The Mourinho Thread

[Fulham Broadway 17,810]

it would be my pleasure...

and i dont demand any wages. just one condition - i get to kick cesc in the nads.

You'll have to check hes got any first !

[DYC. 7,542]

Hey guys, if Mourinho doesn't survive after Porto I will apply for the manager role. My back room team would be:

Assistant Managers: @DYC., @OhForAGreavsie, @lionsden

Coaching staff: @Magic Lamps (fitness), @Peace. (technique), @The Chels (defending), @Tomo (goalkeeping), @Muzchap (attacking).

Scouting team: @Spike (chief), @stroey, @Fulham Broadway, @Stats

Cheerleaders: @Jason, @BlueLion, @didierforever

I'm bringing in a new DoF too: @Special Juan

I'm ready to bring us back into the top 4 at the very least, this season.

Edit:

Almost forgot a very important staff member! Our new tea lady: @Leif.

I'm honoured.

A few demands:

1. £10 mil a year. I'm not greedy.

2. No press. Ever.

3. Private helicopter. All expenses paid. Not by me.

4. Batmobile + Batcave.

5. Jennifer Lopez as my personal assistant.

6. Get rid of the ugly male cheerleaders.

Non-negotiable.

[didierforever 7,349]

I'm honoured.

A few demands:

1. £10 mil a year. I'm not greedy.

2. No press. Ever.

3. Private helicopter. All expenses paid. Not by me.

4. Batmobile + Batcave.

5. Jennifer Lopez as my personal assistant.

6. Get rid of the ugly male cheerleaders.

Non-negotiable.

how dare you? :lol:

[DYC. 7,542]

how dare you? :lol:

Male cheerleaders are an abomination.

[Fernando 6,743]

The team is largely unchanged from last season, so if money won the title, money caused this problem as well. If Mourinho won the title, he also caused this problem. If the players won the title, they're also to blame for what's going on. It's not fair to say money won the title last season, not Mourinho, but he's to blame for what's going on now.

No but money has made it possible for managers to win titles.

Can't understand why I should feel sympathy for a manager just because he won a tittle when it was expected because of money spent.

There's nothing amazing about winning a PL when you spend a lot of money.

If anything, minnows like Pellegrini and Mancini winning a tittle shows that it's nothing special if you spend good money on players.

When you spend a standard is expected. Simple and nothing more.

[kmk108 1,186]

No but money has made it possible for managers to win titles.

Can't understand why I should feel sympathy for a manager just because he won a tittle when it was expected because of money spent.

There's nothing amazing about winning a PL when you spend a lot of money.

If anything, minnows like Pellegrini and Mancini winning a tittle shows that it's nothing special if you spend good money on players.

When you spend a standard is expected. Simple and nothing more.

I wouldn't exactly call Pellegrini and Mancini minnows. They've won plenty of titles.

[kmk108 1,186]

No but money has made it possible for managers to win titles.

Can't understand why I should feel sympathy for a manager just because he won a tittle when it was expected because of money spent.

There's nothing amazing about winning a PL when you spend a lot of money.

If anything, minnows like Pellegrini and Mancini winning a tittle shows that it's nothing special if you spend good money on players.

When you spend a standard is expected. Simple and nothing more.

You're still not giving the manager credit for winning and giving him blame for losing.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Let's just win tomorrow - who knows what could happen,we could find some amazing form out of the blue

Mourinho might have a visit from the Ghost of Xmas past - he might turn from Defence King to Attacking King

Who knows!

Just need to beat a decent team, follow up with a few wins in the league, get to the summer and re-evaluate.

I don't see much changing until the summer, would have happened already I think.

So if that is the case - let's just try to win as much as possible between now and then!

[Fernando 6,743]

I wouldn't exactly call Pellegrini and Mancini minnows. They've won plenty of titles.

What has Pellegrini won before City?

You're still not giving the manager credit for winning and giving him blame for losing.

They do get some credits, but there is no need to die for someone like this manager when you can get the same results with someone else. Someone who is less controversial and might have a better philosophy then this guy.

[Soofi 32]

I already see some of the fake fans coming out to fire him, and I need to back our legend. We need him.

Jose is the best manager in the world by quite some distance, only Ancelotti and maybe Pep even come close, but I still think Pep is a checkbook manager and hasn't really been tested when it comes to building a team himself.

We are just getting unlucky. A lot of these plastics are trying to poison our fan base but we just need to stick it out.

Reasons why we are losing:

1. Refs always robbing us. I am not going to say full out conspiracy, but there is clearly some collusion between refs when it comes to Chelsea.

2. Players. Our players are not good enough. Its clear that the likes of Fabregas, Oscar, Hazard, Costa, etc are not the caliber of players that Chelsea needs and the board failed Jose in getting proper starters that would help us challenge for a European spot, and now it looks like we won't be able to get it. Not Jose's fault at all if we are being honest (looking at you Emenalo).

