The Mourinho Thread

[GeeMon 34]

I find it very weird the whole Mourinho coming back.

It feels to me like he was never gone but then I still get excited about the concept of us having him back.

I think he's getting closer to knowing his ideal shape. but the attacking trio in my opinion is rotated a bit too much.

[edetarod 2,155]

It is a shame there isnt a middle ground amongst our fans. People either defend Jose at all costs or they attack and blame him for all our problems!

It doesnt work like that.

Firstly, crticizing Mourinho doesnt mean you dont like Chelsea, just like it doesnt mean you love Chelsea if you defend Mourinho. Secondly, he has made mistakes but also some great improvements (which partially explains our rollercoaster season). Thirdly, Jose is still in the begining of a long term project, stop talking about sackin him that it sounds absolutely pathetic. Lastly, he is only our manager and a team is more than its manager, whenever we win or lose its not all because of him.

I have just 5+ pages worth reactions and I almosted cried (or laughed, I couldnt decide). The posts complaining about him are shite, the posts complaining about others complaining are shite and so on, it is all shite (including this own post).

It is not hard to see why the best members have left. There arent enough intelligent people who know about football anymore and the ones who do cant have a civilized debated whenever someone disagrees with them...

what are you talking about, i'm still here

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Cahill is a good shout as well, nowhere near where he should be staying to be in position to cover for Ivanovic

Yea..and also they were all waiting for De Bruyne to come on.Silly lapse of concentration. If it hadn't for that, we'd have got away with such a dismal performance.

Also Cahill could have slid in before Salah took the shot. Shoddy defending from both Branna and Cahil.

[Barbara 15,149]

It is a shame there isnt a middle ground amongst our fans. People either defend Jose at all costs or they attack and blame him for all our problems!

It doesnt work like that.

Firstly, crticizing Mourinho doesnt mean you dont like Chelsea, just like it doesnt mean you love Chelsea if you defend Mourinho. Secondly, he has made mistakes but also some great improvements (which partially explains our rollercoaster season). Thirdly, Jose is still in the begining of a long term project, stop talking about sackin him that it sounds absolutely pathetic. Lastly, he is only our manager and a team is more than its manager, whenever we win or lose its not all because of him.

I have just 5+ pages worth reactions and I almosted cried (or laughed, I couldnt decide). The posts complaining about him are shite, the posts complaining about others complaining are shite and so on, it is all shite (including this own post).

It is not hard to see why the best members have left. There arent enough intelligent people who know about football anymore and the ones who do cant have a civilized debated whenever someone disagrees with them...

you forgot the worst (imo). The never ending comparisons with previous managers when the only between both Jose's spells that did a decent job was Ancelotti but still you see people proclaiming di Matteo's and Benitez's tactics as if we were Bayern under them. That goes hand to hand with the list of guys to replace Mourinho... that's what's annoying imo. Some people are already talking about sacking him... after a few months.

That said, he was terrible with the team selection against Basel. I'd rate him a 4 out of 10 because even though the problem was that the players didn't turn up, they were damn tired. When José realized that 1) he should have made more changes, especially when he admits he saw his team was tired from the first minute; 2) shouldn't have played all of them if he could say so early they were tired.

It comes back to his decisions and I get anyone who moans about it because it was a pathetic display, I don't expect people to react positively or even neutrally to that. It's the implication that his predecessors did better (they didn't) and the willingness to sack him already that is

He won't leave so Laudrup, Guardiola or Klopp can come... We don't even have players with the profile some of those managers like (not Klopp and definitely not Guardiola). Some players (very few, like 2-3) fit each of those managers' profile and still they're supposed to come because they're the ones that would make Chelsea invincible playing the sexiest football out there. Okay then...

[Tomo 21,733]

Just had a look on statto with our results between 04/05 and 09/10 and fuck me the consistency we had was insane, especially as a defensive unit.

