The Mourinho Thread

[Jase 43,479]

This is not to say Mourinho isn't at fault for our problems but...

Experiencing a 'bad moment' under managers who aren't Mourinho - Blame players for poor performances/results.

Experiencing a 'bad moment' under Mourinho - Blame Mourinho for poor performances/results.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

It's over-reaction. TC's synonymous for it. Wind's change quicker than results. Sacking the manager does nothing for the club. We go back to crying for stability

[Styles 9,790]

This is not to say Mourinho isn't at fault for our problems but...

Experiencing a 'bad moment' under managers who aren't Mourinho - Blame players for poor performances/results.

Experiencing a 'bad moment' under Mourinho - Blame Mourinho for poor performances/results.

What! You saying nobody ever criticised the previous managers?

[Styles 9,790]

It's over-reaction. TC's synonymous for it. Wind's change quicker than results. Sacking the manager does nothing for the club. We go back to crying for stability

If stability means playing shit football then I don't want it.

[Jase 43,479]

What! You saying nobody ever criticised the previous managers?

Compare to previous managers, Mourinho gets a lot more stick than them/players escaping from criticism pretty easily.

[killer1257 3,282]

This is not to say Mourinho isn't at fault for our problems but...

Experiencing a 'bad moment' under managers who aren't Mourinho - Blame players for poor performances/results.

Experiencing a 'bad moment' under Mourinho - Blame Mourinho for poor performances/results.

That is not true.Look at the posts in the Ivanovic thread for instance.There is a lot of criticism about Ivanovics poor performances out there,but the main thing is that Mourinho always gives him more chances instead of benching him.

That is his fault.Why not give another player a chance?Of course,when players play bad and we criticise them,but why does Mourinho not change more.Benching Terry gave us a little bit of more stability.Why not bench Iva?Oscar and Cesc were poor yesterday,but I know that both of them will get more minutes in the next two matches.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

If stability means playing shit football then I don't want it.

How does one overcome with it then? I have no problem if you want to sack him. Go ahead do it, and find another manager. We go through the same cycle, and end up calling for his head the moment things turn upside down. And at the end of it, cry for stability. Isn't it a worrying trend? If we once and for all declare our purpose and ambitions as being a club that wants to win full stop, then make it very clear. People cry for youth development, stability and at the same time want the manager's sacked as soon as possible. It makes no sense to me?

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

On the BBC interview he said "you don't have to play well to win games".

It's really no surprise the team plays such shit football 90% of the time. I can count the amount of good team performances this calendar year on one hand.

Plenty of managers said that sort of stuff.... really nothing new.

[Styles 9,790]

Compare to previous managers, Mourinho gets a lot more stick than them/players escaping from criticism pretty easily.

Disagree. AVB, Benitez, Grant etc all got stick.

Only one who didn't was Hiddink and rightly so. Pound for pound the best manager we've had in the Roman era.

[Styles 9,790]

How does one overcome with it then? I have no problem if you want to sack him. Go ahead do it, and find another manager. We go through the same cycle, and end up calling for his head the moment things turn upside down. And at the end of it, cry for stability. Isn't it a worrying trend? If we once and for all declare our purpose and ambitions as being a club that wants to win full stop, then make it very clear. People cry for youth development, stability and at the same time want the manager's sacked as soon as possible. It makes no sense to me?

Stability is bullshit. All the top clubs change managers in 3-4 year cycles.

And if you wanted stability why give it to Mourinho of all people? I don't want to watch his shit football for the next 10+ years.

[Jase 43,479]

That is not true.Look at the posts in the Ivanovic thread for instance.There is a lot of criticism about Ivanovics poor performances out there,but the main thing is that Mourinho always gives him more chances instead of benching him.

That is his fault.Why not give another player a chance?Of course,when players play bad and we criticise them,but why does Mourinho not change more.Benching Terry gave us a little bit of more stability.Why not bench Iva?Oscar and Cesc were poor yesterday,but I know that both of them will get more minutes in the next two matches.

This.

Compare to previous managers, Mourinho gets a lot more stick than them/players escaping from criticism pretty easily.

Only the obvious culprits are getting blamed but what about the entire squad in general? No blame on them for under-performing? No question as to why they're doing so badly? The least you would expect from players is desire, commitment, hunger but we don't even see much of those from the players these days. Why? They are playing for Chelsea - one of the biggest clubs in the world - and if they can't even at least motivate themselves for match, then they have got some serious issues.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Stability is bullshit. All the top clubs change managers in 3-4 year cycles.

