Chelsea Transfers

[LAM09 6,695]

3 hours ago, Thor said:

You guys really buy into these easy media narratives they keep repeating. 

Vic ain't it, regardless. And the age thing here, is probably how much they want to pay for the transfer fee given how many great years he has. 

Enzo and Caceido are early 20s, and that investment makes sense as you are getting 10+ good years from them. 

We are in no way close to becoming a feeder club.

You clearly haven't been a fan of Osimhen from the start, but you have yet to propose a viable alternative (Jackson has been uttered by you, which is already something in itself). If Osimhen offered half of what DD did during his first spell, the transfer fee would be a no-brainer in this current climate, with Lukaku going the opposite way.

We are selling starters to our rivals, clinching on to the idea of EL football, and we haven't got a WC player in the squad (James & Nkunku are too injury-prone rn to even consider them). Time will tell when Enzo is the first of the big signings to be shipped off. 

Edited June 1 by LAM09

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27 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

You clearly haven't been a fan of Osimhen from the start, but you have yet to propose a viable alternative (Jackson has been uttered by you, which is already something in itself). If Osimhen offered half of what DD did during his first spell, the transfer fee would be a no-brainer in this current climate, with Lukaku going the opposite way.

We are selling starters to our rivals, clinching on to the idea of EL football, and we haven't got a WC player in the squad (James & Nkunku are too injury-prone rn to even consider them). Time will tell when Enzo is the first of the big signings to be shipped off. 

Signing him for £100m+ on huge wages would be bonkers. The whole point of the setup is that the club should be able to find an Osimhen before he's at Napoli for £125m and wants £300k+ pw. The signing could very feasibly backfire horribly, leaving us crippled again. We have to learn and do better.

Personally I think NJ could have a breakout season and become the player we need, and think he deserves the chance. We need to be giving players more of a chance than this before we write them off for a more expensive option. If we go for a striker, I would like to go for a very different profile to NJ to give the manager variety, and certainly be spending max £60m / 150k pw.

You could argue only City don't need a no.9 in the PL, but only we are constantly linked with Osimhen for insane money. Wonder why?

[Thor 2,381]

54 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

You clearly haven't been a fan of Osimhen from the start, but you have yet to propose a viable alternative (Jackson has been uttered by you, which is already something in itself). If Osimhen offered half of what DD did during his first spell, the transfer fee would be a no-brainer in this current climate, with Lukaku going the opposite way.

We are selling starters to our rivals, clinching on to the idea of EL football, and we haven't got a WC player in the squad (James & Nkunku are too injury-prone rn to even consider them). Time will tell when Enzo is the first of the big signings to be shipped off. 

I wouldn't mind Osimhen - where am I not a fan? 100+ mil for him is ridiculous though. Nico and VO both scored 17 goals this season. Why are we paying that much for someone? Victor has had 1 good season. 1. O N E. Where in the world would we considering 120 mil a decent transfer for him? 

Nico literally gave you a better than DD 1st season performance - and you still complain... 

 

Which starters are we selling to rivals? Jorgi? He is a bench player at Arsenal. Havertz? Do you want him back? Kovacic? Again - why? He wasn't anything special at City aside from being another cog in a well oiled machine. A stop gap. 

We came 6th in a pretty miserable season as far as continuity and injuries go. DD had seasons of barely cracking 10 goals and was lauded because of how our team clicked and because we were winning. Jackson would be equally praised if our defenders could defend and our manager set our midfield up correctly from the start of the season. No one wants to wait at all. No one here has the slightest bit of patience. We literally watched a young team get better - and now we want to add more players for 100 mil+ when they themselves are unproven. 

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I'd take Zirkzee before VO. 

[Mário César 970]

I like osihmen, but these prices for a player who has only had one good season are very risky

frankly I don't think any club is going to pay 100M pounds for him 

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25 minutes ago, Mário César said:

I like osihmen, but these prices for a player who has only had one good season are very risky

frankly I don't think any club is going to pay 100M pounds for him 

Yeah I really like him too, lots of amazing attributes but he also has big limitations and it is way too big of a risk for the money being discussed (~£115m+, ~300k+ pw?)

For reference Nicolas Jackson is on £65k per week and cost £29.8m.

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

 

If true, that would mean Chalobah is going to be sold...

