tomori so high?

He had a good peroid, but I remember him rather error-prone, lost and slow decision making (lack of experience perhaps) and not very good on the ball. Didn't he improve in Milan, where he can be more conventional CB and it's less demanding in tactical discipline, but it doesn't really translate to his usefulness here?

Geniuenly curious, as I liked the guy, yet he's a move that I don't really regret.

 

I'd like a CB to inspire confidence like Koulibaly does and him + AC would rather inspire my heart skipping a heartbeat (and perhaps Kepa's too) every time they were near the ball. I also remember Baka doing well in Milan. And Piątek. So maybe Milan is not valid measure of quality. Hell, Lukaku was doing well in Inter, so maybe this city is not valid as a whole, lol

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Just now, Vegetable said:

I'm curious why do You rate Tomori so high?

He had a good peroid, but I remember him rather error-prone, lost and slow decision making (lack of experience perhaps) and not very good on the ball. Didn't he improve in Milan, where he can be more conventional CB and it's less demanding in tactical discipline, but it doesn't really translate to his usefulness here?

Geniuenly curious, as I liked the guy, yet he's a move that I don't really regret

you cant teach that sort of speed

and he is vastly better on the ball now

he just need regular playing time

Lampard made all our CB's look like shit

I think he will end up being a stellar CB in Serie A

he already was a huge reason in Milan winning the Scudetto and made some first team all league sides

a bit gutted we never got to see him under Tuchel for a full season, but NOTHING like when we sold de Bruyne with no buyback🤬

I will take that to my grave

but oh well, best of luck to Tomori, not bitter at all, I wish him well

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9 minutes ago, Tomo said:

On an actual maybe like Maatsen or even Broja i'd agree but Colwill is Reece 2019 levels of next to certainty.

 

 I was basing my post on the rumours assumption TT wants to revert to back 4 as @MoroccanBlue touched up on.

Apologies should have made that clearer.

Wow, that is good to hear and quite a statement to make. I have not seen enought of him to express this level of confidence but if you say so I will take your word for it. 19y.o. RJ was one of the best players ever to play in the championship and I called him becoming world class before he ever kicked a ball for our senior team. I really hope you are right.

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6 minutes ago, Mário César said:

If he want so much to join barça, don't make sense think about him

lets forget it 

yes, fuck it

the Dembele situ is what kills me

especially ON A FREE

ffs

he would have been a terror setting up Sterling and Kai, etc etc

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