Chelsea Transfers

[whats happening 1,538]

8 hours ago, Vesper said:

Plus he is dressing room poison

i dont think this is true.

main issue with him is his injuries. otherwise i would take him no question. would become our best player instantly.

[nyikolajevics 2,601]

2 minutes ago, whats happening said:

i dont think this is true.

main issue with him is his injuries. otherwise i would take him no question. would become our best player instantly.

Yes. But at least it's predictable that he gets injured by the time his sister has birthday and Carneval of Rio.

[Superblue 6,372]

I'm getting the feeling that Kounde could well not happen. 

The links with him have been obvious given the failed attempt for him last summer, but nothing has moved with it and now there have been a lot of links to Barca with him. I wonder if Tuchel is being given more free reign over targets whether he has more preferred options and the deal has run cold.

[Clockwork 1,794]

4 hours ago, King Kante said:

Honestly apart from the last six months (which were the last of his contract), what has been impressive about Dembele? Off the pitch he and his representatives are also meant to be absolute nightmares to deal with. 

Personally, I'd take Raphinha's graft and commitment over a flaky talent who has only shown decent/great form whenever he seems to be playing for a move or a new contract. 

Talent wise it is day and night, I get the Dembele criticism. I rather have him than a player I don’t think upgrades over our current players. 
 

Truth be told unless Tuchel changes his tactic to be more friendly toward our attackers we will be here next summer wanting the same signings out. Rinse and repeat. 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,534]

 

[LAM09 6,823]

7 hours ago, Strike said:

Don't see Boehly, Tuchel and co being the type to sign glamour players. The rumoured list of targets are all a coach's dream worker types -Rice, Sterling, Jesus, Raphinha

I'm all for that. We want players that play for the collective rather than themselves.  

3 hours ago, Pizy said:

Raphinha is basically a more athletic and direct Ziyech. A left footer who plays on the right. He is great at just getting the ball and taking on defenders. And he’s got the same sort of wand like delivery as Hakim. A player who can also shoot a bunch from long distance which many of our attacking players recently have been allergic to. Another positive is that he knows the league and won’t need time to settle to the pace of the game. Especially coming from a Leeds side who play balls to the wall, ridiculously fast paced football.

I'm slightly surprised that people are so keen on this transfer but see Richarlison as a dire move. Also, the same individuals are happy to see us go for his Brazilian understudy (Jesus) too.

At £50-60m for either, it shouldn't be hard to choose IMO.

Edited June 22, 2022 by LAM09

[Pizy 18,491]

22 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I'm all for that. We want players that play for the collective rather than themselves.  

I'm slightly surprised that people are so keen on this transfer but see Richarlison as a dire move. Also, the same individuals are happy to see us go for his Brazilian understudy (Jesus) too.

At £50-60m for either, it shouldn't be hard to choose IMO.

Other than his work rate, Richarlison doesn’t really do anything that well. Other than throw himself to the ground and act like a bastard. He’s not a prolific goal scorer, he’s not that quick, he’s merely okay with the ball at his feet, he’s not a towering presence in the air. If we signed him would he do a decent job? Probably. But I don’t think he’s good enough to elevate us to title contenders.

Raphinha is much more exciting. He’s got an amazing left foot and is extremely exciting in the ball. He’s already one of the best wide players in the PL and should only get better in a stronger team.

[DDA 9,698]

15 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Other than his work rate, Richarlison doesn’t really do anything that well. Other than throw himself to the ground and act like a bastard. He’s not a prolific goal scorer, he’s not that quick, he’s merely okay with the ball at his feet, he’s not a towering presence in the air. If we signed him would he do a decent job? Probably. But I don’t think he’s good enough to elevate us to title contenders.

Raphinha is much more exciting. He’s got an amazing left foot and is extremely exciting in the ball. He’s already one of the best wide players in the PL and should only get better in a stronger team.

Raphiniha is almost a carbon copy of Ziyech but a little fatser. I really don't see the point in getting him.

[Pizy 18,491]

5 minutes ago, DDA said:

Raphiniha is almost a carbon copy of Ziyech but a little fatser. I really don't see the point in getting him.

Very, very similar skill set but in a bigger, more athletic frame. Ziyech is so skinny and weak that he always gets pushed around. 

[Fernando 6,496]

I do want Raphinha. 

Richarlison I'm on the side, but I acknowledge he is good. 

If we go for both then we will going more of the same route where we play with false strikers like we are doing with Kai. 

I actually like that because it gives us a good balance and makes us more harder to play against especially in the CL.

[LAM09 6,823]

33 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Other than his work rate, Richarlison doesn’t really do anything that well. Other than throw himself to the ground and act like a bastard. He’s not a prolific goal scorer, he’s not that quick, he’s merely okay with the ball at his feet, he’s not a towering presence in the air. If we signed him would he do a decent job? Probably. But I don’t think he’s good enough to elevate us to title contenders.

Raphinha is much more exciting. He’s got an amazing left foot and is extremely exciting in the ball. He’s already one of the best wide players in the PL and should only get better in a stronger team.

I'm just stating which I'd prefer. However, in all fairness, neither will elevate us to title contenders. We should be solely targeting the best players available within our reach, not ones that are doing their bit for relegation sides or fifth choices for the sides we have ambitions of catching.

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

26 minutes ago, DDA said:

Raphiniha is almost a carbon copy of Ziyech but a little fatser. I really don't see the point in getting him.

 

20 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Very, very similar skill set but in a bigger, more athletic frame. Ziyech is so skinny and weak that he always gets pushed around. 

exactly, is that not the point? Ziyech's problem is that he is frail, weak and slow. He has great technique and those mean whipped in balls are a real danger, he just can't get them in often enough bc he is so easy to bully off the ball and can't beat players.

Ideally we would get rid of Timo, Hakim and get all three Sterling, Raphinha and Dembele. All three are completely different in style but are very fast, great on the ball and have output which is more than can be expected of our current crop.

[whats happening 1,538]

gnabry would be the best option. he's not that expensive either. but it looks like he does not want to come here or our people are not interested in him for some reason.

[Clockwork 1,794]

15 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

It sounds like Boehly stepped in and put this to rest.

 

 

I don’t think this is true, Matt Law said Lukaku was not wanting to stay, Tuchel would have give him another opportunity if he was committed. 
 

 

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10 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

I don’t think this is true, Matt Law said Lukaku was not wanting to stay, Tuchel would have give him another opportunity if he was committed. 
 

 

I think Marina would have held out for more from Inter and didn’t care if Lukaku was forced to stay. That could have been terrible for us going forward as far as team building and distractions. 
 

At the end of the day, we will probably never know the finer details.

[whats happening 1,538]

14 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

I think Marina would have held out for more from Inter and didn’t care if Lukaku was forced to stay. That could have been terrible for us going forward as far as team building and distractions. 

this makes sense, knowing how she operated

[ZAPHOD2319 4,534]

I hope he is given a serious roll and stays.

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

Barcelona currently doesn’t want to pay €60m for Kounde. They hope to bring down Sevilla’s asking price. There is still no offer either, because the economic levers must be activated first.

Edited June 22, 2022 by Blues Forever