The Mourinho Thread

[Term-X 7,891]

hmmm that's an interesting point of way at looking at it.

No I meant that with the club decided to sell even though Mourinho might not want to send him to a rival. He did it with Ba by not sending him to Arsenal, so what change here?

It's not the first time that the board done that. Sturridge was better then Torres, but managers picked Torres ahead of him.

So the club did what they thought was best, sell Sturridge for a profit to a rival.

Feels like the same way here.

Mata was sold, that's all you need..

If this was RDM.. but he was winning, they'd STILL give it a season 'holding off' from sacking him to save an asset (Mata). However, because it's the new Ferguson and Roman wants him here for the long term, the mentality of the club is completely different.

Scolari wanted to sell Drogba for Adriano but the clubs 'assets' came before the wishes of the coach, oh and the club gave the players actual power, that wasn't a media myth.

[Fernando 6,585]

Mata was sold, that's all you need..

If this was RDM.. but he was winning, they'd STILL give it a season 'holding off' from sacking him to save an asset (Mata). However, because it's the new Ferguson and Roman wants him here for the long term, the mentality of the club is completely different.

Scolari wanted to sell Drogba for Adriano but the clubs 'assets' came before the wishes of the coach, oh and the club gave the players actual power, that wasn't a media myth.

Well I guess your right about this one then.

[Thendo 1,088]

I wonder what he is going to do about our CL-squad which is looking quite thin now with neither of Matic or Salah allowed to play for us in CL and with KdB,Mata,Bertrand and Essien (who were suposed to take MvG's place) gone now aswell...

[ZOS 580]

I think Jose has a soft spot for united... Jose never did/said anything to prove me wrong

[Strike 7,474]

I wonder what he is going to do about our CL-squad which is looking quite thin now with neither of Matic or Salah allowed to play for us in CL and with KdB,Mata,Bertrand and Essien (who were suposed to take MvG's place) gone now aswell...

Nothing to do about the CL squad. Anyway it's 7 games (at most) in the CL. Shouldn't be much of a problem. Use Matic and Salah in the Premier League games preceding CL games then rotate to the other options in CL

[Term-X 7,891]

I think Jose has a soft spot for united... Jose never did/said anything to prove me wrong

United Ferguson

Hence why red nose told Jose before anyone else (bar family) of his pending retirement.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

@GrantJames

Some footballers care more about playing than anything else. Respect to mata.

Some managers always put the team first. Respect to Mourinho.

[Thendo 1,088]

Nothing to do about the CL squad. Anyway it's 7 games (at most) in the CL. Shouldn't be much of a problem. Use Matic and Salah in the Premier League games preceding CL games then rotate to the other options in CL

Yeah, that's true it's probably not a priority this year, but still 5 players out (counting MvG) altough I guess Ake is going to be part of the squad tho. Just hope we don't get any major injury crisis.

[Shane 2,275]

No he doesn't.

Because he is contradicting himself.

When ba was about to leave he blocked it because it will strengthen the rival. This Jose had control.

Here mata to United he goes on and state how this club is special letting people go that don't want to be here.

No matter if it strengthen a rival.

Take a look at the deal sturridge to Liverpool. Did the board cared if it strengthen them? No!

Similar here, the money is good they accept.

I don't see the hand of full control from mourinho, but I still see the board having the biggest influence in what happens.

Contrary to what TX will have you believe that mourinho has all the power ala saf. And that's clearly not the case!

What are you talking about? Jose said himself he asked Mata did he want to leave, Juan said he did, So Jose allowed the sale. Your reading far to much into this.

If Jose wanted to keep Mata, he would have. The club would not have sold Mata behind his back. If Jose felt Mata was a valuable member of the team, Mata would be staying.

There's no of this, you have control over the Ba deal but not this deal bullshit. Jose has control on transfers and thats that.

[chelseathebest 150]

I believe Mourinho was wrong about Mata, but time will tell.

[termninja 5,290]

Ah that transfer of Mata...

Touchy subject really...

but. I wanted Mourinho here above everything. I wanted him here the moment I felt his winning mentality after his few press conferences seasons and seasons ago. My heart was almost broken when we sacked him, and I wanted him back every single day since that day until he came back. My heart was broken when he kicked us out of the CL and then won it. My heart was broken with every success he archived that wasn't with us.

I won't over-analyze his every move. Instead, I will give him some time because he is not your average Joe, but rather a very calculated man who planned his career a lot before.

My take on Mata's transfer?

Well, I'll be honest, I have always been disappointed with 1 thing is Mata's game - strength. He was so easy to disposses sometimes, so fragile, so slow, so helpless and useless when we were defending it actually made me laugh a few times. Like a talented little kid who was playing with older kids. That said, with Jose's approach, mentality and ideas he simply didn't fit into a player profile he wanted.

Sadly, even though Mata brings enough quality with his creativity, he couldn't express that enough when on pitch due to our, dull until recently, strikeforce. Things may have went a different way if we had brought a lethal striker who would score week and week out, but the fact is that we didn't...and Mata truly suffered for it.

I really like 2 things though. Jose wanted Mata away, and we sold him. It's a good thing to see he has the full support to make such radical moves within the club. It's something that makes me really happy. Let the man do his job which he knows really well.

Transfer of Mata is actually good for us this season. Lots of money back, Manchester who will aid us in the title race and maybe even sell Rooney in the summer. They will hurt our rivals and we will only profit from it.

If someone had asked me would I take 37m pounds (club record btw), PL title this season and Jose being able to work without restrictions, I would've said yes without thinking at all. There is always a price in life though

Again, a touchy subject I'll repeat, but let's sit it out and see what happens.

[The_Flash 1,144]

Forget Rooney can we have Chicharito, he scores for fun

[Rmpr 8,977]

FUCK OFF MOURINHO, I CANT EVEN SPEND A FULL DAY WITHOUT BEING BLOWN OUT BY TRANSFER NEWS!

[GZ25 45]

Forget Rooney can we have Chicharito, he scores for fun

If you can't stop him scoring against Chelsea, buy him.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Forget Rooney can we have Chicharito, he scores for fun

You don't want Rooney but you want an even bigger cunt? Well...