The Mourinho Thread

[Tomo 21,751]

People change over the years.

Roman and Jose quite clearly had a relationship breakdown which led to the latter leaving, but in the years gone by people's perspective changes, and obviously there's has to the point they feel tthey can work together again.

I bet the ill fated full time spell off Robbie was a bit off an eye opener, he played good football (well what the perception off good football is atleast) which culminated in 2 wins out off 9 and one off them was via extra time.

Maybe he use to be obsessed with sexy attacking football back in 2007, people change over time, i didn't mind the tika taka style in 2009, now i can't stand the sight off it.

[bushman 2,043]

We have played like crap all season. The reaction isn't borne out of last nights performance alone and let's not pretend Jose is some manager that plays and place value in attractive style of football.

If Chelsea played like crap as you put it so eloquently, then how come the team is hovering around the top of the PL all season?

Take your time, to explain.

[lionsden 4,689]

He tried to find that manager for years and failed repeatedly. In the last 2-3 years we became so uncompetitive and a joke in the league, especially considering our budget. We were essentially a glorified cup team.

I truly believe that the type of football we're talking about will never happen at Chelsea. The best we can hope for is what Dortmund was last year and Atletico are this year: a highly athletic, hard-working, counter-attacking team with a quality striker leading the line. That should be relatively easier to achieve than trying to copy these philosophy teams/coaches and failing.

Why do you think so

[didierforever 7,349]

We have played like crap all season. The reaction isn't borne out of last nights performance alone and let's not pretend Jose is some manager that plays and place value in attractive style of football.

Sure dude. Whatever u say. I mean 6-0 arsenal, 4-0 spurs, 3-1 united, 2-1 and 1-0 city, 2-1 pool. All of this was cos we played crap. I mean jose's sole responsibility should have been to play attracyive football, who cares about a long term system, balance, work ethic.

You know there is a team in PL, which does all u want - ARSENAL. How is that working out for them.

[bushman 2,043]

People change over the years.

Roman and Jose quite clearly had a relationship breakdown which led to the latter leaving, but in the years gone by people's perspective changes, and obviously there's has to the point they feel tthey can work together again.

I bet the ill fated full time spell off Robbie was a bit off an eye opener, he played good football (well what the perception off good football is atleast) which culminated in 2 wins out off 9 and one off them was via extra time.

Maybe he use to be obsessed with sexy attacking football back in 2007, people change over time, i didn't mind the tika taka style in 2009, now i can't stand the sight off it.

Jose is the master tactician, plays football according what´s available to him. I let you figure out why he played defensively in many games, in this season.

[lionsden 4,689]

People change over the years.

Roman and Jose quite clearly had a relationship breakdown which led to the latter leaving, but in the years gone by people's perspective changes, and obviously there's has to the point they feel tthey can work together again.

I bet the ill fated full time spell off Robbie was a bit off an eye opener, he played good football (well what the perception off good football is atleast) which culminated in 2 wins out off 9 and one off them was via extra time.

Maybe he use to be obsessed with sexy attacking football back in 2007, people change over time, i didn't mind the tika taka style in 2009, now i can't stand the sight off it.

Robbie never played good football, he tried to but it was never properly implemented. It was the media that brainwashed people into thinking we/he did which gave birth to the extremely cringe worthy "3 amigos". We were overly reliant on mata for creativity and most of our build up play was dire with the lampard-ramires midfield combo.

My idea of good football was how we played under carlo's 1st season and gullit-vialli

[The only place to be 11,313]

Things don't change overnight. Barcelona's style didn't arrive with Pep, it was decades in the making so when people continually criticise the style of football being played this season I do find it fucking annoying. This year was always about building a platform, something stable which we haven't had for years. People lament the days of Ballack, Lampard, Anelka, Drogba etc. but don't realise that the foundation for that team was built during Jose's spell when some people labelled us boring.

Yet all of a sudden it's supposed to spring up in Jose's first year?? Do one.

Some people need to be a little bit more patient because they really do embody the 'I want it now' bitching that has been a cancer at this club for much of the last decade. THIS is the point in time when supporting a club isn't a matter of simply going on Facebook and taking the piss cause we won at home again. THIS is the point where you do have to take some bad results on the chin and feel like crap for a few days.