3. Pure unlucky. Honestly, just look at how many matches we didn't win due to luck: Liverpool, Spurs (that Lloris save), Man City, etc. Sometimes luck just can't go our way when we need it and we can't really blame anyone else but God for this. In an alternate universe we could have won these games and been at least upper mid table, if not CL spot.

4. No real leaders. When you look at the squad, who is really that voice that can bring the team together? No one. We lost our spine. Without the likes of Ashley Cole, Cech, Kalou, how can we expect this team to win? We really need a Terry type character in the room, and we simply don't have it at the moment.

5. Players are not focused on tracking back enough. We made great progress in getting rid of the lazies early on in Mourinho's time here with KDB and Mata, but I dont think we did enough. It's clear that some of these players are more interested in taking on the defenders and pulling out some flair moves instead of tracking back their man and working for the team. Even Costa is joining in now and pretending to be a winger. Its getting really bad and I think getting rid of these "flair" players is a necessity before we can really see progress. When your attackers are more interested in looking to score and assist than defending, you know you have a problem. You can out-defend a team, but you can't really outscore one. Fundamentals need to come first.

6. Youth are letting down our club. We seem to have the most arrogant and least skilled youth around. The likes of Barca and Bayern seem to have some very down to earth players coming through their ranks, and we are stuck with the likes of RLC and co. Its just annoying at this point as they seem more interested in playing time than developing PL experience. They need to be more patient and humble, they wont get playing time until they get more PL experience.

[kmk108 1,186]

What has Pellegrini won before City?

He won titles at all but one stop in SA before going to Europe. He got Real Madrid to their highest point total, losing by 3 points to a Barcelona team that's considered one of the best in history. He got Malaga to their highest ever point total and took them to fourth and getting a Champions League spot.

[edetarod 2,155]

I already see some of the fake fans coming out to fire him, and I need to back our legend. We need him.

Jose is the best manager in the world by quite some distance, only Ancelotti and maybe Pep even come close, but I still think Pep is a checkbook manager and hasn't really been tested when it comes to building a team himself.

We are just getting unlucky. A lot of these plastics are trying to poison our fan base but we just need to stick it out.

Reasons why we are losing:

1. Refs always robbing us. I am not going to say full out conspiracy, but there is clearly some collusion between refs when it comes to Chelsea.

2. Players. Our players are not good enough. Its clear that the likes of Fabregas, Oscar, Hazard, Costa, etc are not the caliber of players that Chelsea needs and the board failed Jose in getting proper starters that would help us challenge for a European spot, and now it looks like we won't be able to get it. Not Jose's fault at all if we are being honest (looking at you Emenalo).

3. Pure unlucky. Honestly, just look at how many matches we didn't win due to luck: Liverpool, Spurs (that Lloris save), Man City, etc. Sometimes luck just can't go our way when we need it and we can't really blame anyone else but God for this. In an alternate universe we could have won these games and been at least upper mid table, if not CL spot.

4. No real leaders. When you look at the squad, who is really that voice that can bring the team together? No one. We lost our spine. Without the likes of Ashley Cole, Cech, Kalou, how can we expect this team to win? We really need a Terry type character in the room, and we simply don't have it at the moment.

5. Players are not focused on tracking back enough. We made great progress in getting rid of the lazies early on in Mourinho's time here with KDB and Mata, but I dont think we did enough. It's clear that some of these players are more interested in taking on the defenders and pulling out some flair moves instead of tracking back their man and working for the team. Even Costa is joining in now and pretending to be a winger. Its getting really bad and I think getting rid of these "flair" players is a necessity before we can really see progress. When your attackers are more interested in looking to score and assist than defending, you know you have a problem. You can out-defend a team, but you can't really outscore one. Fundamentals need to come first.

6. Youth are letting down our club. We seem to have the most arrogant and least skilled youth around. The likes of Barca and Bayern seem to have some very down to earth players coming through their ranks, and we are stuck with the likes of RLC and co. Its just annoying at this point as they seem more interested in playing time than developing PL experience. They need to be more patient and humble, they wont get playing time until they get more PL experience.

4/10

[manpe 10,861]

Without the likes of Ashley Cole, Cech, Kalou, how can we expect this team to win? We really need a Terry type character in the room, and we simply don't have it at the moment.

5. Players are not focused on tracking back enough. We made great progress in getting rid of the lazies early on in Mourinho's time here with KDB and Mata, but I dont think we did enough. It's clear that some of these players are more interested in taking on the defenders and pulling out some flair moves instead of tracking back their man and working for the team. Even Costa is joining in now and pretending to be a winger. Its getting really bad and I think getting rid of these "flair" players is a necessity before we can really see progress. When your attackers are more interested in looking to score and assist than defending, you know you have a problem. You can out-defend a team, but you can't really outscore one. Fundamentals need to come first.

