The Mourinho Thread

[Rekin 835]

This is a really weird situation. Obviously its hard for the docs in that position, as they will get flamed hard if they leave a player on the floor (especially if he is injured). Mou not wanting them to remove Hazard from the pitch might make tactical sense, but neither they, or most doctors I bet, are really tactical masterminds (nor is it why they are hired). Unless this is something he has specifically discussed with them before (and even then its really a hard call) then he has little right to be angry for any longer amount of time.

As for demoting them, the timing is crap. If it is based on a long-standing issue, then summer would have been the better time. If it is based on the reactions from the doctors after the game (mouthing off, being disrespectful etc), then it is understandable but should perhaps be leaked to the media (as they will of course otherwise make Eva a victim).
IF it is based solely on the match incident, and the one Facebook post, then it is extremely harsh and petty, and something I have a really hard time standing behind.

We all know that Mourinho is quite smug and self-serving (and I say that as someone who likes him and think he has many redeeming qualities). The only question is if he would deflect blame and follow a personal vendetta to this degree, as it has cast a huge shadow over Chelsea's PR.

[NishC300 1,865]

If I'm Jose I'd be more worried if the feminists attack me for being a misogynist lol

[different level 1,056]

Eva didn't help the situation by posting that message on Facebook but you wouldn't be saying all of this if you were in her (or Jon Fearn's) place and your boss decided to throw you under the bus in the public for not doing anything wrong.

You're probably right. However, I'm looking at it from a sensible fan's perspective - just want to move on and stop giving this non-story publicity. And Eva could definitely do without the stupid facebook message. I mean why would you indirectly launch a public attack on your moody boss is beyond me, even if you hadn't done anything wrong.

[Henrique 9,133]

can clearly see in this video he had ago at both staff members, so the press need to fuck off

lol

So you beleive the problem is Eva, male or female? Mourinho was wrong to blame medical staff for getting into the pitch to chek a player's situation.

[ZOS 580]

Its not just about Eva or the other dude. Its about the image of the club and the division this whole thing will create in the dressing room. Say, how would Eden feel knowing these guys got in to trouble on his account? ... No one would pick a physio over Mourinho but this doesn't change the fact, Jose fucked up

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Most CEOs and leaders are narcissistic and in a few instances sociopathic. To lead you have to have a high opinion of yourself and illustrate to those that follow that your confidence cannot be shaken.

Look at some of worst people in history that were able to captivate large following they all were narcisstic and in some cases megalomaniacs. (I.e Hitler Stalin, Koresh, Manson etc. All dispicable human beings yet they were able to have many followers because they held unflappable conviction and people as a whole will follow these people in a flock mentality.

Clearly I'm not equating Mourinho to them but rather illustrating how much a dominant figure he is after all look how many people think he is above criticism and will label anyone who criticizes him as not a true Chelsea fan.

As for toxicity Mourinho has never stayed anywhere for a long not because he can't but because he burns bridges and makes enemies because he's blunt and doesn't give an F. He's too much Sonny and not enough Michael Corleone.

I'm not an Eva devotee or other such nonsense. I just don't understand airing out dirty laundry or scapegoating while refusing to take responsibility.

I mean I get that, I even think Mourinho shouldn't have been so public about that. Especially if it is meant to act as a deflective tactic to take the spotlight off a pretty dimwitted performance.

But I do think to call him toxic is jumping the gun a little bit. While he does rub people the wrong way, often on points of his own merits that hardly makes him toxic. If we look back on his career, he fell out with Abramovich because (and we can only go by speculation here of course) he had signings forced upon him as opposed to making his own decisions. He left Inter by mutual consent once he'd done it all and wanted a new challenge, which really just leaves Real & his first spell at Chelsea where he'd burned bridges. But then how much do you want to put on him?

I'm not going to blindly say Mourinho was right and Eva was wrong (lord know how that conclusion is being met by people), but he's not near as bad as is being made out by those who have criticised him.

