Fernando Torres

[Peace. 4,352]

He pisses me off as much as the next guy, and i would love him and rafa to leave, and us to draw a line under it and start again hopefully with Jose.

BUT, we are in an extremely close top 4 battle, have a great chance at a europa league trophy, and jeering at our striker for the whole time isn't gonna assist that. Our feelings have been felt towards the manager, but he was never close to being one of us. He was given the interim manager title, and i am sure many of the players, don't really consider him their proper manager, as he is 99% leaving in the summer anyway. Torres, however has been there for over 2 years, and i am sure is good friends with a lot of the other players...

And we don't want to be the club that sings insults at our own players... It doesn't send out a good message to the other players at the club, future players wanting to join the club, and how our club and its supporters treat their players.

Three things :

* Do you really believe that booing the ladyboy will affect negatively his game ? Against Loserpool this week-end, he was a lost soul wandering on the pitch for about 98 minutes. Though, there wasn't anyone around booing him, right ? Tonight, he fucked-up three clear opportunities to score. Then again, nobody was booing him. And it's just the two most recent examples out of more than 100 games. Over the past two and a half years, Chelsea fans have showed a great support to him, nonetheless, he still has proved to be the biggest flop of football history. So I ask you, what will happen if he sees banners telling him to fuck off ? Will he miss a siter on purpose ? Too bad, he is already doing this, even when fans are singing "T*rres T*rres T*rres". Then maybe he will suck and show no passion ? Then again, that's mainly what he has achieved in his time here.

* What do you think that his firends will do, if we do jeer him ? Will they start an hunger-strike ? Footballers are not renowned to have the most performant brains, though they are not that dumb. He might be their friend, but they most certainly know that he is awful and frustrating, so they will understand our stance. Plus, they know that they are bound to be applauded and cheered when they have a good game/season, just as they are bound to be booed when they are poor.

* And lol, sending out a wrong message. During Rijkaard's last year at Barça, fans were booing him/the team. Though, that didn't prevent Barcelona to buy great players and to be admired all over the world. This is not the sole example ; Madrid fans have booed Ronaldo and Mourinho, yet it won't prevent Madrid to attract great players and have a good image — I could mention many other examples. That's how it works in football : when fans are happy, they applause, sing, cheer, etc... when they are not, they boo. Furthermore, put aside his fangirls, everybody knows that this poor excuse of a player is a supreme flop, I am pretty sure that other teams' players and fans would understand our feelings.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Three things :

* Do you really believe that booing the ladyboy will affect negatively his game ? Against Loserpool this week-end, he was a lost soul wandering on the pitch for about 98 minutes. Though, there wasn't anyone around booing him, right ? Tonight, he fucked-up three clear opportunities to score. Then again, nobody was booing him. And it's just the two most recent examples out of more than 100 games. Over the past two and a half years, Chelsea fans have showed a great support to him, nonetheless, he still has proved to be the biggest flop of football history. So I ask you, what will happen if he sees banners telling him to fuck off ? Will he miss a siter on purpose ? Too bad, he is already doing this, even when fans are singing "T*rres T*rres T*rres". Then maybe he will suck and show no passion ? Then again, that's mainly what he has achieved in his time here.

* What do you think that his firends will do, if we do jeer him ? Will they start an hunger-strike ? Footballers are not renowned to have the most performant brains, though they are not that dumb. He might be their friend, but they most certainly know that he is awful and frustrating, so they will understand our stance. Plus, they know that they are bound to be applauded and cheered when they have a good game/season, just as they are bound to be booed when they are poor.

* And lol, sending out a wrong message. During Rijkaard's last year at Barça, fans were booing him/the team. Though, that didn't prevent Barcelona to buy great players and to be admired all over the world. This is not the sole example ; Madrid fans have booed Ronaldo and Mourinho, yet it won't prevent Madrid to attract great players and have a good image — I could mention many other examples. That's how it works in football : when fans are happy, they applause, sing, cheer, etc... when they are not, they boo. Furthermore, put aside his fangirls, everybody knows that this poor excuse of a player is a supreme flop, I am pretty sure that other teams' players and fans would understand our feelings.

1. I couldn't give a fuck if it "negatively effected torres". He can't get much worse. If thats all that happenned then by all means.

2. Obviously they are not gonna refuse playing, but torres pretty much has to play europa unless we go strikerless which rafa is never gonna do. Anti-Torres chants would effect the rest of the team. They will be pissed off with him. Everyone knows we are pissed off at him. It's not like people think we are all happy with Torres.

3. He should be leaving in the summer anyway. There are probably half a dozen games or so left. He would hopefully only play 2 of them. Whats the need now. Also Booing, and singing Fuck off Torres are 2 completely different things. Which is what i was talking about. Booing happens all the time. But there could be 7 games of the season left. Why now, when he is likely to be leaving.

The sooner he fucks off the better, because tonight was terrible. But everyone knows he was terrible and that we are not happy in the slightest with that. Airing it in any ways more severly that just booing, gives more negative publicity to us. There has already been reports this week of our fans abusing Benayoun. It's us, everything is gonna come back bite us in the ass.

Heads down, get top 4 hopefully win the europa. Torres fucks off. And we can all hopefully watch a decent striker next season.

[Jase 43,479]

Once again, he goes AWOL when come up against half decent opposition. It's showing more and more that his recent improvements owe more to the fact that we were playing below average opponents than anything else.

[Martina 210]

Does Torres actually know the fans aren't happy? His latest interview suggests otherwise (he says he wants 3 more years and has so much to give to Chelsea).