6. Youth are letting down our club. We seem to have the most arrogant and least skilled youth around. The likes of Barca and Bayern seem to have some very down to earth players coming through their ranks, and we are stuck with the likes of RLC and co. Its just annoying at this point as they seem more interested in playing time than developing PL experience. They need to be more patient and humble, they wont get playing time until they get more PL experience.

I quoted the part from where I started laughing hard, the exact moment being midway through "Kalou" And I almost took you seriously

[kmk108 1,186]

I already see some of the fake fans coming out to fire him, and I need to back our legend. We need him.

Jose is the best manager in the world by quite some distance, only Ancelotti and maybe Pep even come close, but I still think Pep is a checkbook manager and hasn't really been tested when it comes to building a team himself.

We are just getting unlucky. A lot of these plastics are trying to poison our fan base but we just need to stick it out.

Reasons why we are losing:

1. Refs always robbing us. I am not going to say full out conspiracy, but there is clearly some collusion between refs when it comes to Chelsea.

2. Players. Our players are not good enough. Its clear that the likes of Fabregas, Oscar, Hazard, Costa, etc are not the caliber of players that Chelsea needs and the board failed Jose in getting proper starters that would help us challenge for a European spot, and now it looks like we won't be able to get it. Not Jose's fault at all if we are being honest (looking at you Emenalo).

3. Pure unlucky. Honestly, just look at how many matches we didn't win due to luck: Liverpool, Spurs (that Lloris save), Man City, etc. Sometimes luck just can't go our way when we need it and we can't really blame anyone else but God for this. In an alternate universe we could have won these games and been at least upper mid table, if not CL spot.

4. No real leaders. When you look at the squad, who is really that voice that can bring the team together? No one. We lost our spine. Without the likes of Ashley Cole, Cech, Kalou, how can we expect this team to win? We really need a Terry type character in the room, and we simply don't have it at the moment.

5. Players are not focused on tracking back enough. We made great progress in getting rid of the lazies early on in Mourinho's time here with KDB and Mata, but I dont think we did enough. It's clear that some of these players are more interested in taking on the defenders and pulling out some flair moves instead of tracking back their man and working for the team. Even Costa is joining in now and pretending to be a winger. Its getting really bad and I think getting rid of these "flair" players is a necessity before we can really see progress. When your attackers are more interested in looking to score and assist than defending, you know you have a problem. You can out-defend a team, but you can't really outscore one. Fundamentals need to come first.

6. Youth are letting down our club. We seem to have the most arrogant and least skilled youth around. The likes of Barca and Bayern seem to have some very down to earth players coming through their ranks, and we are stuck with the likes of RLC and co. Its just annoying at this point as they seem more interested in playing time than developing PL experience. They need to be more patient and humble, they wont get playing time until they get more PL experience.

Refs aren't blatantly robbing us. They're just decisions that didn't go out way when they could. Every team deals with this.

I can't believe you said Hazard isn't good enough for our club. He's been one of the best players in the world and is currently slumping.

We have had some bad luck but we deserved to lose to Liverpool and were never in the City match. The Tottenham draw was deserved as well.

I agree with lack of leadership and I think this is singlehandedly the biggest problem. Reliable Leadership in management as well as amongst the players.

Attacking players have a primary job of attacking and focusing on the attack in order to score. Defensive work is secondary. Their focus should be with attack. I expect them to track back and defend but to say an attacking player should make defense primary and attack secondary is foolish.

The youth is one of the most talented squads in the world. They are not lacking in talent at all. They're just not experienced in senior team action. They can't get that without match time, something they're not getting.

[MefiX19 1,092]

I already see some of the fake fans coming out to fire him, and I need to back our legend. We need him.

Jose is the best manager in the world by quite some distance, only Ancelotti and maybe Pep even come close, but I still think Pep is a checkbook manager and hasn't really been tested when it comes to building a team himself.

We are just getting unlucky. A lot of these plastics are trying to poison our fan base but we just need to stick it out.

Reasons why we are losing:

1. Refs always robbing us. I am not going to say full out conspiracy, but there is clearly some collusion between refs when it comes to Chelsea.

2. Players. Our players are not good enough. Its clear that the likes of Fabregas, Oscar, Hazard, Costa, etc are not the caliber of players that Chelsea needs and the board failed Jose in getting proper starters that would help us challenge for a European spot, and now it looks like we won't be able to get it. Not Jose's fault at all if we are being honest (looking at you Emenalo).

3. Pure unlucky. Honestly, just look at how many matches we didn't win due to luck: Liverpool, Spurs (that Lloris save), Man City, etc. Sometimes luck just can't go our way when we need it and we can't really blame anyone else but God for this. In an alternate universe we could have won these games and been at least upper mid table, if not CL spot.