We are a work-in-progress, a team in transition and a team with some mighty obvious holes in key positions but we have one of the finest managers in the world steering the ship now and the club and the supporters need to get behind him. The mood at the ground is 180 degrees from where it was last season yet a few people on this forum continually pour shit on this club's efforts, as if their entitled to instant success.

Grow up or fuck off.

[Styles 9,790]

Why do you think so

A number of reasons but mainly because it takes more than just buying a few players to develop that style of football, which has ultimately been our approach. And it goes beyond just the manager, it’s an entire club effort and I don’t think we have that*. We’re not a 'philosophy club' like Barcelona so what’s the driving force for us to play a certain style of football? We're just not as committed to the idea of that style of football as other clubs are. The club is however infinitely more committed to winning trophies.

*Our youth/u21 teams are technically very, very good but if we're being honest we know they're not going to play for the first team. We'll continue to buy players that allow us to compete in the here and now because that's what the club cares about more than anything.

[Tomo 21,751]

Robbie never played good football, he tried to but it was never properly implemented. It was the media that brainwashed people into thinking we/he did which gave birth to the extremely cringe worthy "3 amigos". We were overly reliant on mata for creativity and most of our build up play was dire with the lampard-ramires midfield combo.

My idea of good football was how we played under carlo's 1st season and gullit-vialli

When the opponents rolled over for us (ala Newcastlem Wolves) we were playing some pretty decent stuff, when teams turned up with a tactical plan, that was when we come unstuck and Robbie got found out.

[bushman 2,043]

Jose is playing on Sunday:

Schwarzer, Cole, Ake, Kalas, Iva, Matic, Lampard, Schurrle, Van Guinkel, Salah, BA.

I would like to see it, for sure.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

interview with Mourinho after his first season here.

Thought the first 10 minutes were very interesting cause there were a number of things that popped up that explain what Mourinho has done this season.

Warning Piers Morgan pops up from time to time. I'm truly sorry !

[lionsden 4,689]

A number of reasons but mainly because it takes more than just buying a few players to develop that style of football, which has ultimately been our approach. And it goes beyond just the manager, it’s an entire club effort and I don’t think we have that*. We’re not a 'philosophy club' like Barcelona so what’s the driving force for us to play a certain style of football? We're just not as committed to the idea of that style of football as other clubs are. The club is however infinitely more committed to winning trophies.

*Our youth/u21 teams are technically very, very good but if we're being honest we know they're not going to play for the first team. We'll continue to buy players that allow us to compete in the here and now because that's what the club cares about more than anything.

I agree with some of this but what annoys me is the how the likes of Jose,emenalo and Gourlay tries to insult people's intelligence by promoting the idea that we are looking to take on a new identity in regards to playing style and that we are totally committed to youth development and integration.

As far as the strategy taking a while to implement goes, I have to disagree given the relatively short and almost instant impact managers like Rodgers,Martinez and Pochettino have had on their respective teams philosophy and style of play. it doesn't always take as long as it's usually made out as long as the manager is fully committed.

[FabHazard 655]

A number of reasons but mainly because it takes more than just buying a few players to develop that style of football, which has ultimately been our approach. And it goes beyond just the manager, it’s an entire club effort and I don’t think we have that*. We’re not a 'philosophy club' like Barcelona so what’s the driving force for us to play a certain style of football? We're just not as committed to the idea of that style of football as other clubs are. The club is however infinitely more committed to winning trophies.

*Our youth/u21 teams are technically very, very good but if we're being honest we know they're not going to play for the first team. We'll continue to buy players that allow us to compete in the here and now because that's what the club cares about more than anything.

agree with that...technically they are very good...whenever i watch u21 i was very impressed with them ...they are playing from the back...i am happy with the way they are playing...hopefully they develop and get into first team...

[Special Juan 28,099]

Let's get a plane up.......Jose out banner.....

[The only place to be 11,313]

Let's get a plane up.......Jose out banner.....

No chance. The people bitching and moaning haven't got the balls to do something like that because deep down they probably admit that this club is finally moving in the right direction even when they're wanking over the 2009/2010 dvd and longing for the days we were a glorified cup team in the late-90s.