The Mourinho Thread

[didierforever 7,349]

"I speak with him every day, it's quite strange the media knows something I or my club don't know."

"He has to give us more than Diego Costa. We normally play with one striker and I always go for the performance level. It's a direct competition - the best one plays. It can be tough."

hahahhahahahahhahahhahaha.. nice one jose, nice one!!! i needed this pick me up. :lol: :lol:

ps - its not about diego but the obvious culprits here - iva and cesc

[Roquila 1,335]

Exactly, he is very good at creative accounting and he also let out ZOUMA.

Tibo, Zouma, Cesar, Matic, (RLC) Cesc, Willian, Eden, Diego looks bright enough for me.

If you complain about selling a 27yo Mata I would say we now have a much more complete 27yo player in Willian, or a same type of player in Cesc.

Lukaku didn't want to be a back up, so now we have Diego.

KDB yes it's a big loss, Jose gambled on Oscar and lost.

There is nothing bright about Willian and Cesc. Willian scored 4 freekick this season AHOY! He is a fucking winger and scored.. what? 10 goals maybe ?

Cesc is a dead man walking atm.

[El P. 1,354]

This thread is most depressing ever.

EDIT:

I don't think this is whole story, that Mourinho doesn't play him just cause "he is bad in tracking back". I think Mourinho thinks that Hazard doesn't need to track that much, but only IF he is giving us what is needed in attack. He is obviously not doing that. So if you can't provide where you usually provide, provide us with something else. Either goals (0 goals) or all-round fighting and work.

Our defense is so shitty this days and I can understand why we can't risk having a liability upfront. On the other side then, I don't know what to think about Fabregas and playing him anymore, really. I think he is playing him because he still can with one good pass resolve a game in our favor (like couple of times this season) and maybe is a BIT better in defending then Eden - Hazard can't resolve game unfortunately with anything that he does this days.

Comments by Mou were harsh, and I'm sick of them. But I truly hope so that Jose explained himself to Eden privately in a way I wrote it in this post.

This is really becoming a nightmare, and even a big Mourinho lovers (like myself) are getting tired of his shits. And I'm not even talking about playing Ivanović (Baba is actually really poor too) or Fabregas, I can deal with that, I'm talking about his whole relationship with everyone. Players, stuff and fans. Passion is fading. No passion on field, off field, and in no time some fans will lose some of their passion for the club too.

He owes us a lot.

I am hoping, for a love of God, that Hazard plays today and plays great. And Mourinho not to open his mouth after the game. Or that he praises him, of course.

[ulvhedin 526]

I personally don't think Hazard is the 3rd best player in the world. Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Suarez, Reus, Bale, Sanchez are above him at the moment IMO. Still, when on his day, he's unstoppable, unfortunately these days are getting rare this season.

Reus is really average this season and Bale spends more time in medical gabinet than on the pitch. Not that i think Hazard is any good these season, there are many better players than him at the moment

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

99 out of 100 managers would build their team around Hazard and let the little magician express himself on the pitch. Not with Mourinho though. Fecking track back and work rate, he is not a full back FFS. It's so hard to understand Mourinho these days. So much negativity around him, it's like every word he says turns into a war tune. Why can't he just shut the fuck up for at least a week and do the job he's being paid for.

[stroey 2,525]

There is nothing bright about Willian and Cesc. Willian scored 4 freekick this season AHOY! He is a fucking winger and scored.. what? 10 goals maybe ?

Cesc is a dead man walking atm.

Willian has been our most consistent player since 2015, he always gives you at least a 7. Not only his defensive work rate, but he also contributed a lot in our attack the whole year.

Cesc is in bad form like Hazard but does it mean he isn't capable of great things? He was vital for the double win last year and he was also on his way to tie/break the assists record in the EPL. Even in the second half when he was off form he delivered some important assists and goal(s) like that winner vs QPR, or the assist to Diego in the final of COC.

99 out of 100 managers would build their team around Hazard and let the little magician express himself on the pitch. Not with Mourinho though. Fecking track back and work rate, he is not a full back FFS. It's so hard to understand Mourinho these days. So much negativity around him, it's like every word he says turns into a war tune. Why can't he just shut the fuck up for at least a week and do the job he's being paid for.

He is.