No matter what he does on the pitch Benitez mentions him in post match interviews - and you always know what he's going to say - "Torres worked really hard" is a standard reaction to a very bad performance.

I don't think the fans should turn agains Torres during matches - but what if he stays for the next season? How much more can we take?

[Styles 9,790]

He was so bad tonight you can't help but laugh. I really hope the people who make decisions at the club are watching this farce.

[manpe 10,861]

I don't think the fans should turn agains Torres during matches

I think they do. Torres may well be under the illusion that people still support him. It needs to get through to his head that he's not wanted. It got through to Benitez, now it should be Trolles' turn.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Does Torres actually know the fans aren't happy? His latest interview suggests otherwise (he says he wants 3 more years and has so much to give to Chelsea).

No matter what he does on the pitch Benitez mentions him in post match interviews - and you always know what he's going to say - "Torres worked really hard" is a standard reaction to a very bad performance.

I don't think the fans should turn agains Torres during matches - but what if he stays for the next season? How much more can we take?

Have been reading through your posts since joining the forum, and have to say now that you've posted some really clever stuff. A breath of fresh air nowadays.

Re Torres, its as if he does it on purpose sometimes. Plays well, then plays shitty (as usual). And repeatedly so in the past few months. But the fact remains, if we had a proper striker this season, it would've been a completely different story.

[Jase 43,479]

Does Torres actually know the fans aren't happy? His latest interview suggests otherwise (he says he wants 3 more years and has so much to give to Chelsea).

No matter what he does on the pitch Benitez mentions him in post match interviews - and you always know what he's going to say - "Torres worked really hard" is a standard reaction to a very bad performance.

I don't think the fans should turn agains Torres during matches - but what if he stays for the next season? How much more can we take?

Well, assuming if we get a competent manager like Mourinho then, Torres would probably be rotting on the bench for the whole season.

[Martina 210]

I suppose I feel sorry for him in a way and wish he left on his own this summer. On the other hand his latest interview made me really angry - it seems he is living in his own world detached from reality. Or - far worst - he knows he is finished and wants to stay put and make as much money as possible.

I personally never wanted Torres. My hope is our new manager (hopefully Mourinho) will deal with him.

And I have been reading this forum for a long time…but didn't "dare" to write anything…knowing what men think of women talking football :-)

[Pizy 18,368]

Someone sends a pass of more than 10 yards into him and the ball bounces off of his feet like a brick wall.

If he actually does manage to control it, he takes 2 strides and on the third touch he knocks it to the opposition.

He single handedly destroys almost every break we go on in some matches.

[Amblève. 4,995]

And I have been reading this forum for a long time…but didn't "dare" to write anything…knowing what men think of women talking football :-)

Feel free to write whatever you want!

The TC community is not sexist or whatsoever at all. If anything we're just Anti-Benitez, but that has its legitimation

[Martina 210]

If anything we're just Anti-Benitez

And that is a big plus

Here is where I seek comfort: http://rafaout.co.uk

[The Skipper 20,593]

And I have been reading this forum for a long time…but didn't "dare" to write anything…knowing what men think of women talking football :-)

Stick around, I love reading your stuff!

[Martina 210]

Stick around, I love reading your stuff!

Thank you :-)

[The Mak 4,459]

I am serious. Fans who go to the Bridge, to away games and who can go to Cobham, you should do something. Because this parasite won't leave the club — why would he ? He has a king life over here : he earns 180 000 fucking pounds each and every week, and even if he sulks and doesn't give a fuck, he is still played.

There is a fair amount of fans who give him a hard life, but compared to Bosingwa and Kalou, that's nothing, I feel. We should let him know that we don't want him here, that we want him to fuck off wherever he wants to. That's why I think that we should give him a hell of a life till the end of the season, and the better way is to have banners at stadiums which read "we don't want you here ladyboy", or this kinda slogan.

I don't know whether it will help a lot, but if he doesn't feel a hostile crowd toward him (which is currently the case), he will keep sucking our blood. At the contrary, if he sees numerous banners reading "fuck off ladyboy", if he is booed whenever he sub-on/sub-off, if there are also fans at Cobham telling him to fuck off, then he might think twice before feeling at home here.

It might look like I am leaving the dirty work to english fans, but I really do believe that we have to mobilise ourselves to show him the exit door

This and everything about it.

That's why I was so relieved when he was booed against Swansea when being exchanged for Ba back in January. I thought it might become a thing, but it seemed to only be for that game; because then we went back to cheering for his throw-in and corners...

Judging by his recent comments in the past month, about 'wanting to prove his critics wrong' and 'expecting to see out his contract', I think it might be the only way, because I think he is actually that deluded. He has to be. Either that, or he just goes home every night and laughs in his bath full of the millions he's milked from us...I honestly don't know what image makes me more angry...

I mean, why not boo him? Who cares what other people think? We're already made look like the villains, no matter what we do. The media, and Liverpool fans in particular, somehow believe we've treated him like shit, when quite the opposite has happened: we've heaped praise on someone who has clearly done nothing to deserve it. In fact, it's like he was instantly raised to legend status when he was bought. Did Drogba get such adulation for winning throw-ins and corners when he wasn't performing? I don't fucking think so...

We're already evil in everyone else's eyes. Liverpool fans believe we don't deserve him. So why not show them how 'evil' we can really be while we're at it?

[termninja 5,290]

[Hamilton 2,120]

Ouch!

[Hutcho 8,443]

Why do I get messages about torres commiting his future to the club... Seriously, are we gonna have to endure more of this shit.