Welcome Mauricio Pochettino

[milka 3,390]

Every good result win,  even draw we have this season is overhyping ,masking the truth .2 years are enough with experiments this  failure project .

Players with no football brain Jackson , Madueke , Mudryk not a Chelsea level ,  Enzo , Caicedo overhyping after every good game they have . They don't  care , they have the money anyway with 5+ years contract they don't have to earn these money ,no matter they are average .  Hazard , Pedro , Willian , Fabregas , Kante where is that level at the club  nowhere near anymore .

Manager . Mid mentality someone  need to tell him he is not at spursy to speak about  that our reality is mid table . Fuck off Bottlechino .

Managment . They don't give a shit about fans ,culture ,result they are not here to winning on the pitch anyway they are  here to make moneyball , bisuness . We have standarts set by Abramovich the most successful club in that period and i will not lower my expectation  because these clowns are here to make money . Get out go back to USA to NFL wrongers   Tod Lasso Boehly .

 

 

 

Edited February 26, 2024 by milka

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

Poch will unfortunately be the one who gets most of the blame, as hes the manager, but these owners have killed the club. Killed it. Completely. 

[Chuckso 17]

4 hours ago, ulvhedin said:

There are talks about Poch tactics, attacking patterns (or lack of them), but my question is - why do we so often look so poorly prepared in terms of fitness? Yesterday in overtime we were dying, vs City, vs Villa in cup, vs Luton, we are not playing any crazy pressing, we have no europe cups, we should be better prepared than this.

You have touched on an interesting point I have considered to an extent. Even though I cannot rate the level of fitness either being excellent, fair or poor, what I have seen is that you cover LESS ground - as such conserve fitness - by pressing. If you work a little harder to remain relatively close to your opponent to deny him time and space by pressing, it is better than letting the opponent get control of the ball, turn and start running at you or you trying a recovery run…

 

This has been the most important reason why Poch’s team has been failing - why we were outplayed by a bunch of kids - is we allow the opponents to play by our lack of intensity and pressing while they do not let us play because they press. My previous game analysis posts always highlights this. He has not organized a top class press ALL SEASON. It / He is a joke. 

[ulvhedin 525]

16 minutes ago, Chuckso said:

You have touched on an interesting point I have considered to an extent. Even though I cannot rate the level of fitness either being excellent, fair or poor, what I have seen is that you cover LESS ground - as such conserve fitness - by pressing. If you work a little harder to remain relatively close to your opponent to deny him time and space by pressing, it is better than letting the opponent get control of the ball, turn and start running at you or you trying a recovery run…

 

This has been the most important reason why Poch’s team has been failing - why we were outplayed by a bunch of kids - is we allow the opponents to play by our lack of intensity and pressing while they do not let us play because they press. My previous game analysis posts always highlights this. He has not organized a top class press ALL SEASON. It / He is a joke. 

Yeah, we have seen many times yesterday our 'two-man' press, just to be bypassed easily because rest of the team was so far away. And there were many isntances were players were arguing with each other after unsuccesfull press atemp.

[lucio 5,418]

Any talk of him getting the sack ?

[Blue Armour 4,436]

2 hours ago, lucio said:

Any talk of him getting the sack ?

IMO, very unlikely to happen this season because of FFP reasons., not unless the team pushes towards the relegation zone.

This season is done and dusted in my view. An 8th to 10th place league finish., plus whatever bonus we get from the FA cup.

 

[robsblubot 3,595]

6 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

That's what happens when you don't have any experienced players (other than Thiago Silva) to set standards in training

You think the fitness would have been this bad if Jorginho, Kante, Azpi and others were still around the first team squad? 

It's that and the simple fact most of the players in the squad are not at their peak -- too young.

When folks talk about a footballer's peak at around age 26 (depends on position) that evidently includes a good balance across the board, with better stamina and resistance.

So, who's the next B-list manager we will go after? 🤔

[lucio 5,418]

 

Get him out 

[Vegetable 830]

I envy our owners burning hundreds of millions like it was Monopoly money, that's one thing.

Second thing is: The outcome of super-duper detailed, careful and high-tech, 0% chance miss-process, that trashed high-profile managers and led to Poch appointment is apparently a trainwreck, what could be pretty easily foreseen by most of sane people, without employing the board with million+ salaries and cutting edge data analysis. Are we even serious anymore?

Not even mentioning it's pretty much a replay of Potter situation (muh data bro). Zero lessons learnt. I respect the idea of employing ideas and strategies from other sports into football, but it doesn't work for shit and even if we look at it as a multi-year project, it doesn't bare any signs of positive outcome potential. Just cut the losses already.

Edited February 26, 2024 by Vegetable

[robsblubot 3,595]

37 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

I envy our owners burning hundreds of millions like it was Monopoly money, that's one thing.

Second thing is: The outcome of super-duper detailed, careful and high-tech, 0% chance miss-process, that trashed high-profile managers and led to Poch appointment is apparently a trainwreck, what could be pretty easily foreseen by most of sane people, without employing the board with million+ salaries and cutting edge data analysis. Are we even serious anymore?

Not even mentioning it's pretty much a replay of Potter situation (muh data bro). Zero lessons learnt. I respect the idea of employing ideas and strategies from other sports into football, but it doesn't work for shit and even if we look at it as a multi-year project, it doesn't bare any signs of positive outcome potential. Just cut the losses already.

👍

I also envy folks here who believe we are in a "normal" situation: quality group of players being held back by a less than optimal manager and that a mere swap, apparently with another B-lister, would significantly improve our game.
I look at the players on the pitch and have no idea where this improvement will come from.

[Vegetable 830]

23 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

I look at the players on the pitch and have no idea where this improvement will come from.

Perhaps it belongs more to The Board thread, but yeah, the idea of relying on all the recruited staff (players/coaches/sporting department) to suddenly massively overperform after big-money move here just because they had shown a minimal bit of potential, way below of what we need, elsewhere as reliable tactic to build top-level club is something I still can't understand, yet the Board seem to be all in for it, despite the returns are rather grim so far.

When was the last time such thing actually occurred? Mendy perhaps, for a while?

Edited February 26, 2024 by Vegetable

[Blue Armour 4,436]

4 hours ago, robsblubot said:

👍

I also envy folks here who believe we are in a "normal" situation: quality group of players being held back by a less than optimal manager and that a mere swap, apparently with another B-lister, would significantly improve our game.
I look at the players on the pitch and have no idea where this improvement will come from.

All this stuff about removing Pochettino and expecting the team to become top4 quality is premature 

Younes sums it up well here.

Poch is only a PART of the problem. The squad changes and the behind the scenes administrative changes have crippled the club.