The Mourinho Thread

[DYC. 7,542]

Let's not exagarate, there is absolutely no danger of relegation, despite this run we still have enough individual quality to make sure we end up at least in the top 7 at absolute worse, Liverpool and Spurs were shambolic last season yet finished top 6.

I remember before Jose returned I was asked what if he has a similar run to AVB do we sack him? I said at the time no because he has a track record to suggest things will eventually get better whereas AVB didn't and for the foreseeable I firmly stick by that.

We have to tread very carefully, even if we sack Jose and things at the start pick up under a new manager, there will eventually come a time where the honeymoon period wades off and the new man will have the tactical responsibility firmly on his shoulders, if we flake again, were back to square one of the managerial merry go round we were in.

I would rather gamble on Mourinho turning it around than any manager that could come in now if I'm honest,Klopp won't come here and I don't want Ancelotti back, especially not in a time of crisis, that winless run in 10/11 was much worse than even this.

That's a lie.

I always enjoy your posts though, even when I disagree.

[TheOneChan95 225]

He brought us the good times, so let's stick with him through the bad.

[Jokesy 53]

Starting Ivanovic each and every match is hilariously dumb.

To be fair on the poor guy, I don't think he was directly at fault for any of the goals today. I personally thought despite some errors, he had a better game than both Cahill(hah!) and Terry.

[Tomo 21,751]

That's a lie.

I always enjoy your posts though, even when I disagree.

FAir enough, obviously others including yourself will have different perspectives to me but for me that run in 10-11 between Sunderland 0-3 and Fulham 0-0 is the worst run we have been on in the Roman era, despite this shit storm right now I still believe our squad is young enough to recover (whether that's with Jose or not remains to be seen), but that season we had an ageing squad and I honestly thought we were heading down for some time, I think we would have if it werent for Munich, that allowed us to sign Eden and slowly recover culminating in last season's title.

[DDA 9,941]

I really hope Jose comes out swinging with fire and aggression next game. We win 8-0. Ivan cheers from the bench and RLC assists all 8.

Then again.. Pigs do not fly!

[LAB 1,030]

If anyone deserves some time and second chances here at Chelsea it's the legendary one. It's not even 100% his fault, players and board both play their parts. If you don't like or haven't yet experience Chelsea in bad times try to calm down and if you insist to cry do it quietly and with more respect please. This is Chelsea, we need to support our manager for once, enough with the sacking when the first difficulties show up.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

If anyone deserves some time and second chances here at Chelsea it's the legendary one. It's not even 100% his fault, players and board both play their parts. If you don't like or haven't yet experience Chelsea in bad times try to calm down and if you insist to cry do it quietly and with more respect please. This is Chelsea, we need to support our manager for once, enough with the sacking when the first difficulties show up.

The difficulties didn't just show up out of nowhere. They were created by the Special One.

[Billy. 2,742]

Like ive said before i dont want him to go right now because i dont see the point in what help it would do. BUT i cannot be the only thinking that Romans 'you're fired' finger is really twitching right now.

[Spike 12,049]

If anyone deserves some time and second chances here at Chelsea it's the legendary one. It's not even 100% his fault, players and board both play their parts. If you don't like or haven't yet experience Chelsea in bad times try to calm down and if you insist to cry do it quietly and with more respect please. This is Chelsea, we need to support our manager for once, enough with the sacking when the first difficulties show up.

Technically speaking, isn't this his second chance? Considering he has been sacked before.

[nullabletype 987]

Stability and long term vision has to come from both sides. Picking fights with your own staff is not a sign of stability. Signing players like falcao, relying on players like Ivanovic and failing (so far) to introduce players like Baba and Djilobodji is not a sign of long term vision. Relying on an agressive 'us-against-them' attitiude to motivate your players is not a sign of stabilty. Humiliating your own players like he did with Matic today is not a sign of stability. Talking like you're bigger than the club and daring the board to sack you is not a sign of stabilty.

For the record, in no way do i believe that the players are blameless in all of this. No matter who'se the manager above you, even if they are called Moyes, performances like these are unacceptable.

The club seemed largely reluctant to open the wallet in the last window, so a free Falcao signing is about as good as we were going to get. He cost nothing and is reportedly on lower wages than previous clubs which makes him a low risk signing. Plus, we know now for a fact that José isn't in complete control of signings so whether or not Falcao was his call or not only he and the club know.

Ivanovic has been grim and I would happily see him dropped. But I'll say what I believe, as I have said in other posts, it seems the squad are not playing for the manager and I suspect he's pick those who he trusts. As for integrating Baba, from what I've seen, which is very little, I think he looks good, but as I said before I'm not on the training ground every day so can't offer an opinion as to whether he's Chelsea caliber or not. Djilobodji or whatever he's called? Don't even know why we bought him, comes across as a panic buy and nothing more, he'll be off soon.

"Us against them attitude", all for it. Why not?

Calling out players? Good. He could call every one them out at the minute and they'd all deserve it. He wouldn't be the first great manager to do so either.

I'll give you picking fights with staff, but that has been blown up beyond reason. The club can move on from that.

