The Mourinho Thread

[Thendo 1,088]

i don't understand how there's not a big ruckus on here about it, unless i missed it

Another non story really. The Sun trying to make it look like José assaulted him or something, I would be equally annoyed if some kid kept following me filming with their phone.

But the usual anti Mourinho brigade on this forum is probably incoming as soon as they get a smell of this story.

[hamad138 190]

Which football actually did carlo play at chelsea? Was it counter system or ball possesion?

[supporter 3,088]

And now Jose Mourinho is a violent / aggressive person ... boring, boring, boring!

Some people should begin to respect the privacy of each person, even famous people, and stop living like idiots looking to make selfies 24 hours a day and start to enjoy their own lives.

Postscript. With this post I'm not trying to insult anyone in this forum, I just want to clarify that I'm tired of seeing how the journalists are attacking Jose all day, every day.

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

Abramovich would be prepared to offer Guardiola a huge contract to tempt him to #Chelsea should the club part company with Mourinho. [bILD]

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Abramovich would be prepared to offer Guardiola a huge contract to tempt him to #Chelsea should the club part company with Mourinho. [bILD]

that would be a disaster

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

that would be a disaster

Worth a try imo...

[lucio 5,418]

And now Jose Mourinho is a violent / aggressive person ... boring, boring, boring!

Some people should begin to respect the privacy of each person, even famous people, and stop living like idiots looking to make selfies 24 hours a day and start to enjoy their own lives.

Postscript. With this post I'm not trying to insult anyone in this forum, I just want to clarify that I'm tired of seeing how the journalists are attacking Jose all day, every day.

he is kind of. he's a sneaky eye gouging coward. i suppose that counts as violence.

[supporter 3,088]

Not always the champion team in the Champions League does a good season from August to May. Last season Barcelona and Luis Enrique made their first six months of the season with a poor performance and bad results, and even Luis Enrique came close to be sacked in January.

But in the last five months of the season Barcelona managed to trace their season and they won the treble and everyone in Barcelona
were asking to Luis Enrique to continue being their manager.

Maybe at the end of the season we have won something important and some people regret having criticized Jose.

I love hearing about Guardiola. I hate this guy and I don't want to see Guardiola with us the next season, he was great in Barcelona because Barcelona had Messi and some players like Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Pique ... which between 2008 and 2012 won the World Cup and two European Championships with Spain.

In Germany Guardiola is a great coach because he has the best players in the Bundesliga, most of them being the backbone of Low's Germany.

But two years ago Guardiola against Real Madrid lost 5-0 in the semifinals. And the following year Barcelona crush Bayern in the semifinals again. And this year Guardiola has lost to Arsenal. And even Manchester City won last season against Guardiola.

Guardiola has the best image consultants of the story because everything in he seems wonderful, but seeing the actual results with Bayern Munich the truth is that Guardiola has lost in the last three years with Real Madrid (twice), Barcelona, Manchester City, Arsenal, Borussia Dortmund and Wolfsburg. Not everything is wonderful in the Guardiola's paradise.

But we have Jose Mourinho, IMO the best coach in the world, which is going through a bad time right now, but a manager who loves this club, who understands our philosophy (we won Champions League with Roberto Di Matteo placing the bus and playing in counterattack's style in a wonderful season) and a coach (Jose) which has the potential to win Champions League at the end of the season and I'm sure if we win Champions with Jose he will want to stay with us to build a dynasty like Ferguson with Manchester United.

I do not want to see Guardiola with us the next season and I do not want that Jose could come to feel that he is not at home because that's not true. Jose is the best manager in our history and he deserves our trust.

IMO yesterday we played a great game as a solid team, as we have done last season, and that's the right way. Together we are stronger.

[Amblève. 4,995]

that would be a disaster

As much as I hate Guardiola's antics, dude knows a thing or two about football, especially on the offensive end. If there's one coach in the world that could get the best out of our attacking players it's definitely him.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

It's harsh to say that Barcelona crushed him when the truth was that Guardiola was missing his best players for that leg. Robben, Ribery, Alaba out, Lewandowski far from being 100% fit, Bernat & Rafinha against Messi & Dani Alves. Lots of new players against an already established Barcelona team. And he still managed to dominate Barcelona both home and away. Take a fully fit Bayern against a Barcelona missing, let's not say Messi, but Neymar, Suarez and Iniesta. Surely that would have been a walk in the park for Guardiola.