And if you wanted stability why give it to Mourinho of all people? I don't want to watch his shit football for the next 10+ years.

Then thats your pov. Is that what others feel? I don't think so.

That's your opinion, ours differ. Agree to disagree.

[Jase 43,479]

Disagree. AVB, Benitez, Grant etc all got stick.

Only one who didn't was Hiddink and rightly so. Pound for pound the best manager we've had in the Roman era.

Never said they didn't get it. It's just they got it less than Mourinho. At least some of the blame was put on the squad last time. Now, there's hardly any with the exception of 2-3 players.

[Styles 9,790]

Never said they didn't get it. It's just they got it less than Mourinho. At least some of the blame was put on the squad last time. Now, there's hardly any with the exception of 2-3 players.

Yeah, because we expect more from Mourinho.

If the team isn't functioning well for almost an entire year then blaming players is futile. The manager needs to be questioned.

[Jase 43,479]

Yeah, because we expect more from Mourinho.

If the team isn't functioning well for almost an entire year then blaming players is futile. The manager needs to be questioned.

That is one thing but if the players are not showing the desire, hunger and commitment at the very least - which they haven't shown of late - then some serious questions need to be asked of them as well.

[killer1257 3,282]

That is one thing but if the players are not showing the desire, hunger and commitment at the very least - which they haven't shown of late - then some serious questions need to be asked of them as well.

Yes,you both are right.

The weird thing is that Mourinho yesterday mentioned that our players could have some attitude problems.We saw these attitude problems during the second part of the season and we still have these kind of problems.Instead of benching some players,Mou still gives them chances over and over again.

Look at what Ramires did yesterday.He ran his socks off,tried to show how good he is and he delivered.

Kenedy always tries to impress the coach,he always runs like a bigger version of Ramires,going into every duel he sees and he showed that he has desire for this club.

RLC impressed everyone with his great runs,his tackles and his quick reading of the game and he showed that he wants to be in the starting line up.

Instead of giving those 3 more chances,he gives Iva,Oscar,Hazard and Cesc more chances,which is unfair.

These attitude problems could be fixed if those untouchable player sit some matches on the bench and see what younger players or players that love the club can do.Maybe,they change their minds,but Mourinho first has to change his mind by giving other players chances.

Iva was the worst player against Walsall,why does he bring him against Newcastle.

I do not get it.

[Laylabelle 9,536]

It makes sense to give other players a chance.Especially seeing it won't be a risk as we're hardly in good form with our more experience team.Might be the wake up call they need.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Yes,you both are right.

The weird thing is that Mourinho yesterday mentioned that our players could have some attitude problems.We saw these attitude problems during the second part of the season and we still have these kind of problems.Instead of benching some players,Mou still gives them chances over and over again.

Look at what Ramires did yesterday.He ran his socks off,tried to show how good he is and he delivered.

Kenedy always tries to impress the coach,he always runs like a bigger version of Ramires,going into every duel he sees and he showed that he has desire for this club.

RLC impressed everyone with his great runs,his tackles and his quick reading of the game and he showed that he wants to be in the startin line up.

Instead of giving those 3 more chances,he gives Iva,Oscar,Hazard and Cesc more chances,which is unfair.

These attitude problems could be fixed if those untouchable player sit some matches on the bench and see what younger players or players that love the club can do.Maybe,they change their minds,but Mourinho first has to change his mind by giving other players chances.

Iva was the worst player against Walsall,why does he bring him against Newcastle.

I do not get it.

Probably the most level headed response I've seen, kudos.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Yeah, because we expect more from Mourinho.

If the team isn't functioning well for almost an entire year then blaming players is futile. The manager needs to be questioned.

This!!!

[Muzchap 8,966]

He's lost it - plain and simple

The self appointed God of Football has been consumed by his own ego

A star that has imploded.

I used to love Mou - I really did - why?

- Because I knew when the players stepped on the pitch they would be giving 100%

- because we would have analysed the opposition to death and built a game plan around neutralising them and winning the match

Now - all I see is 10 players running about without a fucking clue and a manager who blames everything except himself.

I would rather Mou not be sacked - but I want to find out why we have a whiny imposter in charge - instead of the Mourinho I remember...

If that doesn't happen - then I see no other option. I think it will happen sooner rather than later. We are in danger of missing out on Top 4.

The annoying voice in my head is hoping that this is not Mou retaliating against the board for not getting his summer signings - I want to dismiss this as ridiculous, but with Mou's actions lately I am unable to do so.

Whatever happens it's a sad state of affairs