MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 It's funny how a lot of people are saying "why did Mourinho sell Mata, KDB ect." when back when we parked the bus every week, people were fine with it. Not to say I'm super cool for having known it was the wrong move back then, but seriously, we've sold way too many very, very good attacking players recently. Not to mention the likes of Bertrand.It is acceptable as long as we keep on winning which many including myself thought he would be able to maintain once he got the whole club under his control but clearly that is not the case. After all isn't the main purposes of having good attacking players are to win games for us but if we did then having them or not isn't really an issue.Now though we can really see the damage being done by Mourinho and why he is the best short term manager in football history, he wins things in cycles(3 years at best) then he cannot maintain it after this period, what we also didn't know is the free falling capablity he has. Basically he traded Chelsea's future for 2 trophies. couris and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,593 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 The amount of restraint the board has shown is actually quite remarkable. Other managers have performed far better and have been sacked for lessThe amount of restraint the board has shown is indeed remarkable, maybe new stability for a change??? who knows? not sacking managers left or right at the first sign of a crisis, i´m just as angry as anyone at the current state of things and i want things to get better, but one of the club´s problems these past years has been the lack of stability with managers and i would like that to change soon. What´s Wenger´s excuse at Arsenal for not beeing sacked yet ? the board keeps backing him, but what has he shown ? i do remember Ferguson facing relegation with United at some point many years ago and he was bound to get sacked, but they kept him and they didn´t regret it: http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/206230.htmlLook, like i said before, a team that won the league last season simply doesn´t turn to sh*t overnight, there is a clear sign of low confidence right now, but i can´t deny the many crucial decisions that have been going against us this season, that could make a difference in the team´s momentum and morale, who knows? of course that doesn´t hide the fact that the team has been very poor, but for once i would like to give the manager a chance to really turn things around, i´m willing to give him that vote of confidence. I´m giving Mou the benefit of the doubt because today he wasn´t in the technical area to exert his influence on the players and that is a big factor, either way the players had no excuse to fail on the pitch even with Mou out of this game, so what changed after the Kiev game? I know playing at Stoke is always difficult and today the team was unlucky not to get at least a draw, it´s just one of the many things that can happen when things aren´t going your way, the blame must be shared by players and manager. You and others can slag me off all you want, but it´s my opinion and there are many who share my view, but stability at this club would be a great start, we´ll see what happens. Cheers stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I'm Mourinho's biggest ass licker here.Not saying I WANT him out, but I have to admit that (assuming we appoint the right replacement) I wouldn't explode in anger if he went now.This may sound outrageous and hilarious at the same time, but I would seriously consider Brentan if we can't get Carlo back and think Pep is impossible. Knows how to train and coach attractive, attacking football and did so without the ability to attract super star talent. He'd have a much better squad of players here and would be able to buy anyone he wants assuming the owner backs him.I kind of think he'd do very well here.His problem is that he can't coached organised defense. The reverse of Mourinho, basically. Muzchap and iseah100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 His problem is that he can't coached organised defense. The reverse of Mourinho, basically. If we appoint him we would trade Ying for Yang. We need a manager that have both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 His problem is that he can't coached organised defense. The reverse of Mourinho, basically. Teaching defesne is easy[emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidur the Spider 4,515 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Not saying if I want him gone or not but I can't see him getting sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Accurate. Muzchap and Beepu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I'm sitting here laughing at those who are waiting for Mourinho to be sacked Gonna be a long international break for you guys Played good, bad luck, we have been way better since the last international break and the luck uncertainty will surely be reduced at some point in the next weeks, onto the next one, enjoy 15 days outside compétitive football/pressure and move on Johnnyeye, stroey and Essien19 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Steadily "stablizing" in 15th place. I'll sort of understand the stability argument.(i) If Mourinho had ever shown anything resembling in his 15 year career and if he didn't behave like a complete fucktard and bring his host club to disrepute when things don't go his way.(ii) If we weren't 15th (!!) with a 1/3 of the season gone. If we were like say 6th, 7th or even 8th, few would be calling for him to be sacked. Bad season, okay. Scrap it up and start again next season. But 15th is historic in the Abramovich era and very very poor in ANY CFC era really. We're so bad, it defies all logic. Miki-Liki and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I'm sitting here laughing at those who are waiting for Mourinho to be sacked Gonna be a long international break for you guys Played good, bad luck, we have been way better since the last international break and the luck uncertainty will surely be reduced at some point in the next weeks, onto the next one, enjoy 15 days outside compétitive football/pressure and move on Please put in the same amount of support for our next manager as your mortal God Mourinho. Then we would see your true Chelsea supporting side instead of being seeen as a Mourinho worshipper. 