Chelsea Transfers

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✅ £50m fee agreed

✅ 5 year + 1 optional year contract agreed

⏳ Medical to be completed before joining the squad for pre-season

 

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[whats happening 1,538]

12 minutes ago, bluesman2610 said:

https://www.90min.com/posts/Chelsea-alerted-to-potential-dayot-upamecano-availability

 

Is he still worth it? I remember him being a top choice only just a season ago

bayern fans were saying that he was shit

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[Jype 6,398]

14 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Plus, one season stats guarantee nothing, as we almost burn ourselves with Palace's superstar Wan-Bissaka, to give an example.

When Sarri came only the top names were mentioned in this thread and suddenly we went from expecting Chiesa and nothing less to praying that we can snag some reasonably decent bloke from Leeds, who doesn't even want to come here in the first place.

Well first of all, Raphinha's been at Leeds since their promotion to the PL so two seasons. Been playing at a similarly high level both years.

Second of all, is Federico Chiesa really the best alternative you could think of? The man's best career season is 10 league goals in the Serie A for fucking Fiorentina who are basically the Leeds of Italy, nothing more than a mid-table side in a league that's much worse than the EPL. For Juve he's not exactly been anything special either, 10G + 10A in one and a half league seasons before his ACL injury.

 

[DDA 9,694]

6 minutes ago, Jype said:

Well first of all, Raphinha's been at Leeds since their promotion to the PL so two seasons. Been playing at a similarly high level both years.

Second of all, is Federico Chiesa really the best alternative you could think of? The man's best career season is 10 league goals in the Serie A for fucking Fiorentina who are basically the Leeds of Italy, nothing more than a mid-table side in a league that's much worse than the EPL. For Juve he's not exactly been anything special either, 10G + 10A in one and a half league seasons before his ACL injury.

 

I would personally take Chiesa over Raphinah.

Despite the stats, there is something special about that lad.

 

[Blue Armour 4,324]

5 minutes ago, DDA said:

I would personally take Chiesa over Raphinah.

Despite the stats, there is something special about that lad.

 

On the fence about Raphinha.

I know people like to make this comparison with Mane,. but when Mane played with Southampton I used to hate him as an opposition player. Because he was so dangerous! I don't have the same impression about Raphinha.

Edited July 9, 2022 by Blue Armour

[Jype 6,398]

4 minutes ago, DDA said:

I would personally take Chiesa over Raphinah.

Despite the stats, there is something special about that lad.

Yea I'm not saying he's a bad player, far from it actually and I rate him highly as well. 

Just the comparison seems weird when one is being portrayed as some world beater and the other as some bum who might as well be playing in Turkey so the Polish dude has such an obvious agenda against Raphinha.

[Clockwork 1,794]

8 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

On the fence about Raphinha.

I know people like to make this comparison with Mane,. but when Mane played with Southampton I used to hate him as an opposition player. Because he was so dangerous! I don't have the same impression about Raphinha.

Don’t understand the Mane comparison, i see Mahrez in Raphinha. He doesn’t move and make those runs that Mane makes. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,126]

9 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Don’t understand the Mane comparison, i see Mahrez in Raphinha. He doesn’t move and make those runs that Mane makes. 

You haven't watched Raphinha at all have you? 

[Blue Armour 4,324]

Just now, Clockwork said:

Don’t understand the Mane comparison, i see Mahrez in Raphinha. He doesn’t move and make those runs that Mane makes. 

I think some people see his workrate and tackling., and base their judgement on that.

[Mário César 1,021]

no way Juve will aceppt chiesa selling 

no way 

Don't waste your time thinking about that 

[Vegetable 830]

22 minutes ago, Jype said:

Yea I'm not saying he's a bad player, far from it actually and I rate him highly as well. 

Just the comparison seems weird when one is being portrayed as some world beater and the other as some bum who might as well be playing in Turkey so the Polish dude has such an obvious agenda against Raphinha.

I have obvious agenda against big-money-low-yield transfers. 

Chiesa was almost universally considered the next big thing before injury and all the to clubs were after him at the time. Raphinia did decent in mid-table club and outgrew it (fair enough, but still) and is "open to talks" with us, if his preferred move won't work out. Seriously you think it's weird comparison?

I can understand such hassle for Coman or Gnabry, but making clowns of ourselves and paying big just isn't worth it for me here. He may (or may not) do better than Zyiech, but it's not an improvement to next level that we need.

Btw. I'd much rather like to see someone with worse stats but will play for the badge, than some, who will consider this his 9-5 job. It's much harder for footballers to play their top if they don't have a heart for the club and we can see it in our squad as well. If top winger is not available just don't get one instead of paying 100s of millions for shifting temporary solutions season after season, I thought we learnt this the hard way already.

Edited July 9, 2022 by Vegetable

[Tomo 21,733]

1 hour ago, Vegetable said:

When Sarri came only the top names were mentioned in this thread

Really? IIRC main names that we were being linked with the most before the ban was announced were Ndombele, Pepe and Jovic.

Not only non big names but 2 of them would have been an absolute disaster (Pepe I think is better than Arteta is making him look).

[Vegetable 830]

2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Really? IIRC main names that we were being linked with the most before the ban was announced were Ndombele, Pepe and Jovic.

Not only non big names but 2 of them would have been an absolute disaster (Pepe I think is better than Arteta is making him look).

Yeah, perhaps Sane, Sancho, SMS and Wan-Bissaka also. Still, they were the hot stuff back then and FM wonderkids, so I'd still count this as ambitious expectations (even if time shown that it would all pretty much be let-downs). And then we went to analyzing every left back and forward alive, lol

I may be naive, but I expected the takeover would either be a loud start and spectacular window or very carefully planned one, to avoid starting with another deadwood flop, but for now I feel it's neither.

Even if Raphinia is geniuenly good, we shouldn't be the second or third choice club for players of his weight, and if those statements are true it's beyond me how few people are suspicious about it. And he'll only come here if he runs out of other options, come on, he is not that big.

[YorkshireBlue 3,126]

19 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Yeah, perhaps Sane, Sancho, SMS and Wan-Bissaka also. Still, they were the hot stuff back then and FM wonderkids, so I'd still count this as ambitious expectations (even if time shown that it would all pretty much be let-downs). And then we went to analyzing every left back and forward alive, lol

I may be naive, but I expected the takeover would either be a loud start and spectacular window or very carefully planned one, to avoid starting with another deadwood flop, but for now I feel it's neither.

Even if Raphinia is geniuenly good, we shouldn't be the second or third choice club for players of his weight, and if those statements are true it's beyond me how few people are suspicious about it. And he'll only come here if he runs out of other options, come on, he is not that big.

He may not be that big mate, but let's me honest neither are we in comparison to other clubs.

[Alabama 1,992]

17 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Yeah, perhaps Sane, Sancho, SMS and Wan-Bissaka also. Still, they were the hot stuff back then and FM wonderkids, so I'd still count this as ambitious expectations (even if time shown that it would all pretty much be let-downs). And then we went to analyzing every left back and forward alive, lol

I may be naive, but I expected the takeover would either be a loud start and spectacular window or very carefully planned one, to avoid starting with another deadwood flop, but for now I feel it's neither.

Even if Raphinia is geniuenly good, we shouldn't be the second or third choice club for players of his weight, and if those statements are true it's beyond me how few people are suspicious about it. And he'll only come here if he runs out of other options, come on, he is not that big.

Now a sensible post...

In my mind...the ship has sailed concerning Raphinha though he might end up here.....lots of quality and better attacking players are right there in the market and readily available...