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1 hour ago, Mário César said:

I like osihmen, but these prices for a player who has only had one good season are very risky

frankly I don't think any club is going to pay 100M pounds for him 

He's not the biggest priority, we need to sort out the defense first before worrying about spending 100 million in attack!

Maresca needs to figure his best CB combo as soon as possible as there is no Thiago Silva to lead the team anymore

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10 hours ago, Pizy said:

Using his age as a turnoff is silly and kind of concerning as well. The dude is 25. Not even in his prime yet. He ain’t 30. The meme’s about our ownership only wanting to buy 17 year olds is starting to becoming reality. 

They are (and should be) mandating a top 4 finish this coming season. And yet they want to give a brand new manager some unproven 20 year striker who will have to hit the ground running? It makes no sense.

I don’t want Osimhen as I’ve say for the past couple of weeks but his profile in terms of age and expericend is exactly what we should want. Someone 23-25, proven at a high level, and someone we can be confident in coming and scoring straight away.

This is all media gossip, nobody from, the club has actually stated this.

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10 hours ago, Pizy said:

Using his age as a turnoff is silly and kind of concerning as well. The dude is 25. Not even in his prime yet. He ain’t 30. The meme’s about our ownership only wanting to buy 17 year olds is starting to becoming reality. 

They are (and should be) mandating a top 4 finish this coming season. And yet they want to give a brand new manager some unproven 20 year striker who will have to hit the ground running? It makes no sense.

I don’t want Osimhen as I’ve say for the past couple of weeks but his profile in terms of age and expericend is exactly what we should want. Someone 23-25, proven at a high level, and someone we can be confident in coming and scoring straight away.

I don’t think age is the concern. They’re signing a 26 year old CB it looks like 

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If the move happens as being reported by Romano, it is astute business. Sad to lose an academy product but if Chalobah goes, we have a ready made replacement with PL experience and suits Maresca’s style of play and helps us with FFP. Tosin is a good defender. There is not much difference between the two as well, but Tosin is more experienced playing in a back 4 over a whole season.

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DiMarzio is saying that Chelsea haven’t followed up after one meeting with Osimhen’s agents. Wages and fee is the issue.

[OneMoSalah 8,754]

On 31/05/2024 at 04:35, Vesper said:

Lima has insane potential

So does every other player we’ve signed apparently.

Point is, Reece is 24 and Gusto is 21. Makes 0 sense. Doesn’t make sense long or short term.

 

Also Tosin Adarabioyo? Seriously? Fucking hell. Signing another 3/4th choice CB. Wouldn’t get a game ahead of Disasi or Chalobah.

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2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

So does every other player we’ve signed apparently.

Point is, Reece is 24 and Gusto is 21. Makes 0 sense. Doesn’t make sense long or short term.

In situations like this imo they should just sign him for Strasbourg and stick a release clause in his contract we (or anyone) could trigger in the future for a healthy markup on whatever they pay now. What the fuck is the point in the multi club model otherwise.

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i really really hope we dont regret not going for osimhen. i have a feeling we will.

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5 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

In situations like this imo they should just sign him for Strasbourg and stick a release clause in his contract we (or anyone) could trigger in the future for a healthy markup on whatever they pay now. What the fuck is the point in the multi club model otherwise.

Maybe they could. But again Strasbourg’s fanbase have made it clear they have no desire to be in any multi club model & want BlueCo out.

Plus I don’t think we should just sign players for the sake of it either, multi club model or not. If these players are going to play at any club with the intention of coming here, yes, go for it but when Reece and Malo are 24 and 21, both top players who will likely never need replacing in the next 5-7 years, why bother signing him? Unless there is doubts around one of them? I don’t get the whole signing players for the sake of it mentality, just so other clubs don’t get them etc - look at Mudryk for example he was 100% in that category for me.

I’d be surprised if we continue to pursue the multi club model in all honesty after the backlash from Strasbourg’s fanbase. 

Edited June 1 by OneMoSalah

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4 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

why bother signing him? Unless there is doubts around one of them?

I am just assuming he's cheap (didn't even check) and they think they can spin him around after a few years and sell him for a bunch of profit in the future. That also puts them in a position to consider selling Reece in the next 1-2 years for huge profit too, if he has enough of an injury free run to get clubs interested. Not saying it is what I want, but the kind of cold reasoning I've come to expect from them.