The Conte Thread

[The Chels 2,502]

13 hours ago, Henrique said:

Indeed. In my books the collapsing after the team was down to 10 men is all about the manager. Results like that are not coming from lack of quality, but lack of command. Its like the 7-1 result.

Funny how everyone wants to overlook this. We've shown we have no defensive stability whatsoever when we're down to 10 men, not even when playing at home against a small team. Conte is as much to blame as anyone else.

[Tomo 21,751]

7 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

How has Poch been screwed over?   He gets to keep all of his players at the club and their is still time to add 1-2 decent players as depth. 

As for Klopp, he only lacks options at CB. At least Liverpool signed depth at the LB, Striker spots. 

He's lost a fullback key to his plans and hasn't as of yet been given anyone. He has hinted a few times that he needs depth to maintain the season they have had plus compete in Europe, so far Levy hasn't delivered yet Poch is in a relatively happy state of mind.

Klopp identified two players to truly elevate Liverpool into title challengers and hasn't got either, in a similar situation we would have been blasting the board left, right and centre.

In terms of player recruitment we have done better than those two, we have provided Conte with three players he wanted, two of which borderline world class, so that alone makes his childish antics laughable. Yes the depth isn't great at the minute to say the least but our injured players will return at some point and i'm sure wwe will sign a player or two before deadline day.

[termninja 5,290]

I am amazed how much pressure from media has been put to Antonio, crazy. Hopefully he will have a good season and things will be stable for a few years, I am sick of all the drama we had in the last couple of years.

[communicate 2,703]

30 minutes ago, Tomo said:

He's lost a fullback key to his plans and hasn't as of yet been given anyone. He has hinted a few times that he needs depth to maintain the season they have had plus compete in Europe, so far Levy hasn't delivered yet Poch is in a relatively happy state of mind.

Klopp identified two players to truly elevate Liverpool into title challengers and hasn't got either, in a similar situation we would have been blasting the board left, right and centre.

In terms of player recruitment we have done better than those two, we have provided Conte with three players he wanted, two of which borderline world class, so that alone makes his childish antics laughable. Yes the depth isn't great at the minute to say the least but our injured players will return at some point and i'm sure wwe will sign a player or two before deadline day.

I agree bar the two manchester clubs who can splash cash without any repercussions, we have done better compare to pool N spurs. 

Not sure what kind of antics are you talking about. If you are talking about conte complaining about lack of players, you should have listened how many time he was asked that questions in every interview

[Peace. 4,352]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

In terms of player recruitment we have done better than those two, we have provided Conte with three players he wanted, two of which borderline world class, so that alone makes his childish antics laughable. Yes the depth isn't great at the minute to say the least but our injured players will return at some point and i'm sure wwe will sign a player or two before deadline day.

Tomo, I do appreciate that you are eager to find optimism in this situation but, come on, the players we have signed are an ocean away of being "borderline" world-class, whether in regards to their level or their achivement. Good players ? Sure. Will they be world-class one day ? This is another debate.

A world-class striker is someone such as prime Drogba or Suarez — and nobody could ever make the argument that Morata is "borderline" as good as prime Drogba or Suarez. Idem in respect to midfielders, no one could ever hold the argument that Bakayoko is "borderline" as good as Modric, Kroos or prime Essien. Same for Rudiger.

As for now, they are good and that's that.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

 

If ture. conte will leave soon.

[Johnnyeye 7,509]

8 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

 

If ture. conte will leave soon.

for sure, if true this is a clear sign of disrespect to Conte by the club

[whats happening 1,615]

11 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

 

If ture. conte will leave soon.

what the fuck is this blakcmailing? it's like our board is run by arsenal or united board who want to worsen the situation as much as possible. there is 0 logic in this thing.

[Jase 43,479]

Are people seriously overreacting to a tweet from a nobody now?

[oldportblue 547]

1 hour ago, xPetrCechx said:

 

If ture. conte will leave soon.

why are you posting tweets from nobodies as if they are some sort of trustworthy reports?

[Jype 6,398]

Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Costa was told to get back to London and train himself match fit again, that much is true. However I'd think the reason for that is:

a) Club want Costa to be fit so he can be sold at a better price as compared to him continuing partying in Brazil which is really unprofessional behavior. At Cobham he can also be kept under close watch, so unsanctioned interviews like today won't happen again until he's sold.

b) The club are calling Costa's bluff. In the interview he played the victim card and told the media Chelsea don't want him back and he's been nothing but a good boy who wanted to stay, so now the club are ordering him to come back and see how he reacts. If (or rather when) he most likely declines the invitation to return, Costa's sob story from today will be proven as a lie and that also takes away any previous threat of a mistreatment law suit against the club because it'll be Costa himself who is breaching the contract even after being told to make himself ready for first-team action.

It's really, really unlikely that the club would force Conte to play Costa again, because if that was their plan they'd have done it over a month ago and not today after his interview, where he was again being really disrespectful towards Conte with all those 'no charisma' comments etc.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

[Tomo 21,751]

3 hours ago, Peace. said:

Tomo, I do appreciate that you are eager to find optimism in this situation but, come on, the players we have signed are an ocean away of being "borderline" world-class, whether in regards to their level or their achivement. Good players ? Sure. Will they be world-class one day ? This is another debate.