11Drogba and couris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 The amount of restraint the board has shown is indeed remarkable, maybe new stability for a change??? who knows? not sacking managers left or right at the first sign of a crisis, i´m just as angry as anyone at the current state of things and i want things to get better, but one of the club´s problems these past years has been the lack of stability with managers and i would like that to change soon. What´s Wenger´s excuse at Arsenal for not beeing sacked yet ? the board keeps backing him, but what has he shown ? i do remember Ferguson facing relegation with United at some point many years ago and he was bound to get sacked, but they kept him and they didn´t regret it: http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/206230.htmlLook, like i said before, a team that won the league last season simply doesn´t turn to sh*t overnight, there is a clear sign of low confidence right now, but i can´t deny the many crucial decisions that have been going against us this season, that could make a difference in the team´s momentum and morale, who knows? of course that doesn´t hide the fact that the team has been very poor, but for once i would like to give the manager a chance to really turn things around, i´m willing to give him that vote of confidence. I´m giving Mou the benefit of the doubt because today he wasn´t in the technical area to exert his influence on the players and that is a big factor, either way the players had no excuse to fail on the pitch even with Mou out of this game, so what changed after the Kiev game? I know playing at Stoke is always difficult and today the team was unlucky not to get at leat a draw, it´s just one of the many things that can happen when things aren´t going your way, the blame must be shared by players and manager. You and others can slag me off all you want, but it´s my opinion and there are many who share my view, but stability at this club would be a great start, we´ll see what happens. Cheers Please don't take this the wrong way But the difference with Arsenal etc - they are not 16th 3 points from relegation Yes they are shit and have won fuck all with talented teams, but they haven't imploded either - they've just bobbed around at the top, missing out We are 16th - I cannot stress enough how serious this is now. We are 3 points from relegation Blackburn was the last team to win and then dissappear - although it took longer than one season.We are right now relegation candidates - please believe me when I say how hard it is to admit that, But our form suggests it. I think the Board have little choice poup, MrBlueGuy, Mana and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I'm sitting here laughing at those who are waiting for Mourinho to be sacked [emoji38] Gonna be a long international break for you guys [emoji38] Played good, bad luck, we have been way better since the last international break and the luck uncertainty will surely be reduced at some point in the next weeks, onto the next one, enjoy 15 days outside compétitive football/pressure and move on It seems like you are enjoying this.....very odd. Do you also think that this has to do with luck? couris, Muzchap and zolayes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 It seems like you are enjoying this.....very odd. Do you also think that this has to do with luck?As long as his favorite person is still at the club he is happy no matter what happens to Chelsea FC, like the majority of other fans really. couris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 His problem is that he can't coached organised defense. The reverse of Mourinho, basically. Should hire him as our assistant manager then. Tell him to go to the tactical area when we have the ball and switch with Jose when we don't have the ball.There, problem solved MrExcalibur100 and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,374 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 His problem is that he can't coached organised defense. The reverse of Mourinho, basically.No one in the PL can. Chelsea has been the only top flight team in recent years that have won because of our defense.Arsenal, City, his Liverpool team that one year...none can defend. Great attacking play can mask many problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I'm sitting here laughing at those who are waiting for Mourinho to be sacked Gonna be a long international break for you guys Played good, bad luck, we have been way better since the last international break and the luck uncertainty will surely be reduced at some point in the next weeks, onto the next one, enjoy 15 days outside compétitive football/pressure and move on C'mon you are better than this post suggests.Luck is nothing to do with it - we cannot create chances from open play The team do not know how to attack and defend together as a unit I think the problems run deeper than 'luck' Beepu and Zazard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! zolayes 14,489 Posted November 7, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted November 7, 2015 *16th place.im going to start using Roman numerals XVI doesnt look so bad CHOULO19, Mana, lucio and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 *16th place.You're correct. I just looked at the latest update of the table. Makes me so angry and sad at the same time. Mana 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 im going to start using Roman numerals XVI doesnt look so bad Lol ? Rocky XVI - let's hope it's Maureens revenge and we go on an unbeaten streak until the end of the season. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 231 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I think if Mourinho was for the sack he would be gone by now. it seems as if he's been given a period of time with his 'vote of confidence.' He'll be here till Jan or the end of the season imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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