Pep is the best thing that could happen to this club. Not only for footballing reasons, but he'd change the mentality of the whole institution that Chelsea is. We need to get rid of all this negativity bullshit and siege mentality, players have to enjoy the beautiful game, not go into games like it's a fecking war. I'd take my chances with this possession and risky football that Guardiola tries to implement wherever he goes, rather than this dull neverending 4231 and all the track back & work rate drama.

[couris 232]

He managed to ruin KDB, Mata, Oscar, Hazard. He is the special one indeed. Special kind of shit.

[Essien19 1,415]

Replacing Mourinho with his arch rival Guardiola would heat things up.

If i remember correctly, Mourinho said in the past that he would like to stay in England and maybe London.

So its crystal clear what will happen.

Yes, Guardiola knows how to orchestrate a football team but for me he is not better that the portuguese.

Furthermore Guardiola will change the team:

Terry, Cahill, Zouma (bad passing), Azpilicueta (not good enough with going forward) Matic (one dimensional left footy)

Ramires, Mikel, RLC (not good enough with the ball), Fabregas (Guardiola does not rate him anymore), maybe Willian too because of slowing the play down, the list goes on, would have to go.

I don't want that to happen!

Yes, guys like Musonda would get playing time, there would be good things too, but for me not enough.

His 3-5-2 failed miserablely, Van Gaal tested it enough.

If a new guy has to come, i prefer some young and visionary dude, someone like Tuchel from BVB.

But i stay with Jose, he loves the club more than some of his predecessors, you can't buy that!

[bethos1 802]

If he can't make us play decent football by the end of the season I don't see any reason to keep him here, surely 3 seasons is enough to make a team play proper football and not just for 5-6 months like he did last season.

[Spike 12,049]

He managed to ruin KDB, Mata, Oscar, Hazard. He is the special one indeed. Special kind of shit.

He didn't and hasn't ruined any of those players. de Bryune at the time wasn't playing well [even with limited minutes] and just couldn't make the cut; he had no right to be starting over any of the other players. Since he wanted first team game time the only logical conclusion was to sell him. Mata was horrible for 6 months and couldn't get a pass together, he was given much time but couldn't get into form. He also wanted to leave and his wish was granted. Hazard has performed amazingly for the last two seasons and has only hit bad form in the last several months. I don't see in what capacity Mourinho has 'ruined' these players.

Mourinho's modus operandi may not be ideal for those the players but there is no excuse for a player like Mata that was possibly the best player of the 12-13 to become rubbish overnight. Perhaps you don't remember at the time but Mata was bad. Really, really bad. Most people weren't that upset when he was sold for such a large fee. It is only in recent months that people are getting upset because of how Mata has played for van Gaal.

People can blame the manager all they want to but at the end of the day the players are the people that screw up or get it right out on the pitch. =

[Essien19 1,415]

If he can't make us play decent football by the end of the season I don't see any reason to keep him here, surely 3 seasons is enough to make a team play proper football and not just for 5-6 months like he did last season.

It's only fair to make demands, when you are in the driver's seat....who decides who comes and goes?!

I don't think Jose Mourinho has the final say.

After the transfer of Papy Mourinho stated that he didn't know the player, it seems to me that Baba wasn't his idea too, i think that says it all.

That was one of the reasons why he parted ways with Chelsea 2007 (ask Robben, he didn't want him to get sold) and is one of the reasons why Guardiola is most likely to leave Bayern at the end of the season (i'm just the coach, can't make transfers and the club knows how i will decide)

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Do you think Mourinho enjoys this kind of shit that's going down here?!

Is he really so convinced of himself, that an academic and proven winner let his judgement clouds by emotions?

Is he asking himself every day in front of the mirror; how can i be the villain again?!

Surely most of the stuff he tells the media is utter garbage and he knows it too, a man who is able to say things like

(envy is the biggest tribute shadows can do to a man) in a foreign language for him isn't plain stupid!

Maybe it's time for a little trip...

I often eat an fried egg with spinach and vegetables, for getting that done i don't need new fancy ingredients, i don't have to run to the supermarket therefore i save time and most importantly i don't need a new playbook, sorry i mean cookbook.

Simply, the effort keeps within limits but the result is the same; 3 points, sorry i mean fat belly.

Theoretical assumption: i don't have a job and my girlfriend demands a spectacular meal because their family is going to be in town,

but she only gives me little pocket money, but i have to be a good boy and make the most of it, otherwise a cruel punishment is coming...

