The Tuchel Thread

[milka 3,393]

 Who knows this story ? 

Bayer Leverkusen were 11 days away from achieving the treble but they somehow managed to finish the season with zero trophies.

On 29 May we will complete the cycle with 3 finals .

be strong  .

 

 

Edited May 16, 2021 by milka

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

hace 2 horas, Tomo dijo:

The DM/DLP drifts inbetween the CBs for first phase build-up then the fullbacks push on and offer the width.

I like the 343 but if we were to change I would like to see 433 next season because this under Sarri, the patterns and build up worked well.

Tuchel also strikes me as someone who would want to have that similar sort of way of getting up the pitch as we have seen at times this season with him. 

Just my only concern is Havertz and how he fits in the 433 because its clear going forward he will be a mainstay as a 10 or a false 9 or a hybrid 9/10 whatever they want to call him. Effectively the 433 is the 343 in possession bar it will be a Jorginho/DM in as that sort of third CB/infront of the two CBs role effectively in possession. 

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

I like the 343 but if we were to change I would like to see 433 next season because this under Sarri, the patterns and build up worked well.

Tuchel also strikes me as someone who would want to have that similar sort of way of getting up the pitch as we have seen at times this season with him. 

Just my only concern is Havertz and how he fits in the 433 because its clear going forward he will be a mainstay as a 10 or a false 9 or a hybrid 9/10 whatever they want to call him. Effectively the 433 is the 343 in possession bar it will be a Jorginho/DM in as that sort of third CB/infront of the two CBs role effectively in possession. 

Havertz as number 9 is fine. I am more worried about Werner because he would have to play either CF or LW. 

[Mário César 1,280]

On 15/05/2021 at 20:30, Milan said:

Wow, so many trophies lost there. 

we start losing finals when we lost Drogba. Its not a coincidence.

[Vesper 30,213]

17 hours ago, Milan said:

Well, to be really sure of the CL football for next season, we do not need to win all 3. Even winning just 2, no matter which, guarantee that. Well, even just 1 but that is too nervy lol

if we lose to Leicester

even beating Villa still means we are 95% crashing out of CL, barring winning the final v Citeh

Pool winning yesterday assured that, more than likely

the ONLY way we can lose to Leicester (Leicester clinches top 4 then), lose to Citeh and still go to the CL is to beat Villa (and more than likely by a shedload of goals for GD)

and pray Pool lose  (if they win 1 and draw 1 then it is down to GD, thus my comment about a shedload of goals v Villa being needed)

one of these

 

I do NOT like those odds

 

if we lose to Leicester by one

beat villa by one

we finish on 67 points and +22 GD

 

IF Pool win by one goal and draw the other game

the finish on 67 points and a +22 GD

BUT

they go to CL

over us

on total league goals scored (they have an impossible to make up +8 gap on us)

 

IF we lose CL on goals scored, and then lose (or worse  are CRUSHED) in the CL final versus Citeh

I am quite likely going to take a long break from football

as we were assfuckedraped SO many times by corrupt PGMOL, both in our games and then them aiding other direct rivals

Pool yesterday was just the latest example

why follow a rigged game, where you should win in a fair and square situ, but instead the officials STEAL it from you with dozens of corrupt manoeuvres over the course of the season?

if I want rigged, I will watch pro wrestling (and I would slit my wrists before I watch pro wrestling, just to be crystal)

[Milan 17,959]

Win 2 of the following 3 games and we are in the Champions League next season. Full stop.

[Jase 43,479]

7 hours ago, Milan said:

Win 2 of the following 3 games and we are in the Champions League next season. Full stop.

How about winning all 3? Or just win the 3rd game?

[Jase 43,479]

23 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Havertz as number 9 is fine. I am more worried about Werner because he would have to play either CF or LW. 

Think Werner has played in the front 3 in a 4-3-3 for Germany before? I believe he has played as one of two strikers in a back 4 for RB Leipzig.

Also, where does Mount fit in a back 4 system if it's not going to be 4-3-3? Tuchel has come out and said he's not suited to the double six role and he's not a winger or a creative enough player for the #10 role. 