We use to go on winning run's, have a bad result then go on another winning run. Clean sheets were picked up like clockwork aswell. Conceding goal's back then were rare and losing games even more so, we were so difficult to beat it was ridiculous, only 12 league defeats in four season's was stupid. Injuries robbed us in 2007 and 2008, we would have probably been looking at 5 titles out of 6 if we got the rub of the green in the treatment table.

Hopefully in time Jose can build something similar to that again, i miss the days we were a solid defensive unit, forget the so called "pretty football", going into games knowing one goal was usually enough was amazing.

[ChelseasMessiah 304]

Mourinho has to give himself a slap and snap out of his reverie. Either that or he'll be walking the plank in no time, Lampard to follow suit immediately after.

[Phil Driver 503]

The person to blame for an unbalanced squad and for giving long term contracts to players not good enough is down to Michael Emenalo ,lets be honest our transfer policy has been dreadful of late we have not signed greats like Lampard,Drogba,Makelele,Essien,Robben,Carvalho etc for a while now and this squad is Ememalo's more than anyones as mananger after manager was undermined by the club while signings were seemingly made at board meetings . How can a man whose managerial experience amounts to girls football in America put a squad together.

Is Chelsea coach Michael Emenalo any good? Better ask the girls... Michael Emenalo's rapid promotion to the post of Carlo Ancelotti's assistant at Chelsea came as a surprise but the Nigerian's limited coaching experience may be ideally suited to the Premier League's diva-studded world of tantrums and tiaras.

Image 1 of 2

Girl power: Michael Emenalo led Tucson Soccer Academy's U12's to the final of the Arizona State Cup

By Rory Smith

7:45AM GMT 23 Nov 2010

Comment

After all, the last time he took to the training field Emenalo was in charge of a group of 11-year-old girls.

Emenalo, 45, was taken to Stamford Bridge as chief scout in 2007 by the then-manager, Avram Grant, straight from the Tucson Soccer Academy in Arizona, where he had been in charge of the '96 Girls side – the school's under-12s – for little more than a year.

Even that seemed a strange appointment for a man who had enjoyed a successful, if hardly glittering, professional playing career, which peaked with his inclusion in Nigeria's squad for the 1994 World Cup. If his club employers were rather less distinguished – he had spells in the United States, Belgium and Germany, as well as a brief stint at Notts County, before retiring in 2000 after two years at Maccabi Tel Aviv, then coached by Grant – his coaching CV was even less impressive.

Though the current West Ham manager offered him a post in Tel Aviv after retiring, Emenalo's only previous bib-and-cone based experience was a year as a volunteer coach at Virginia Tech university in Blacksburg.

"Michael arrived in Tucson because it was his wife's [Erin Fahey, also a coach] home own," said Charlie Kendrick, a colleague at Tucson academy. "As soon as we heard people of their experience at such high levels were around, we took the opportunity to have them work with our kids. We could not miss that chance."

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It was clearly a task Emenalo relished. In a statement published on the Tucson academy website after his appointment as director of player development, he indicated that he saw his responsibility as "pre-formation training".

"It ensures that the player, at a formative age, is presented with the right soccer information and training before bad habits, and inexperienced coaching set in," he said. "It is our collective experience that a young player cannot excel in soccer unless he/she can completely master and dominate the ball.

"To gain that mastery, it is crucial to start early. It is also our intention to recreate the 'street soccer' credential by providing a safe, fun and culturally relevant environment that encourages more spontaneity and freedom of expression with the ball."

Such a philosophy may come too late to turn John Terry into Ronaldinho, though the former England captain and his team-mates would do well to note that Emenalo's methods bear fruit, as proved by the Tucson academy side who came under his wing.

That under-12s side finished the 2007-08 campaign – under the guidance of Emenalo's replacement, Charlie MacCabe – as runners-up in the Arizona State Cup. Little wonder Emenalo is remembered as fondly in Tucson as he is at Boston University, where he played as a student and is included in the Hall of Fame.

"We do not really have a soccer culture in America," said Kendrick. "So maybe people at the time did not realise how lucky they were to have someone of his calibre working with their children.