[Billy. 2,742]

If anyone deserves some time and second chances here at Chelsea it's the legendary one. It's not even 100% his fault, players and board both play their parts. If you don't like or haven't yet experience Chelsea in bad times try to calm down and if you insist to cry do it quietly and with more respect please. This is Chelsea, we need to support our manager for once, enough with the sacking when the first difficulties show up.

Even a bad as we are right now mate, Ill be amazed if we ever go bad to the 'dark days'

[Kieran. 6,317]

Have to give him the rest of the season IMO

[Stats 7,147]

But who would replace them?

Baba is an unknown and RLC is not an option.

If we had replacements I would understand.

He got rid of all our suitable replacements. Mourinho brought this on himself.

[zolayes 14,489]

The "crisis" started during the summer when the board failed to bring our targets and we smelt that something is not going bad. I would give him more time, he clearly wants to stay for a long time. We have sacked too many managers before and the image was not good. Players are letting him down, they are not performing. I think international brakes came in good time for us. Let's take a break.

The "crisis" started during the summer when the board failed to bring our targets and we smelt that something is not going bad. I would give him more time, he clearly wants to stay for a long time. We have sacked too many managers before and the image was not good. Players are letting him down, they are not performing. I think international brakes came in good time for us. Let's take a break.

When we win Jose takes the credit ,, when we lose its the players ,, the refs ,, the board ,, the FA and of course WOMEN not to mention climate change

[Muzchap 8,966]

I really hope Jose comes out swinging with fire and aggression next game. We win 8-0. Ivan cheers from the bench and RLC assists all 8.

Then again.. Pigs do not fly!

They might do if David Cameron smuggles them on-board his private jet

[LAB 1,030]

The difficulties didn't just show up out of nowhere. They were created by the Special One.

Like i said, not entirely his fault. Ask the board please where were they doing their vacation in the summer.

Technically speaking, isn't this his second chance? Considering he has been sacked before.

Technically yes but the point is that i am trying to be melodramatic and you sir are getting in the way!!!

Well no, my point is that it seems wrong and knee-jerk reaction to me to quickly "abandon ship" for the second time with him as soon as something goes wrong. We have stability issues as a club too and it's not going to do us any more good to have some other manager (who?) in the middle of the October. What more will the new guy do? Make Ivanovic good again and Fabregas made of steel?

[Billy. 2,742]

He got rid of all our suitable replacements. Mourinho brought this on himself.

Good point. Makes you think if he had had the patience with players like De Bryune, Mata etc as he does with Ivanovic, Fabregas and co we might be sitting pretty at the top again

[zolayes 14,489]

Like i said, not entirely his fault. Ask the board please where were they doing their vacation in the summer.

Technically yes but the point is that i am trying to be melodramatic and you sir are getting in the way!!!

Well no, my point is that it seems wrong and knee-jerk reaction to me to quickly "abandon ship" for the second time with him as soon as something goes wrong. We have stability issues as a club too and it's not going to do us any more good to have some other manager (who?) in the middle of the October. What more will the new guy do? Make Ivanovic good again and Fabregas made of steel?

the new guy might DUMP brana get Kalas and other loanees back and give them their chance ..

[DYC. 7,542]

FAir enough, obviously others including yourself will have different perspectives to me but for me that run in 10-11 between Sunderland 0-3 and Fulham 0-0 is the worst run we have been on in the Roman era, despite this shit storm right now I still believe our squad is young enough to recover (whether that's with Jose or not remains to be seen), but that season we had an ageing squad and I honestly thought we were heading down for some time, I think we would have if it werent for Munich, that allowed us to sign Eden and slowly recover culminating in last season's title.

Wins against Walsall and Maccabi are nice for the stats at the end of the season but that's awful opposition. That doesn't count. And a good bit of fortune for us in the win against WBA and the comeback against Newcastle tbh.

Absolutely shambolic performances bar the game against Arsenal. That was a decent performance. 21 goals conceded in 12 games including the Supercup (I seriously dislike the name Community Shield, it's terrible). Every time the opposition attacks they look like scoring. Offensively the team is practically dead, relying on (fortunate) set-pieces to get goals. Not to mention wonder strikes from Matic and Ramires. And practically everyone except for Begovic and Azpilicueta is out of form or unrecognisable.

Edit: Teams no longer fear a visit to Stamford Bridge. Aint that something?

No, this is without a doubt the worst run of form imo. Luckily, I don't feel pain or sadness but a numbness and I can laugh about the situation. I'm just waiting for things to get back to normal. But maybe it won't.

[Muzchap 8,966]

When we win Jose takes the credit ,, when we lose its the players ,, the refs ,, the board ,, the FA and of course WOMEN not to mention climate change

Lol spot-on

Brand Jose thinks he is bigger than Brand Chelsea... The self appointed Messiah has been caught out - hiding behind the Wizard of Oz curtain is a scared little man...

I have always supported Jose - but he's lost my respect and support now. ALL he had to do to keep it was take SOME critiscism on the chin, like a man and get through it - but his pathetic attempts at deflection and throwing players under the bus (apt terminology for us) has shown him in a terrible light. I don't doubt the dressing room is against him and once you have lost that it's only a matter of time.

I fully expect to read tomorrow that he is gone