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Magic Lamps 10,146 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Tbf for the money offered, I would have sold Matic too. He was piss poor for most of the season. Our midfield was a Kante one man show. Even a half fit Bakayoko can only do better. I'd much rather have Drinkwater, who has a better understanding with Kante anyway than Matic in my squad. Still it is not a good sign that we sell players the manage rhas in his plans and it did not seem that Matic was keen on leaving it felt more like him being pushed out. Luckily this is not a KDB/Salah/Mata/Lukaku/Bertrand etc. case were we sold too soon. economically and probably also from a technical point of view a brilliant decision to sell matic. But strategically it might come to back to haunt us if this deteroriates the relationship with Conte and the board. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whats happening 1,171 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Tbf for the money offered, I would have sold Matic too. He was piss poor for most of the season. Our midfield was a Kante one man show. Even a half fit Bakayoko can only do better. I'd much rather have Drinkwater, who has a better understanding with Kante anyway than Matic in my squad. Still it is not a good sign that we sell players the manage rhas in his plans and it did not seem that Matic was keen on leaving it felt more like him being pushed out. Luckily this is not a KDB/Salah/Mata/Lukaku/Bertrand etc. case were we sold too soon. economically and probably also from a technical point of view a brilliant decision to sell matic. But strategically it might come to back to haunt us if this deteroriates the relationship with Conte and the board. very soon we will see how important was matic for this team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magic Lamps 10,146 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, whats happening said: very soon we will see how important was matic for this team. Yeah Matic was important in getting overrun in every bloody big game in the entire season. Important in being clumsy and slow on and off the ball, misplacing the simplest of passes and being about the most one-footed person alive. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xPetrCechx 13,323 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Knows Very Well? So why we do nothing about that?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whats happening 1,171 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 26 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Yeah Matic was important in getting overrun in every bloody big game in the entire season. Important in being clumsy and slow on and off the ball, misplacing the simplest of passes and being about the most one-footed person alive. he wasnt that bad. this whole narrative that kante did all the work himself is pretty annoying and stupid. and we can be worse next season. no one knows how bakayoko will end up. he can easily be worse than matic. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peace. 4,351 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Jype said: What makes people automatically think those Matic comments are a dig at the board? It might just as well be that Conte wanted to keep him but the player insisted on going with increased competition for his place so the club didn't want to keep him against his will. "My idea was to use Matic to sweeten in Bakayoko and ultimately to bench him in a few months when the French will be ready. Unfortunately, the Serbian was having none of that and wanted to leave this club ; and, at the same time, Manchester United did bid a significant amount of money. We thus had to sell and to accelerate the process blah blah...." Indeed. Reading between the lines is cool — but there is not always things to read, between those lines. Sometimes, plain statements are, well, mere plain statements without any hidden meaning. And here, we are most certainly in one of those cases : a mere exposition, a mere statement made by Conte without any masterplan hidden behind it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: Yeah Matic was important in getting overrun in every bloody big game in the entire season. Important in being clumsy and slow on and off the ball, misplacing the simplest of passes and being about the most one-footed person alive. we won 30 games last year... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Antonio8 726 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Jype said: What makes people automatically think those Matic comments are a dig at the board? It might just as well be that Conte wanted to keep him but the player insisted on going with increased competition for his place so the club didn't want to keep him against his will. conte prefers different types of CM i think that a good name could be matuidi 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xPetrCechx 13,323 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Chelsea manager Antonio Conte believes he needs to add to his 4 summer signings to improve the 'quality' of his squad. (BBC) #CFC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando 6,105 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 On 8/8/2017 at 10:44 AM, Tomo said: This Papy and Hector narrative is getting beyond boring and ignorant. Because it looks more then likely that is what will do. All summer to get targets and just now they are working hard? They will default and get just some crappy player like Hector to be sent out on loan. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pizy 15,518 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 General consensus amongst pundits and journalists seems to be that we've taken a step back this summer, that we won't really compete for the title, that we made a ridiculous decision to sell Matic to United, and that Conte isn't long for the job. Hard to disagree with any of that, sadly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomo 20,839 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Fernando said: Because it looks more then likely that is what will do. All summer to get targets and just now they are working hard? They will default and get just some crappy player like Hector to be sent out on loan. It has happened once in how many year's? Why is it more likely to be another Papy/Hector end of window as opposed to another Alonso/Luiz, Willian or Remy type? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomo 20,839 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Pizy said: General consensus amongst pundits and journalists seems to be that we've taken a step back this summer, that we won't really compete for the title, that we made a ridiculous decision to sell Matic to United, and that Conte isn't long for the job. Hard to disagree with any of that, sadly. We may not have had a great window, but as it stands only City have done enough to overtake us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fulham Broadway 15,061 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, Tomo said: We may not have had a great window, but as it stands only City have done enough to overtake us. Losing Costa is a step back imo 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 General consensus amongst pundits and journalists seems to be that we've taken a step back this summer, that we won't really compete for the title, that we made a ridiculous decision to sell Matic to United, and that Conte isn't long for the job. Hard to disagree with any of that, sadly.Same people who wrote us off last season. There are more sensible people here than on TV, albeit not many. Their opinions are as good as yours... Which isn't right or wrong, but I don't get why you made this an argument. We got rid of an average player, who once had a very good season in the title campaign a few years back and who was going to sit in our bench, moved him to be a starter in a rival. We might get another average player, who was also solid in a title a couple of years ago, to be our 4th choice in midfield. See the difference? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando 6,105 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 29 minutes ago, Tomo said: It has happened once in how many year's? Why is it more likely to be another Papy/Hector end of window as opposed to another Alonso/Luiz, Willian or Remy type? Well we shall see. I'm just getting that notion that this is what will happen. They can't close any good target and will just get players to be sent out on loan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pizy 15,518 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, Barbara said: Same people who wrote us off last season. There are more sensible people here than on TV, albeit not many. Their opinions are as good as yours... Which isn't right or wrong, but I don't get why you made this an argument. We got rid of an average player, who once had a very good season in the title campaign a few years back and who was going to sit in our bench, moved him to be a starter in a rival. We might get another average player, who was also solid in a title a couple of years ago, to be our 4th choice in midfield. See the difference? I don't think we'll really miss Matic but I definitely think he'll improve United considerably. Honestly, selling him is pretty far down on my list of annoyances this summer. Not immedietly going after and nailing down the managers top targets is number 1. Followed closely by waiting until this late and still not having any depth in several key positions. Their opinions my be just as valid as ours, but in truth it is very difficult to make the case that we've improved our team so far. With Hazard and Bakayoko out along with Diego exiled you'd have to agree that we now enter the new season worse than we ended last. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Still believing we will make 4 more signing. 3 before deadline day and 1 at deadline day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomo 20,839 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 50 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Losing Costa is a step back imo Defiantly, but Spurs (our closest challengers) look set to lose both there first choice fullback's (and Fortress WHL) which is an even bigger blow. City granted have strengthened significantly but i don't think the other 3 have done enough (so far) to close the gap despite us losing Costa. 38 minutes ago, Fernando said: Well we shall see. I'm just getting that notion that this is what will happen. They can't close any good target and will just get players to be sent out on loan. I think we are going out for Sandro, and if we can't we will then go for an Alonso esque signing, likely Cancelo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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