"Maybe now they see that he has got such a big job, they will. Those of us who worked with him are all rooting for him. If anyone deserves success, it's Michael."

[kellzfresh 7,229]

The person to blame for an unbalanced squad and for giving long term contracts to players not good enough is down to Michael Emenalo ,lets be honest our transfer policy has been dreadful of late we have not signed greats like Lampard,Drogba,Makelele,Essien,Robben,Carvalho etc for a while now and this squad is Ememalo's more than anyones as mananger after manager was undermined by the club while signings were seemingly made at board meetings . How can a man whose managerial experience amounts to girls football in America put a squad together.

Is Chelsea coach Michael Emenalo any good? Better ask the girls... Michael Emenalo's rapid promotion to the post of Carlo Ancelotti's assistant at Chelsea came as a surprise but the Nigerian's limited coaching experience may be ideally suited to the Premier League's diva-studded world of tantrums and tiaras.

Image 1 of 2

Girl power: Michael Emenalo led Tucson Soccer Academy's U12's to the final of the Arizona State Cup

By Rory Smith

7:45AM GMT 23 Nov 2010

Comment

After all, the last time he took to the training field Emenalo was in charge of a group of 11-year-old girls.

Emenalo, 45, was taken to Stamford Bridge as chief scout in 2007 by the then-manager, Avram Grant, straight from the Tucson Soccer Academy in Arizona, where he had been in charge of the '96 Girls side – the school's under-12s – for little more than a year.

Even that seemed a strange appointment for a man who had enjoyed a successful, if hardly glittering, professional playing career, which peaked with his inclusion in Nigeria's squad for the 1994 World Cup. If his club employers were rather less distinguished – he had spells in the United States, Belgium and Germany, as well as a brief stint at Notts County, before retiring in 2000 after two years at Maccabi Tel Aviv, then coached by Grant – his coaching CV was even less impressive.

Though the current West Ham manager offered him a post in Tel Aviv after retiring, Emenalo's only previous bib-and-cone based experience was a year as a volunteer coach at Virginia Tech university in Blacksburg.

"Michael arrived in Tucson because it was his wife's [Erin Fahey, also a coach] home own," said Charlie Kendrick, a colleague at Tucson academy. "As soon as we heard people of their experience at such high levels were around, we took the opportunity to have them work with our kids. We could not miss that chance."

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It was clearly a task Emenalo relished. In a statement published on the Tucson academy website after his appointment as director of player development, he indicated that he saw his responsibility as "pre-formation training".

"It ensures that the player, at a formative age, is presented with the right soccer information and training before bad habits, and inexperienced coaching set in," he said. "It is our collective experience that a young player cannot excel in soccer unless he/she can completely master and dominate the ball.

"To gain that mastery, it is crucial to start early. It is also our intention to recreate the 'street soccer' credential by providing a safe, fun and culturally relevant environment that encourages more spontaneity and freedom of expression with the ball."

Such a philosophy may come too late to turn John Terry into Ronaldinho, though the former England captain and his team-mates would do well to note that Emenalo's methods bear fruit, as proved by the Tucson academy side who came under his wing.

That under-12s side finished the 2007-08 campaign – under the guidance of Emenalo's replacement, Charlie MacCabe – as runners-up in the Arizona State Cup. Little wonder Emenalo is remembered as fondly in Tucson as he is at Boston University, where he played as a student and is included in the Hall of Fame.

"We do not really have a soccer culture in America," said Kendrick. "So maybe people at the time did not realise how lucky they were to have someone of his calibre working with their children.

"Maybe now they see that he has got such a big job, they will. Those of us who worked with him are all rooting for him. If anyone deserves success, it's Michael."

WTF

[Stingray 9,441]

The person to blame for an unbalanced squad and for giving long term contracts to players not good enough is down to Michael Emenalo ,lets be honest our transfer policy has been dreadful of late we have not signed greats like Lampard,Drogba,Makelele,Essien,Robben,Carvalho etc for a while now and this squad is Ememalo's more than anyones as mananger after manager was undermined by the club while signings were seemingly made at board meetings . How can a man whose managerial experience amounts to girls football in America put a squad together.