A world-class striker is someone such as prime Drogba or Suarez — and nobody could ever make the argument that Morata is "borderline" as good as prime Drogba or Suarez. Idem in respect to midfielders, no one could ever hold the argument that Bakayoko is "borderline" as good as Modric, Kroos or prime Essien. Same for Rudiger.

As for now, they are good and that's that.

Okay, borderline was pushing it, but Bakayoko and Morata are both players with serious scope for improvement and players that could foreseeable get there.

Suarez upto his last season at Liverpool was a insanely talented player but was quite erratic and wasteful which stopped him (and his team) reaching the next level. Morata, while I'm not saying he will grow to that status, is arriving as a hugely talented forward with rough edges. His mentality is top notch and when you have that, you are half way there (providing you have the talent, of course). Re Baka, well Makelele didn't say what he said for no reason, he in time could develop into a big player.

Unfortunately we can't/won't shop in the market which allows proven world class ready made players, we have to get players who "could" get there. If someone said Azpi would grow to a bear perfect defender (in terms of pure defending) when we signed him said person would have got laughed at. Drogba, Cech, Lampard were signed with everything to prove and they did.

[Superblue 6,372]

11 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Okay, borderline was pushing it, but Bakayoko and Morata are both players with serious scope for improvement and players that could foreseeable get there.

Suarez upto his last season at Liverpool was a insanely talented player but was quite erratic and wasteful which stopped him (and his team) reaching the next level. Morata, while I'm not saying he will grow to that status, is arriving as a hugely talented forward with rough edges. His mentality is top notch and when you have that, you are half way there (providing you have the talent, of course). Re Baka, well Makelele didn't say what he said for no reason, he in time could develop into a big player.

Unfortunately we can't/won't shop in the market which allows proven world class ready made players, we have to get players who "could" get there. If someone said Azpi would grow to a bear perfect defender (in terms of pure defending) when we signed him said person would have got laughed at. Drogba, Cech, Lampard were signed with everything to prove and they did.

In my opinion there's no problem with the quality we've brought. There will be a risk over buying Bakayoko and Morata to replace Matic and Costa who are Premier League proven but the long term strategy of these two moves makes sense and re-generates the team as a more youthful, mobile and pacier set up.

The problem is the depth and whether it's the manager's doing, board or a bit of both, there is no doubt that it is an almighty cock up.

We hardly had the biggest squad last season, we're not like Arsenal for example who would be looking to trim a lot of the fringe players before buying. We needed a bigger squad. Therefore there should never have been any harm in bringing players in first before letting others leave. On this basis we could have easily retained 3 or 4 players to bulk up the squad for now - people like Loftus Cheek, Traore, etc. They could've been sold or loaned out in the last few days of the window if and when we knew what other players we had coming in. 

Even with the players we have to come back in we still look desperately short. There is no way a club our size and challenging for trophies should be looking thin of resources with a couple of players out because over the course of the season you should expect a couple of players out at a time injured or suspended as a minimum.

The quality is there, but the quantity isn't. People are laughing at us being linked to people like Drinkwater, but look at some of the players Fergie had at United in their glory days - O'Shea, Wes Brown, Jonny Evans, Ji Sung Park. Decent but nowhere near great players who all proved once they left United what their real level was, but within a winning machine they could come in when needed and perform and help the team get results. We have nothing like this within our squad at the moment and this is what will cause us to struggle this season if it's not addressed.

[DYC. 7,542]

46 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Okay, borderline was pushing it, but Bakayoko and Morata are both players with serious scope for improvement and players that could foreseeable get there.

Suarez upto his last season at Liverpool was a insanely talented player but was quite erratic and wasteful which stopped him (and his team) reaching the next level. Morata, while I'm not saying he will grow to that status, is arriving as a hugely talented forward with rough edges. His mentality is top notch and when you have that, you are half way there (providing you have the talent, of course). Re Baka, well Makelele didn't say what he said for no reason, he in time could develop into a big player.

Unfortunately we can't/won't shop in the market which allows proven world class ready made players, we have to get players who "could" get there. If someone said Azpi would grow to a bear perfect defender (in terms of pure defending) when we signed him said person would have got laughed at. Drogba, Cech, Lampard were signed with everything to prove and they did.

Suarez scored 54 goals in 66 league apps in 12/13 and 13/14.

I just had to correct you there. But please, continue.

[Henrique 9,133]

With the tough first games of the PL season, and considering the club's record, at this point it will be a miracle if Conte survives untill november.

[King11Didier 916]

10 minutes ago, Henrique said:

With the tough first games of the PL season, and considering the club's record, at this point it will be a miracle if Conte survives untill november.

With what is left from the team, Conte is one of the few coaches who is able to survive at least untill November. But it might end up Conte leaving by himself, if he is fed up with the board that let him down.

[manpe 10,861]

After all this bullshit the thing I'd like to see most is just Conte walking around after the end of the game smiling and hugging every player. How we're used to seeing him. I want this win so badly, doing it against the odds would provoke a classic passionate reaction. It could galvanise the team.

 

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[xPetrCechx 13,570]

9 hours ago, King11Didier said:

With what is left from the team, Conte is one of the few coaches who is able to survive at least untill November. But it might end up Conte leaving by himself, if he is fed up with the board that let him down.

 

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

We back Diego Costa: Chelsea stars take sides in clash with Antonio Conte

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4790458/amp/Chelsea-stars-Diego-Costa-clash-Antonio-Conte.html

 

Here we go...