[Billy. 2,742]

lol

So you beleive the problem is Eva, male or female? Mourinho was wrong to blame medical staff for getting into the pitch to chek a player's situation.

my point is that the press keep going on about her and keep failing to mention that Jon ran onto the pitch first, they seem to be just focusing on Eva because she is a female and good looking.

Sky seem to be the only ones that have spoke about both staff members

[Henrique 9,133]

I have heard some articles where some are saying Mourinho is angry with the lack of activity in the market. I don't understand this argument. Months ago people were saying Jose had full control of transfer activity.

Many said he was fucking genius because "he" sold Mata, Luiz, Bruyne and Lukaku and "he" bought Fabregas and Diego Costa and "he" still got profit. If he is angry with lack of activity in market, then perhaps he doesn't have full control of situtation, and I don't believe he does, because few clubs in the world allow the manager to have full control in transfer market, but no doubt he really have a word.

He only got himself to blame for the state of current squad.

[Henrique 9,133]

my point is that the press keep going on about her and keep failing to mention that Jon ran onto the pitch first, they seem to be just focusing on Eva because she is a female and good looking.

Sky seem to be the only ones that have spoke about both staff members

I won't deny that, but I don't know how that will change the way you evaluate Mourinho's behavior.

[yuvala 2,167]

I have heard some articles where some are saying Mourinho is angry with the lack of activity in the market. I don't understand this argument. Months ago people were saying Jose had full control of transfer activity.

Many said he was fucking genius because "he" sold Mata, Luiz, Bruyne and Lukaku and "he" bought Fabregas and Diego Costa and "he" still got profit. If he is angry with lack of activity in market, then perhaps he doesn't have full control of situtation, and I don't believe he does, because few clubs in the world allow the manager to have full control in transfer market, but no doubt he really have a word.

He only got himself to blame for the state of current squad.

Why?

If he's not fully incharge like u said, then he's got other people to blame.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

What he said?

These hoes ain't loyal.

[Pizy 18,888]

I have heard some articles where some are saying Mourinho is angry with the lack of activity in the market. I don't understand this argument. Months ago people were saying Jose had full control of transfer activity.

Many said he was fucking genius because "he" sold Mata, Luiz, Bruyne and Lukaku and "he" bought Fabregas and Diego Costa and "he" still got profit. If he is angry with lack of activity in market, then perhaps he doesn't have full control of situtation, and I don't believe he does, because few clubs in the world allow the manager to have full control in transfer market, but no doubt he really have a word.

He only got himself to blame for the state of current squad.

Mourinho himself has said many times since he's been back that every single transfer and sale is a club decision. He doesn't have sole control over these things.

He's always been active at every club in the transfer market. This is why I continue to believe that he's being told from above to work with the same team and same players. No major spending.

I refuse to believe that a manager as intelligent as José thinks that the exact same squad is enough to win the title again and advance further in the CL. He's being restricted here.

Hopefully his very visible frustration forces the club to back him.

[Billy. 2,742]

I won't deny that, but I don't know how that will change the way you evaluate Mourinho's behavior.

At the time the was with Jose, until somebody showed me that Hazard did ask me for help. Now i just think the whole thing has been blown out of control by the media and Eva stalkers. I do also believe that Eva should have stayed off Facebook. Nobody knows what has gone on since the game behind doors. Im sure we will find out tomorrow at the PC. For all we know Jose and said sorry to both staff members and all is forgotten

[gdlk 286]

all speaking for Eva and Mou, but what about players ? what they will think from now on when there is a clash? Our coach will decide if i need help from medic or not..

What will think Hazard from situation when he needed a medical support according to all ? Mou hates him and dont send medics - its rly complicated situation.

[cosmicway 1,333]

Those were football words spoken by Mourinho, in Portuguese language.
When say Hazard misses that pen against the Croatian team, anyone is going to lapse into Portuguese.

A cooling off period is called for, to be followed by talks for a negotiated solution.