Is Chelsea coach Michael Emenalo any good? Better ask the girls...

Michael Emenalo's rapid promotion to the post of Carlo Ancelotti's assistant at Chelsea came as a surprise but the Nigerian's limited coaching experience may be ideally suited to the Premier League's diva-studded world of tantrums and tiaras.

Image 1 of 2

Girl power: Michael Emenalo led Tucson Soccer Academy's U12's to the final of the Arizona State Cup

By Rory Smith

7:45AM GMT 23 Nov 2010

Comment

After all, the last time he took to the training field Emenalo was in charge of a group of 11-year-old girls.

Emenalo, 45, was taken to Stamford Bridge as chief scout in 2007 by the then-manager, Avram Grant, straight from the Tucson Soccer Academy in Arizona, where he had been in charge of the '96 Girls side â the school's under-12s â for little more than a year.

Even that seemed a strange appointment for a man who had enjoyed a successful, if hardly glittering, professional playing career, which peaked with his inclusion in Nigeria's squad for the 1994 World Cup. If his club employers were rather less distinguished â he had spells in the United States, Belgium and Germany, as well as a brief stint at Notts County, before retiring in 2000 after two years at Maccabi Tel Aviv, then coached by Grant â his coaching CV was even less impressive.

Though the current West Ham manager offered him a post in Tel Aviv after retiring, Emenalo's only previous bib-and-cone based experience was a year as a volunteer coach at Virginia Tech university in Blacksburg.

"Michael arrived in Tucson because it was his wife's [Erin Fahey, also a coach] home own," said Charlie Kendrick, a colleague at Tucson academy. "As soon as we heard people of their experience at such high levels were around, we took the opportunity to have them work with our kids. We could not miss that chance."

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Ancelotti's fury at lack of 'control' over Chelsea

22 Nov 2010

Chelsea's power structure

22 Nov 2010

It was clearly a task Emenalo relished. In a statement published on the Tucson academy website after his appointment as director of player development, he indicated that he saw his responsibility as "pre-formation training".

"It ensures that the player, at a formative age, is presented with the right soccer information and training before bad habits, and inexperienced coaching set in," he said. "It is our collective experience that a young player cannot excel in soccer unless he/she can completely master and dominate the ball.

"To gain that mastery, it is crucial to start early. It is also our intention to recreate the 'street soccer' credential by providing a safe, fun and culturally relevant environment that encourages more spontaneity and freedom of expression with the ball."

Such a philosophy may come too late to turn John Terry into Ronaldinho, though the former England captain and his team-mates would do well to note that Emenalo's methods bear fruit, as proved by the Tucson academy side who came under his wing.

That under-12s side finished the 2007-08 campaign â under the guidance of Emenalo's replacement, Charlie MacCabe â as runners-up in the Arizona State Cup. Little wonder Emenalo is remembered as fondly in Tucson as he is at Boston University, where he played as a student and is included in the Hall of Fame.

"We do not really have a soccer culture in America," said Kendrick. "So maybe people at the time did not realise how lucky they were to have someone of his calibre working with their children.

"Maybe now they see that he has got such a big job, they will. Those of us who worked with him are all rooting for him. If anyone deserves success, it's Michael."

What a post Phil,

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Edited November 29, 2013 by CHOULO19
Picture was a bit over the top.

[Rom2013 446]

My favourite game of Benitez era was the 1-0 against Corinthians, it was really a great performance.

We are already in the game number 12 I don't understand why that image references just the 11 first matches...

