The Mourinho Thread

[Barbara 15,149]

@Fernando and what is he doing so wrong now? He's trying to find the best team! He's digging it, but he needs the players' help as well. He's making mistakes in my opinion, but the mistakes I think he's making others think aren't mistakes and what others think are mistakes I don't think it is. So who's right and who's wrong? He's trying to find the best way for us to play, he's not doing anything wrong by trying to do it, he's abiding to the orders he received from Abramovich

[Korea 734]

I think he hinted that he will eventually move Oscar to that role for the pivot.

But that Mata needs to do some work before he can go back to the number 10 role.

I believe that is his vision if I'm not mistaken.

As well with Van GInkel.

It would be Oscar-Van Ginkel in the double pivot role.

But for now they are not ready so it seems like Mikel will do.

That is the sense I got from looking the last game with the high pressing game and what he said afterwards. I hope it is cause it looks very exciting.

I never understood where people got the notion that Oscar was going to play the pivot. (maybe in his 30s).

[Fernando 6,488]

@Barbara No I was mad at him because I thought he was not good anymore after the Real Madrid last year.

Just like Mourinho view, I also feel the same. You are as good as your last few games.

So from Madrid till now I had not seen anything great.

Except in this last game against Fulham, where in the second half I finally got to see what he is truly intending to do.

The high pressing game against Fulham was a first sign of what is to come.

Mourinho truly is bent on shaping this team into an attacking team but with a balanced to it.

I was mostly worried that we had picked the wrong guy to shape our new philosophy but after today game and his last post match conference I'm excited again.

As I thought it was wrong to take this team and shape it into a counter attacking team, and this is not what Mourinho has in mind.

We will continue with what the club and the owner wants which is good.

[Barbara 15,149]

The first half was like what we witnessed the last few season's, but Jose done something at half time to change that and the second half we were superb.

That's the difference between Jose and other manager's, under any one else the 2nd half would have been just as bad and the game would have ended 0-0.

After WHL next week we would have played 3 of last season's top 6 away already, if we can escape from next weekend 3-4 points off the top, then we are in an great position.

ITA with this (I'm still behind in the thread, hahaha). Absolutely right.

I think there are two things now: results and improvement.

The results aren't too bad. We're at the top of the league and I never write Arsenal off from messing up - even if it's against Stoke and I don't remember who Spurs play, but they had been relying on set-pieces for three rounds to score... but even if they win tomorrow and we're third - along with one of the Manchesters [if any of them win at all] and Liverpool. But that's two points. Maybe we'll lose at White Hard Lane next week and be 5 pts behind them, but they - as well as ManUtd will have to come play at the Bridge when we'll probably be better settled in our tactics.

As for the tactics improvement itself I think we're taking snail steps. I think Mourinho has made a few judgment mistakes, but I think what contributed the most is the poor displays by our players so far, especially the AM and also the ST. Of course our defense looked anything but solid in moments against Everton and Basel, but I don't think they're a bigger liability (or is the pivot) than our AM and ST. We have high attempts on goal in some matches and some ridiculous shots that actually hit the target. We've been scoring too little and I blame it more on the players being poor than on Mourinho. On paper our AM + ST combo isn't that bad and that proves to be true when in a game like today we have 20+ attempts on goal - the same happened against Everton [away btw]. But the accuracy is bad and bad accuracy is basically players' technical issues.

The judgment mistakes - I won't be vague about them - I think Mourinho did so far:

• Kevin de Bruyne. I don't care if benches the RW or the LW, Kev deserves more chances because he played very well against Hull and he can be more creative than most our players
• Starting Lampard and Eto'o at all matches (although Lamps was on the bench today)
• Eden Hazard - something has to be done there. At first I thought it was benching him, but then Mou comes and says some of those players can't handle pressure put on them and I don't know if Hazard is one of them. If he's not, he should be benched, if he is hire a shrink.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

I never understood where people got the notion that Oscar was going to play the pivot. (maybe in his 30s).

Lampard is playing in that position, and to be fair, Oscar defensively is better than Lampard, is quicker, and does not interferes between the attacking lines to score his 200th Chelsea goal.I dont understand why we should not put him in that position, he has all the qualities and is younger than Lampard who must be played in the number 10 role.