Schurrle said: “The other thing is that Eden is given more freedom so the other winger has to work even harder. You have to work for that freedom, and Eden deserves it as he creates everything up front.

“He scores goals and makes assists so it’s right he should have that freedom.”

http://www.squawka.com/news/schurrle-hazard-is-given-more-freedom-than-others-at-chelsea/474165

But he hasn't delivered this season so far, so we should go back to the basics first.

[Jase 43,479]

Not about Mourinho but thought this is interesting...

Guardiola: Long Bayern stay would be boring; Wenger at Arsenal is different

[Leif 6,006]

he has changed little

or in other words

hasn't adapted

si?

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

"I speak with him every day, it's quite strange the media knows something I or my club don't know."

"He has to give us more than Diego Costa. We normally play with one striker and I always go for the performance level. It's a direct competition - the best one plays. It can be tough."

hahahhahahahahhahahhahaha.. nice one jose, nice one!!! i needed this pick me up. :lol: :lol:

ps - its not about diego but the obvious culprits here - iva and cesc

Cesc is the only survivor of last year's team to to be dropped at some point - I think you're being too hard on Jose, honestly. With the exception of Fabregas everything you have asked of him has happened - playing more kids, playing Ramires, giving RLC his chances, he's since revived JT, dropped Cahill again, and Baba is playing too.

Tonight I don't expect Cesc to play, Oscar will replace him and Hazard will start on the right wing so that Dave is behind him instead of Baba.

[kmk108 1,186]

he has changed little

or in other words

hasn't adapted

si?

I read it as "he's the one that won the league and COC cup last season"

[Fernando 6,585]

Not about Mourinho but thought this is interesting...

Guardiola: Long Bayern stay would be boring; Wenger at Arsenal is different

Well I think that's why Mourinho is already flirting with Inter.

He is doing the same thing he did at Real Madrid.

In his third season he started talking about Chelsea and his love.

Now in his third season with us he is talking about his love for Inter.....

Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho: Inter Milan is 'a club I love so much'

http://www.espnfc.us/italian-serie-a/story/2672208/chelsea-boss-jose-mourinho-inter-a-club-i-love-so-much

[11Drogba 2,000]

iceboy, on 20 Oct 2015 - 11:54 AM, said:

He always said that not only now.

He started saying it too often these days.

http://www.espnfc.com/chelsea/story/2665299/jose-mourinho-rejects-chelsea-mutiny-speculation

[didierforever 7,349]

Cesc is the only survivor of last year's team to to be dropped at some point - I think you're being too hard on Jose, honestly. With the exception of Fabregas everything you have asked of him has happened - playing more kids, playing Ramires, giving RLC his chances, he's since revived JT, dropped Cahill again, and Baba is playing too.

Tonight I don't expect Cesc to play, Oscar will replace him and Hazard will start on the right wing so that Dave is behind him instead of Baba.

no jose has not dropped iva and cesc.

the only reason baba has played is because iva is injured, no other reason. iva could and probably did cost us 5-10 or maybe a whole season and he still would not have been benched, just like cesc.

how many matches is cesc going to cost us?

i am sorry, but he has done nothing on MERIT. if he had done things on meritocracy, the first 2 people to be dropped would have been iva and cesc.

you can keep changing X/y or Z player and nothing will change when you are unwilling to change your tactics, your attitude, your ego and at the least face your problems head on.

ps - cesc starts, RLC not even on bench. that JOSE for u.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

no jose has not dropped iva and cesc.

the only reason baba has played is because iva is injured, no other reason. iva could and probably did cost us 5-10 or maybe a whole season and he still would not have been benched, just like cesc.

how many matches is cesc going to cost us?

i am sorry, but he has done nothing on MERIT. if he had done things on meritocracy, the first 2 people to be dropped would have been iva and cesc.

you can keep changing X/y or Z player and nothing will change when you are unwilling to change your tactics, your attitude, your ego and at the least face your problems head on.

ps - cesc starts, RLC not even on bench. that JOSE for u.

How do you know RLC didn't get a training injury after his presser?

And lol if Baba had played those we would still have conceded as many - he is just as bad a defender as Ivanovic.