There is one thing that speaks for itself, you can discuss about tactics, about players, about what you want, but:

Porto (2002–2004)

• Primeira Liga (2): 2002–03, 2003–04
• Taça de Portugal (1): 2002–03
• Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira (1): 2003
• UEFA Champions League (1): 2003–04
• UEFA Cup (1): 2002–03

Chelsea (2004–2007)

• Premier League (2): 2004–05, 2005–06
• FA Cup (1): 2006–07
• Football League Cup (2): 2004–05, 2006–07
• FA Community Shield (1): 2005

Internazionale (2008–2010)

• Serie A (2): 2008–09, 2009–10
• Coppa Italia (1): 2009–10
• Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2008
• UEFA Champions League (1): 2009–10

Real Madrid (2010–2013)

• La Liga (1): 2011–12
• Copa del Rey (1): 2010–11
• Supercopa de España (1): 2012

Mourinho will be the best coach in the history of football and he is the best coach in the history of this club. He knows a lot more than you, the players, Abramovich. There is only one institution in the world with similar wins in the last 10/11 years: FCBarcelona.

If you want to compare Mourinho with any coach Chelsea had you don't know anything about football.

The day Mourinho leaves CHelsea he will go PSG, or he will return to Madrid or Milan, he can coach any club in the world and win.

If you want to win every game with kids with 21 y/o that's a little dificult. And even more if you want to beat the European Champions or Real Madrid.

In the last game we were already in the last 16. The league is much more important right now.

[Phil Driver 503]

No problem gald to educate you foreigners about what is happening at the club,if you need a translation ,online is very easy access.

[Sheva. 5,373]

In the last game we were already in the last 16. The league is much more important right now.

Decent points, until this. We weren't already in the last season, we needed a draw at least, and we got dominated all game. Fortunately, Schalke fucked up.

Also i agree the league is more important, but Mourinho played 9 of his usual starters against Basel. If it really wasn't that important then surely more changes would have been made.

[The Mak 4,459]

What a post Phil,

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Well shiiiiiit, now I'm really intrigued on what that was! ...PM?

[The Skipper 20,593]

No problem gald to educate you foreigners about what is happening at the club,if you need a translation ,online is very easy access.

Lol.

So everything bad that's happening is Emelano's fault, but Michael gets no credit for bringing in the likes of Oscar, Ramires, Hazard, Cahill, Azpi etc. (basically rejuvenating a squad that was going downhill anyway) from you? Right.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

What a post Phil,

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Well shiiiiiit, now I'm really intrigued on what that was! ...PM?

Me too

[Fernando 6,490]

The bashing of emanolo is silly.

He has done a wonderful job following the mandate of the owner.

Roman wants sexy fútbol, and youthful exuberance. But the structure he wants to build at the moment does not go hand in hand with Mourinho philosophy.

So it's not Mourinho fault or emanolo but the man who made the appointment.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

The bashing of emanolo is silly.

He has done a wonderful job following the mandate of the owner.

Roman wants sexy fútbol, and youthful exuberance. But the structure he wants to build at the moment does not go hand in hand with Mourinho philosophy.

So it's not Mourinho fault or emanolo but the man who made the appointment.

Smexi fútbol is the way to go.

That's why Roman made Jose boss second time around. Maybe he doesn't want to make Chelsea, Barcelona after all.

The basing of Roman is silly.

[Henrique 9,133]

Lol.

So everything bad that's happening is Emelano's fault, but Michael gets no credit for bringing in the likes of Oscar, Ramires, Hazard, Cahill, Azpi etc. (basically rejuvenating a squad that was going downhill anyway) from you? Right.

Its his fault the squad is unbalanced. Huge gap between grandpas (Lampard and Terry) and the new boys. You are talking about Azpi, but right now he is a right back playing as left back, because the team don't have a good replacement for Cole. Oscar was playing for Brazilian NT, Hazard was wanted by some big european clubs. I don't even have to discuss Cahill here, because if you want to praise a Sports Director for bringing an average defender to squad, feel free, but thats really insane.

I'm more concerned about lack of a proper DM ( I don't think Van Ginkel is the one), lack of full backs, lack of CM, and why the club is wasting money on players like Kevin De Bruyne, Moses and thousands of u20 players that will end up playing in Bundesliga.

Both Oscar and Hazard still dont have that winning mentality, that kind of fierce desire to be on the pitch to slay the enemy.