4. No real leaders. When you look at the squad, who is really that voice that can bring the team together? No one. We lost our spine. Without the likes of Ashley Cole, Cech, Kalou, how can we expect this team to win? We really need a Terry type character in the room, and we simply don't have it at the moment.

5. Players are not focused on tracking back enough. We made great progress in getting rid of the lazies early on in Mourinho's time here with KDB and Mata, but I dont think we did enough. It's clear that some of these players are more interested in taking on the defenders and pulling out some flair moves instead of tracking back their man and working for the team. Even Costa is joining in now and pretending to be a winger. Its getting really bad and I think getting rid of these "flair" players is a necessity before we can really see progress. When your attackers are more interested in looking to score and assist than defending, you know you have a problem. You can out-defend a team, but you can't really outscore one. Fundamentals need to come first.

6. Youth are letting down our club. We seem to have the most arrogant and least skilled youth around. The likes of Barca and Bayern seem to have some very down to earth players coming through their ranks, and we are stuck with the likes of RLC and co. Its just annoying at this point as they seem more interested in playing time than developing PL experience. They need to be more patient and humble, they wont get playing time until they get more PL experience.

Not sure you are trolling or you really think like this? Jeez use smiles if you are trolling!

[zolayes 14,489]

I quoted the part from where I started laughing hard, the exact moment being midway through "Kalou" And I almost took you seriously

it was a reasonable effort at satire ,, but as you said it didnt need to be so long

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Mourinho supporters can continue to grasp on to their little straws and sit on their little perches thinking of themselves "better" than those of us alleged "fake" fans who see our predicament for what it is. The fact is Jose this season is being exposed on a massive scale as being a somewhat overrated manager. Jose is completely out of his depth and doesn't have what it takes to turn this mess around. Jose has failed in his promises so far. Jose made promises he knew he couldn't keep and has failed.

Jose has also been a disgrace to the club off the pitch with his unhinged and volatile nature. He lost all credibility with his players after the Carniero affair. Mourinho is supposed to be the leader of that dressing room. Jose should have been sacked after he left the team out to dry at Upton Park. This is all Jose's doing. He did this to himself.

We lose to Porto tomorrow, which is a very real possibility, then hopefully, he's gone and I'm absolutely sure these players, these world class players who look like pub players will become world beaters again.

Right now, Roman needs to wake the fuck up and save our season. If we're out of Champions league, there's no guarantee players like Hazard, Matic, Diego Costa and even Pedro will want to stick around for a CL-less season. Real Madrid sure could do with a guy like Matic and Pedro is already 28. At this stage of his career, he wants to be playing CL football. In the best scenario we bounce back to the CL two seasons from now, he'll be 30. There's little incentive for some of these guys to stick around. Others can offer them bigger wages than we do. These are scenarios the board and Roman seriously need to be pondering as they continue to drag their feet.

Roman also needs to surround himself with better footballing people. Heads in the boardroom must roll for what has happened this season. I'm not a fan of this Marina Granovskaia woman.

[Jase 43,479]

People are too harsh on Conte. He took over a Juve side that finished 7th and won three straight league titles. That's an amazing achievement, I don't care how you want to spin it. He lost in the CL QF against Bayern. That Bayern side would beat any team, as they proved by winning the treble. CL 13/14 was disastrous. But it's one campaign. They were also a bit unfortunate in that final game. I remember that terrible pitch and weather conditions. Game never should've been played. Nonetheless that was still very poor. But two European campaigns is not enough to draw conclusions imo. 102 points with +57 GD in the league that same season, that's fantastic.

He's also done good work with Italy. It's not the most talented team, especially in terms of creativity and firepower (Insigne's, Eder's and Pelle's form is encouraging, but they aren't world-beaters), but they're a tough team and they can hurt you on the break with some intelligent play. He's a good manager imo.

He wouldn't be my first choice as new head coach but I wouldn't mind him as an interim manager at all. His high energy style and motivational skills would be welcome in the current situation. But it depends on whether he speaks English.

I know but I didn't dismiss his achievement in the Serie A, did I? I just don't really like some aspects of his management style and I'm not really sure about his work with Italy. Sure, he got them into the Euros but even then, their performances have been unconvincing.

[The Skipper 20,609]

@The Skipper, I can't believe you forgot to make me Mikel's personal assistent. Jesus fuck, man

Dude, you're my agent. My Jorge Mendes. What are you smoking? Can't share you with Obiwan Mikel.

[The Skipper 20,609]

very good ;-)

Can I apply for the press officer role..... guess you need someone whose glass is half full and takes no nonsense from the negative bunch?

Yes. It was a vacant spot. You have the role. If you can show the same loyalty you showed for Jose for me, we'll be the most loved club in the world.