Should i stick by the stuff which i know or should i go guns blazing and risk it all?

Keeping in mind, that some of the ingredients can't keep up with the taste of the unaffordable ones if a take choice number 2.

Everyone is entitled to have a different opinion about that, for example my father would stick to the first, because he doesn't like to take risks which look like a suicide mission.

My mother seeks the risk, boring is not enough, even if the job would be done and now everything is in shambles because of number 2, lol.

The prices for some ingredients happen for a reason, without some basic quality, only a magician could make it work.

Who is in possession of a magic ward?!

I don't have a problem with Guardiola but instead of making Hojbjerg, Kimmich, Gaudinio great, he often chooses to use Alonso and so on.

Who did he harvested in about ~3 years?! I don't see any new ingredients from their home garden...

Klopp is one of the best coaches in business, but apart from flashes (using championship players like Kirch against Real Madrid, no disrespect meant) without class he can't do it consistently.

Long story short: Give Mourinho guys like Alaba, Stones, Varane (the list goes on) and the form will begin to take shape,

otherwise there will be times where it won't be pretty.

I can only speak for myself, but i like the differences in the style of play and the definition "proper football" is not catholic.^^

It's a specialty from Wenger to justify his constant failure by stating he is still playing proper attacking football for most of the time,

but not during the decisive moments.

No harm meant.

[lucio 5,418]

He didn't and hasn't ruined any of those players. de Bryune at the time wasn't playing well [even with limited minutes] and just couldn't make the cut; he had no right to be starting over any of the other players. Since he wanted first team game time the only logical conclusion was to sell him. Mata was horrible for 6 months and couldn't get a pass together, he was given much time but couldn't get into form. He also wanted to leave and his wish was granted. Hazard has performed amazingly for the last two seasons and has only hit bad form in the last several months. I don't see in what capacity Mourinho has 'ruined' these players.

Mourinho's modus operandi may not be ideal for those the players but there is no excuse for a player like Mata that was possibly the best player of the 12-13 to become rubbish overnight. Perhaps you don't remember at the time but Mata was bad. Really, really bad. Most people weren't that upset when he was sold for such a large fee. It is only in recent months that people are getting upset because of how Mata has played for van Gaal.

People can blame the manager all they want to but at the end of the day the players are the people that screw up or get it right out on the pitch. =

mata had his fair share of good games, for us 13/14. palace , spurs , arsenal off the top of my head. I also remember him playing 2 spectacular passes, only for eto to mess up both. Jose just wasn't interested in him.

[kmk108 1,186]

mata had his fair share of good games, for us 13/14. palace , spurs , arsenal off the top of my head. I also remember him playing 2 spectacular passes, only for eto to mess up both. Jose just wasn't interested in him.

That's how I remember it. Jose didn't like his lack of defensive effort, which hasn't gotten better at United. He said that, until Mata put in more effort, he wasn't going to play.

[lucio 5,418]

That's how I remember it. Jose didn't like his lack of defensive effort, which hasn't gotten better at United. He said that, until Mata put in more effort, he wasn't going to play.

yep , and mata is a poor athlete , was never going to happen.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

mata had his fair share of good games, for us 13/14. palace , spurs , arsenal off the top of my head. I also remember him playing 2 spectacular passes, only for eto to mess up both. Jose just wasn't interested in him.

That's simply not true. Mata got a lot of chances and playing time, at the expense of more deserving players like KDB, one can argue. In the four months under Jose he played in 17 matches. The only good performances he had were against Arsenal in the league cup and the second half vs Spurs when he came off the bench. And it wasn't JUST about his defensive work, either. He kept getting dispossessed and pushed over every time he got the ball on the right wing in most of the other matches. He struggled really badly with having to receive the ball with his back to a defender.

[Adnane 1,101]

People often forget that Mata is more dispossesed than Fabregas, and is physically, really, really weak.

This kind of players need protection to succeed, or team tactics built around them and only for them to shine, like Benitez did with Mata.

I'd rather see José give Hazard the freedom he did in the last two seasons ( relative freedom, we have to admit ), than build all our game around Mata and make players like Hazard and Oscar defend for him ( like Benitez did ).

Because simply put, Hazard is 10 times a better footballer than Mata, and we can only have one of that kind of players with freedom with out ageing and slow defense.

José is dealing with what he inherited, deal with it yourself now...