hazard21 1 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Another example :broja situation we haven’t a clear striker and he wants to leave …why ? Because tuchel has not pull obviously Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, DDA said: Oh fuck off is it Todd Bohelys fault. He has walked into a stemming pile of shit called Chelsea FC. This club has been run badly for years now.. let's now put this down to Bohely. With little to no help he has pulled off Sterling and KK in his first few months of taking over. These scrubs want to play for Barca because its FC Barcelona. Nothing anyone can do. Good post, although I would have to say if Boehly and Tuchel had done more earlier then Kounde would have already been a Chelsea player at the start of pre-season so in that way it is their fault. More Tuchel's than Boehly's because the former chose the alternative targets (De Ligt, Aké) for whom a lot of valuable time and resources were used. If the club had been more decisive and gone after Kounde earlier he wouldn't even have had other options to choose from because the deal would've been long concluded before Barca could even pull any of their infamous 'financial levers'. Surely he'd not have waited around for more than a month to see if Laporta comes good with their promise of eventually going after him. Just now, Hermione said: Absolutely nonsense, the only reason he got those 2 is because no one else was in for them, even the Napoli president admitted if Barcelona for in for KK he would be in Spain now. De Laurentiis said nothing of the sort. He said the exact opposite actually, that Barcelona were indeed after Koulibaly but were told to fuck right off due to the fact they had no money. “I let Koulibaly go because he asked me to,” De Laurentiis told Radio Kiss Kiss Napoli. “Barcelona had come in, but they didn’t have the money because they are in debt. Then Chelsea came forward and we couldn’t say no to someone like Koulibaly, despite the fact I tried in every possible way to keep him, offering €6m per season net. “But if a player wants a new experience at a prestigious club, in the biggest league in the world, you have to recognise what he’s given you and not put up walls.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Special Juan said: We have proper and totally fucked with by Barcelona, wow, just wow. Never in my life have I seen one club pied like this in my life, I'm embarrsed for us. Is it confirmed that Kounde will join Barca? If so, it won't surprise any of us I think. Barcelona are, and probably always will be, a far bigger club than Chelsea. If they genuinely want a player also targeted by us, that player will virtually always choose them. Nothing even slightly humiliating about it. Just a fact of the football world. There is nothing new about this either. We wanted Ronaldinho, they took him. We scouted and wooed Neymar for a long time. As soon as Barca came in he lost all interest in us. Not that he was overly keen anyway after Pele told him to avoid us like the plague. Barca have in fact been very clever and have used their power very well. They have allowed us to be the stalking horse in negotiations with clubs and players then, once we'd established the acceptable figures, they've come along and tried to use the fact that the player is 100% committed to them over us to negotiate down from the numbers we'd agreed. It's just good business. Leeds could see what they were doing and were having none of it but good work Barca for trying. Edited July 24, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 This is stupid now. Stop chasing a player who clearly doesn't and from sounds won't be coming here. We know how it ends...cut away from it and move on. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,874 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 De Ligt, Raphinha, and now Kounde. WTF happenend to Chelsea? Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, Hermione said: Another Boehly masterclass, not that I'm angry we lost out on Kounde but takes some effort from Todd to humiliate us again and again. Todd is an experienced business head and won't panic. Nor should he. It'll take time to work our way out of this. Silly attempts at quick fixes are not required nor, I hope, wanted by genuine Blues fans. The contracts which are causing us difficulties will eventually run out even if we can't solve them before then. Stay calm and find good players that bigger clubs don't want. Retool the squad then start working our way up the food chain. Let's avoid the mistake of pressuring the board for silly, emotional, reasons. DDA and Alabama 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,194 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Valdo said: long gone lure of greatness which RM and FCB have. Real just won the CL and are loading up with talent their brand new 1 billion euro stadium renovation is soon done (completely finished by mid 2023 at the latest) as well Mbappe will be there after his PSG 435 million euro 3 year deal is done (he will sign for RM when he is 26 years old, so they will get 5, 6 peak years out of him) they do not look too 'long gone' to me Edited July 24, 2022 by Vesper Blue Armour and OhForAGreavsie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,194 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nero said: De Ligt, Raphinha, and now Kounde. WTF happenend to Chelsea? bigger clubs sunk in the old bovver boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted July 24, 2022 Popular Post! Share Posted July 24, 2022 29 minutes ago, hazard21 said: Another example :broja situation we haven’t a clear striker and he wants to leave …why ? Because tuchel has not pull obviously I see some 1 put another 20p In you. No pull no pull no pull your like a fucking broken shit sounded trash talking idiot record. FmL you couldn't pull yourself never mind Any 1 eles! Your no Chelsea fan you posts say it all. Probs some Barca fan comming in to troll it's pathetic. Hermione, manpe, Boycie and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nero said: De Ligt, Raphinha, and now Kounde. WTF happenend to Chelsea? This is nothing new. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! BenjaminBlue 33 Posted July 24, 2022 Popular Post! Share Posted July 24, 2022 I’m not saying this is going to happen, but Tuchel is hitting the part in the “cycle” where things go wrong. In my personal opinion if that does happen I hope the club will back him over the players so we can finally break that cycle DDA, Superblue, manpe and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 It will take time for us to implement the 'Liverpool' model and of course we need a DOF for that. This season will be a write off... and if TT does manage to get us top 4 considering the strengthening Arsneal and Spurs have made... then give that man a lifelong contract. I know patience isn't our fan bases greatest attribute but patience is what we will need. Laylabelle, Blue Armour, YorkshireBlue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Hermione said: This is all good but I feel we will panic in the coming weeks and get some average joes to fill the squad. Hope I'm wrong. I hope you're wrong too. If you are not it will be a doubly but outlook. Not only will it fail to solve the situation, it will also suggest that the people in charge are not of the right calibre to fix the problems. I see no reason to doubt that they are capable people so I would hate to be disillusioned this quickly. I believe that they'll stay calm, work through the issues and set us on a better path. Edited July 24, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie Hermione 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,194 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kong said: I see some 1 put another 20p In you. No pull no pull no pull your like a fucking broken shit sounded trash talking idiot record. FmL you couldn't pull yourself never mind Any 1 eles! Your no Chelsea fan you posts say it all. Probs some Barca fan comming in to troll it's pathetic. they are The No Pull Troll 😂 YorkshireBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, DDA said: It will take time for us to implement the 'Liverpool' model and of course we need a DOF for that. This season will be a write off... and if TT does manage to get us top 4 considering the strengthening Arsneal and Spurs have made... then give that man a lifelong contract. I know patience isn't our fan bases greatest attribute but patience is what we will need. Last season we had 5 tournaments to juggle, an unprecented ownership crisis and an injury crisis that in itself would have crippled most teams. Still made top 4 despite that while the two teams chasing us (if you can call it that) had relative good luck with injury and only to the league to focus on in the business end. Unless he does a Conte and jacks it in we'll always get top 4 at a minimum under TT, last season was the perfect storm to knock him and us out of it and they still couldn't manage it. DDA, bigbluewillie and Blue Armour 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Tomo said: Unless he does a Conte and jacks it in we'll always get top 4 at a minimum under TT, last season was the perfect storm to knock him and us out of it and they still couldn't manage it. If his recent comments are anything to go by, you never know. Laylabelle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, LAM09 said: If his recent comments are anything to go by, you never know. It didn't sound promising.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: I hope you're wrong too. If you are not it will be a doubly but outlook. Not only will it fail to solve the situation, it will also suggest that the people in charge are not of the right calibre to fix the problems. I see no reason to doubt that they are capable people so I would hate to be disillusioned this quickly. I believe that they'll stay calm, work through the issues and set us on a better path. I do really hope this to be the case but there has to be a bit of concern that will creep into them and their plans now. Whilst teams miss out on targets, for us to do so in such a public way does not look good whatsoever. It creates a negative outlook for the club whereby there will already be doubts and scepticism in some quarters as to what the future holds for Chelsea post Roman. They will also be fully aware that whilst they've received a warm welcome from the fans, there is still an affinity there for Chelsea fans with Roman and the feeling that we've had him forcefully taken away. If they don't hit the ground running and things do take a backwards step, I think there will be a worry that the fans might turn pretty quickly. And now to add to this, the cracks are definitely starting to show with Tuchel. From what has been reported they view him potentially as the most important person they've inherited at the club and with that in mind, the last thing they'll want is to see him run out of patience and walk away. I'd rather we take a step or two backwards and fix everything piece by piece. The idea of just placing a band-aid on things simply doesn't cut it anymore. Like you mentioned on another post, over the next couple of years these big earners we can't shift will move on when their contracts are up but it isn't something that is going to correct over night. Throwing more money at quick fixes doesn't help anything. But we all know just how emotional football is, and how easily decisions can be made based on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 25 minutes ago, LAM09 said: If his recent comments are anything to go by, you never know. I think he'd more likely walk away than just "phone it in". Last season was the perfect opportunity for him to do that and he stuck with it in testing times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,194 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) No idea why people are blaming Boehly for Barca big-footing us it is not his fault they are a bigger club and the players involved preferred them over us it is not rocket science on those players plus Real (the biggest club in the world by far) took Tchou (I blame the old board for that, as we should have bought him last summer for £40-45m) and Bayern took de Ligt, again not Boehly's fault, as they too, are a bigger club than we are atm (and always have been, post WWII) add in PSG (pure money and many players simply want to live in Paris) and Citeh (pure money + Pep) Pool atm is ascendant due to Klopp and damn smart board When Manure sort themselves (a huge if as to time-frame atm) then they shoot up that list (and they are still easily a bigger club than us, even now) these are the only bigger clubs than Chels atm Juve, we can (outside of Italian players) simply out muscle IF we want, even more so for Inter and AC Milan, plus Atletico Madrid, Arse, Dortmund, and Spuds Those are the 15 (by far, massive drop off after those 15, hopefully NUFC are still ages away from joining to make it 16) biggest clubs in global football we have 7 above us and 7 below us it is just the way it is nothing Boehly can do about it atm, it is just going to take time to claw our way up (PSG and Citeh prove you can climb massively up the ladder, as did WE OURSELVES before them) to saying we are on par with all but Barca and Real Edited July 24, 2022 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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