On top of that, none of our central defenders are really comfortable in a back 4. Rudiger and Christensen have done their best work in a back 3. Azpi can only play at CB if it's a back 3. Silva can play in a back 4 but he's getting older and playing him in a back 4 would expose him more. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

hace 23 horas, NikkiCFC dijo:

Havertz as number 9 is fine. I am more worried about Werner because he would have to play either CF or LW. 

Aye thats true but I think either way we are going to be in for Harry Kane this summer now hes wanting to leave or Sergio Aguero on a free. Its going to be interesting if we managed to get one of them. Is Werner going to play off them? Is Havertz going to play off them/in their place off the bench? Then you’ve got Mount, Pulisic, Hudson-Odoi to all consider too be lots of competition and I think Mount is going to be involved either way.

I do also feeling we might just stick with the 343 considering all the potential fuss of changing to a 4 and the whole thing of trying to rejig multiple players in set positions like Werner, Mount, Havertz, Azpilicueta (RCB) where they clearly suit more where they operate now. There’s no doubt in my mind it suits the squad more than a back 4. I mean if Werner goes back to playing LW it will be like playing with 10 men again.

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

2 hours ago, Jas said:

Or just win the 3rd game?

It would be nice for English footy to have 5 clubs in CL.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

9 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

It would be nice for English footy to have 5 clubs in CL.

yeah but that was Arsenal's job. We can't chance it on a one in a million final win vs Guardiola.

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

 

[milka 3,393]

 

[Henrique 9,133]

6 hours ago, milka said:

 

Its just an article wrote by salty Lampard's stan.  He is angry because Reece is not playing every game, Odoi is always sitting on the bench, and Abraham and Gilmour are not even on the bench. It seems some folks didn't realize yet that we are not here do develop british players. Yeah, I used to believe Mount wasnt even a PL quality player, but I was wrong, he is really good and the only player from "Lampard project" that deserves to start every game. Reece is also another one that has a great future here, and is already starting some really crucial games. Odoi and Abraham are not good enough, and the same can be said about Gilmour, despite the usual overhype he generated months ago. This team is good enough to win things now and right now there no better coach for us than Tuchel, with or without UCL football next season.

 

[Laylabelle 9,536]

Enjoying his post match talk

[DH1988 1,348]

Just now, Laylabelle said:

Enjoying his post match talk

 Came to post the same, very enjoyable.

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

Just now, Laylabelle said:

Enjoying his post match talk

He just said we have had horrible decisions against us - 3 clear penalties

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

1 hour ago, Henrique said:

Its just an article wrote by salty Lampard's stan.  He is angry because Reece is not playing every game, Odoi is always sitting on the bench, and Abraham and Gilmour are not even on the bench. It seems some folks didn't realize yet that we are not here do develop british players. Yeah, I used to believe Mount wasnt even a PL quality player, but I was wrong, he is really good and the only player from "Lampard project" that deserves to start every game. Reece is also another one that has a great future here, and is already starting some really crucial games. Odoi and Abraham are not good enough, and the same can be said about Gilmour, despite the usual overhype he generated months ago. This team is good enough to win things now and right now there no better coach for us than Tuchel, with or without UCL football next season.

 

Yes, it is biased but I am sure it has not anything to do with academy players. It is purely on Lampard vs Tuchel.

Edited May 18, 2021 by NikkiCFC

[Tomo 21,751]

9 hours ago, milka said:

 

"Chelsea fans had proudly sung about having ‘Tomori at the back and Tammy in attack’, we loved the fact that the jewels in our crown had come straight outta Cobham."

Does he realise 50 percent of that duo were dropped by Lampard?

[Jase 43,479]

7 hours ago, Tomo said:

"Chelsea fans had proudly sung about having ‘Tomori at the back and Tammy in attack’, we loved the fact that the jewels in our crown had come straight outta Cobham."

Does he realise 50 percent of that duo were dropped by Lampard?

It's Rory Jennings. He always has Lampard tinted glasses on. I don't know why he was given a platform to spout nonsense like that but then again, it's Daily Mail.