As for Cesc, I'd imagine he's been warned he needs to perform. If he is crap tonight I reckon he will be dropped.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

ehmmm.....Rlc will probably start the next game, as someone else already explained he's very young and doesn't have it in him to play a full 90 min match, let alone 2 matches so close to each other.

Yes, the rotation everyone was crying for is happening.


If Rlc won't start/play at least 45 mins the next game i'll eat my humble pie.

Also, Baba would be skinned alive by Yarmalenko. Unless you lot would like to leak goals again just for the sake of giving him minutes.

[MefiX19 1,092]

How do you know RLC didn't get a training injury after his presser?

And lol if Baba had played those we would still have conceded as many - he is just as bad a defender as Ivanovic.

As for Cesc, I'd imagine he's been warned he needs to perform. If he is crap tonight I reckon he will be dropped.

Bad 45 minutes and you are buying grave for him, he was probably nervous, because it was first game in PL

BTW:He was solid in second half.

[Adnane 1,101]

He is rotating in midfield, giving Matic his confidence back, Ramires can't be moved.

Zouma coming in for Baba to give more stability, they probably have strong players in the air, José always pays attention to this stuff.

The only thing I don't agree with is putting Cesc instead of Oscar, but he has the benefit of the doubt, if we win, José did well again, if we lose, bad choices, simple as that.

COME ON CHELSEA !!! ( we don't hear that anymore here with all the moaning and plastic fans )

[MefiX19 1,092]

He is rotating in midfield, giving Matic his confidence back, Ramires can't be moved.

Zouma coming in for Baba to give more stability, they probably have strong players in the air, José always pays attention to this stuff.

The only thing I don't agree with is putting Cesc instead of Oscar, but he has the benefit of the doubt, if we win, José did well again, if we lose, bad choices, simple as that.

COME ON CHELSEA !!! ( we don't hear that anymore here with all the moaning and plastic fans )

Even if we win players could put bad performaces, hope i'm wrong, but that's true, putting Cesc when he is our worst player after Iva this season is a joke.

[didierforever 7,349]

How do you know RLC didn't get a training injury after his presser?

And lol if Baba had played those we would still have conceded as many - he is just as bad a defender as Ivanovic.

As for Cesc, I'd imagine he's been warned he needs to perform. If he is crap tonight I reckon he will be dropped.

dude seriously?

so RLC not being in the squad after being subbed for no good reason after 45minutes now means that he is probably injured? and that too after the presser? come on dude, even you know the truth, why not just accept it.

and even if RLC is injured, cesc is playing as a no.10 unless rambo is on the wings. why is not oscar starting in place of cesc? cesc has been warned? seriously? its been 13 matches of absolute and total shit and he has been WARNED?

again with judging baba. lets talk about his 2nd half performance. tell me about it. i think we have gone through this before.

you are a good poster, but your jose favourtism is clouding your judgement over some issues which are GLARING towards us.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

dude seriously?

so RLC not being in the squad after being subbed for no good reason after 45minutes now means that he is probably injured? and that too after the presser? come on dude, even you know the truth, why not just accept it.

and even if RLC is injured, cesc is playing as a no.10 unless rambo is on the wings. why is not oscar starting in place of cesc? cesc has been warned? seriously? its been 13 matches of absolute and total shit and he has been WARNED?

again with judging baba. lets talk about his 2nd half performance. tell me about it. i think we have gone through this before.

you are a good poster, but your jose favourtism is clouding your judgement over some issues which are GLARING towards us.

I didn't think Baba was very good in the second half, to be honest. He was better, but still does not look Chelsea quality imo - I honestly hope he proves me wrong.

I would like Oscar to start over Cesc, obviously. But I can see why Jose continues to start Cesc: We lose creativity almost completely with Matic-Ramires-Oscar. Personally I didn't think Cesc was bad against Aston Villa. Still not good enough, but he was not a liability.

I can't help it. Jose is a man of the club. Loves the club. I honestly think he will pull us out of this mess, this season has been an exception to an otherwise spotless record (and no, Real Madrid 2012-13 was different; the players rebelled against him but the players are 100% behind him at CFC). I can understand people that want him out but I hope you understand why people want him to stay.

However if we get knocked out of the Champions League his fate is sealed. I believe it also got RDM fired, after it became clear we would not qualify.