[didierforever 7,349]

the best thing about jose is that he doesnot mince words.

when asked what he expects of mata and how mata can win his trust back, the answer was swift, straight and to the point.

if he so direct with the public, just think exactly how he would talk to the players. everything would be strainght from the heart. and each player would be knowing exactly what is expected of him and what he would get.

[The Mak 4,459]

Mourinho should've dropped Hazard for this game.

He has been average thus far, had his worst game ever against Basel and he simply didn't face any repercussion for it. And I severely doubt with our AM options he'd be playing if he was in anyway still injured. It seems to be simply down to form. Almost as soon as Schurrle switched with him he made the difference for the 1st goal. Hazard needs something. Whether it be the bench for a few games, a rest or a kick up the arse. It's one thing to have all of these quality AMs, but it's another to persist with an out of form player while the rest sit on the bench; It's asking for trouble.

Sure Schurrle didn't finish chances at Everton, but at least he was getting on the end of them - unlike Eden. KDB also sits on the bench but has performed well whenever called upon. I don't know how long they'll happily sit there.

The players on the bench will be relatively satisfied as long as the managers selection is somewhat justified, but Hazard just isn't justifying his constant presence in the team at the moment - especially since we have such strength in that department now.

For now it's just a niggling concern as it's early days still, but I hope José will be a bit more proactive in keeping the squad harmony for the rest of the season.

[edenhazard17 281]

He could put Jt Cahil or Ivo up front

Ivanovic in front would bang in goals for fun.

[Mong630 7]

he seriously is fucking up mata and KdB, 2 players who would start in any other PL squad.

And why? Just because he's a stubborn attention whore!

Same thing with lukaku. He's miles better than torres, ba or eto.

[Zoro 151]

he seriously is fucking up mata and KdB, 2 players who would start in any other PL squad.

And why? Just because he's a stubborn attention whore!

Same thing with lukaku. He's miles better than torres, ba or eto.

Well he has a good excuse for not starting Mata. Defensively he is non-existent. I agree with KDB though, he should play more.

Regarding Lukaku being miles better than all our strikers I dont think its true, he cant handle wearing a Chelsea shirt yet.

[ChelseasMessiah 304]

he seriously is fucking up mata and KdB, 2 players who would start in any other PL squad.

And why? Just because he's a stubborn attention whore!

Same thing with lukaku. He's miles better than torres, ba or eto.

You're not really a Chelsea fan are you?

[nachikethas 1,149]

The amount of trolls after Jose arival is too damn high!!

[Phil Driver 503]

Jose has been and is class ,the way he speaks reminds me of a manager we used to have in England called Brian Clough ,his explanations yesterday about what he is doing and where we are going was immaculate,this is not like before he is building something that is different he will not have this in place for maybe two seasons before perfection is seen ,Barcelona was not built in a day .lets hope Roman can see this ,the signs are that he does .

None of our other managers could/would communicate this to us or the press, Jose did that yesterday,we all should understand now .

I am a believer ,I want Jose at Chelsea in ten years time ,he is special. We may not win much in years 1,2,3 but we will be winning everything after that.

[EBH 283]

I think if the Mata situation become very very bad- maybe Mata says he wants to leave, he put in the transfer request, then Mourinho must leave. Managers, they are easy to find, easy to replace. Mata, he is not. Mourinho is not Sir Ferguson, he is not the most important thing in the club. That is Mata.

[edetarod 2,155]

getting real tired of the Mata cocksucking going on here

[EBH 283]

Mata is a special one... if he goes, who do we have? Oscar is not so good as Mata, Oscar cannot play 60 games. There are very few players like Mata.

Mourinho, he is not special. He is just the manager. There is only one special manager, and he is retired from Man United. Any body can put 11 names on paper, any body can talk in press conference. We win Champions League with Di Matteo. You do not need a great manager to have a good team. You need great players.

[Phil Driver 503]

Even talking about getting rid of Jose will make us the laughing stock of world football ,I would give him another two year extension at Christmas just to make the statement that he is here for the long haul.

All our foes want it to blow up and him to fail ,we cant let that happen

[Styles 9,790]

Mata is a special one... if he goes, who do we have? Oscar is not so good as Mata, Oscar cannot play 60 games. There are very few players like Mata.

Mourinho, he is not special. He is just the manager. There is only one special manager, and he is retired from Man United. Any body can put 11 names on paper, any body can talk in press conference. We win Champions League with Di Matteo. You do not need a great manager to have a good team. You need great players.