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5 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

I actually did write here in 2015 that Conte would be the best choice for us.

Yes it is not your job to sack or hire managers. I am just saying what you wrote was even more simplistic than fernandos question.

The point is there will be suitable managers out there, if i followed other leagues like i use too i could probably earmark a few, but i don't, that would be the job of Roman and his advisors. If you were big on Conte in 2015 fair enough but you were 1 off a very few, i remember 1 person on here suggested him and got  (verbally) slapped down.

8 minutes ago, Jason said:

Name some names. Would like to see who you have in mind.

Well i would imagine we would first look at the "obvious" contenders, which would mean Simeone, Allegri, Ancelotti etc sounded out. If we did have to think more outside the box, i would imagine Jardim would be considered, maybe Sarri or possibly Marco Silva if he keeps it up. But as i have already alluded too, it's not my job to pick names and and even if i personally couldn't think of any, there will be option's out there that paid employee's of the club can identify, plus manager's would be chomping at the bit to come here as it's a no lose situation.

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4 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Well i would imagine we would first look at the "obvious" contenders, which would mean Simeone, Allegri, Ancelotti etc sounded out. If we did have to think more outside the box, i would imagine Jardim would be considered, maybe Sarri or possibly Marco Silva if he keeps it up. But as i have already alluded too, it's not my job to pick names and and even if i personally couldn't think of any, there will be option's out there that paid employee's of the club can identify, plus manager's would be chomping at the bit to come here as it's a no lose situation.

Okay Tomo, don't have to go all diplomatic with the response. Only asking for suggestions. Not sure I would agree with the last bit though. I mean sure we are a big club and have some good talented players but we seem to have gone off the rails in terms of ambition and some managers want to build something more than joining the club just because it's a big one. If they know they won't get the time, money to build a proper team and will get the sack when things go south, then it's unlikely they won't come. There's only so many times we can repeat this cycle - and we have done it quite a bit over the years - before managers view us a non-attractive club to join.

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16 hours ago, Tomo said:

I am not doubting Conte just yet but i always felt that "who can do better?" narrative to be quite simplistic.

Two year's ago a lot of people wanted to keep Jose because apparently there was no one better but alas, there was. If Conte's tenure crashes and burns at any point ofcourse there will be better option's out there.

To me it's simple. 

You need to get a coach with the vision of club. 

If we want to be like real Madrid then we need to spend big, which we are not doing as much. 

If we want to be frugal we need to get a manager that will work with the younger players like pochetino. 

So to me the club is at fault, look at the vision they had and went and got Mourinho.....

They need to know what is their vision and get a manager that can work with that. 

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3 hours ago, Tautvix said:

We played park the bus tactics a few times last season... Just when you win games like against Man City last season away you try to hide that... But if we didn't win that game we would all be having a go at Conte for parking the bus. Also Man City at home this season... We did park the bus. Conte is not more attacking coach compared to Jose.

Yeah I don't disagree we've gone more defensive when the situation calls for it. But the original point was Conte has no plan B in games, to which I direct at what manager actually ever does have a plan B in a game? Seldom do you see a team change tactically in any given game.

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58 minutes ago, Fernando said:

They need to know what is their vision and get a manager that can work with that. 

Let this notion go lol. Our vision isn't coach-dependent. Our success is based on head coaches doing what they can with the squad they're given by the board. This is not changing anytime soon and it's difficult to argue it when we've been as successful as we have. 

Right now it works because players seem to respond to new coaches, new manager syndrome so to speak. That's why we won't have a manager that will last >3 years, ideas get stale and players become comfortable and complacent. Hell any given top club now won't last with a manager longer than 3-4 years now. Fergie and Wenger were the last. 

I even see Zidane leaving/sacked from Real within 2 years.

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

Think people have become confused with the whole 'park the bus' approach. Not saying Conte hasn't been pragmatic in the big games but the difference between him and Mourinho is that while we do tend to be defensive against the big sides, we at least maintain some degree of attacking/counter-attacking threat under Conte. With Mourinho, there were so many games where we barely posed a threat and were happy to concede possession just so we stayed defensively solid to make sure we get that draw. Heck, I still remember we went to Basel(!!!), under Mourinho, and played so defensive that we had only ONE shot the entire game when months before that, we did a job on them under Benitez. Conte is pragmatic like Mourinho but in no way is he as defensive/negative as him. And just look at this stat of Mourinho...

 

Can you explain our attacking threat vs Man City a few weeks back? :)

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2 hours ago, LDN Blue said:

Yeah I don't disagree we've gone more defensive when the situation calls for it. But the original point was Conte has no plan B in games, to which I direct at what manager actually ever does have a plan B in a game? Seldom do you see a team change tactically in any given game.

You can't have two plan coming to a game unless you have at least a week to prepare. 

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Just read Conte's comments from his presser earlier and think he has gotta be careful in talking too much about the injuries and fatigue. He did make valid points and maybe he is trying to send a message to the board but cannot let that go overboard and allow the players to use them as an excuse for not playing well and getting the results. Have seen the likes of Fabregas, Cahill talk about them those issues recently and it is dangerous when the manager and players are doing that.

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why is he always changing hazard around the 80th minute where the game is still wide open? cant remember any other team that changes his best player when the game is still on the line. i would understand if he played badly, but that was not the case tonight. 

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2 minutes ago, Henrique said:

Conte won't survive the entire season. Same old story.

And what's the point of sacking him? The same thing will just happen with the new manager - win the league (or something) and then get sacked the following season.

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9 minutes ago, Jason said:

And what's the point of sacking him? The same thing will just happen with the new manager - win the league (or something) and then get sacked the following season.

seriously that is what is even more scary at this point than our bad performances. I have been a Chelsea fan for almost a decade and from the time that I have been a fan/supporter the one thing that we keep wanting is a manager that build a project at chelsea and that doesn't seem to happen at all. It is the same old story again and again.

 

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