NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, chelsea_4_eva said: I read Koundes buy out clause has now risen We are not paying even first one, no chance. We will get him for less money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Even if we sell Zouma... do we even need Kounde? It only makes sense if TT perceives him as an LCB, which would be odd, cos he usually plays on the right. 5 players for 3 positions is usually adequate...I see we are planning for the future here. Trev is the only CB I would consider young. Still 80m+ € is a huge investment for a position we are set up well in. Absolute luxury signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 It is not luxury. We may be in position to need to buy 3 CBs next summer. So it's smart thinking to get him now. Also Chalobah played LCB in France so he will be Rudiger backup for that role. Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,280 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Kounde/Christensen/Rudiger/Dave/Silva/Chalobah Not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 We are building a monster of a team here, and under TT it will do damage bigbluewillie and DDA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,943 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Koundé would be Azpi’s long term replacement. He is still great to have in the squad but his pace and athleticism has been waning in recent years. Koundé is picture perfect for that RCB spot. Pretty clear that TT very much rates AC and he will likely be the long term CB who plays in the middle once Thiago Silva moves on. So a back 3 for the next few years of Koundé, AC, and Rüdiger. Has everything you’d want. BenjaminBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 It's a big 'if' for now, but if we were to swap Zouma for Kounde within our squad and add a midfielder like Saul I would argue we'd have a very legitimate case for the strongest, deepest and most well balanced squad in world football with an excellent blend of youth and experience, and no glaring weaknesses. It's a far cry to how we were shaping up just over 2 years ago with Hazard leaving and a transfer ban in place. DDA, Fernando and Strike 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Yesterday showed yet again why relying solely on Jorginho as the holder would be a mistake. He was very leggy and defensively just poor. Giving him unlimited minutes with no real competition for him will have us see more of last season's West Brom and Arsenal performances where he literally gifts goals. mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Yesterday showed yet again why relying solely on Jorginho as the holder would be a mistake. He was very leggy and defensively just poor. Giving him unlimited minutes with no real competition for him will have us see more of last season's West Brom and Arsenal performances where he literally gifts goals. Hes only effective in that area when kante is next to him imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, BluesMadLad said: Hes only effective in that area when kante is next to him imo. You can see the complacency in his game at times. Be it being overplayed or lack of urgency given he knows he will always start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,621 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 i want a midfielder please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: You can see the complacency in his game at times. Be it being overplayed or lack of urgency given he knows he will always start. Do you really believe he will grow complacent? I dont.....and TT would hand him his ass as soon as he sees it. No worries at all for me there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Matt says Saul is dependent on moving Barkley and Drinkwater out on loan. Warning_Hazard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Just now, ZAPHOD2319 said: Matt says Saul is dependent on moving Barkley and Drinkwater out on loan. I think someone will be prepared to take a punt on Barkley on loan. I think we'll struggle to move Drinkwater unless we heavily subsidise his wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 If we are really considering a loan it confirms to me, that we are simply holding out for Rice. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, whats happening said: i want a midfielder please Both Kounde and Chalobah can play there along with RLC being amongst the ranks. I really would worry as much as others have been. Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,943 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 My only real views on Saul Niguez come from a couple of years ago when he was awesome. I remember people talking about him as an £80m+ player when he was linked with United a while ago. But reading around a few places and it seems he’s been really far away from that player he was for a bit? As long as he’s someone that Tuchel himself has specifically asked for that’s great. He’s clearly highly talented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Hermione said: Saul on loan with option to buy would be amazing though. yeah I dig it too......TT and Chels would suit him well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Artandur said: If we are really considering a loan it confirms to me, that we are simply holding out for Rice. I think with Saul it's way more likely the club are simply reluctant to pay +40M and hand a 5 year contract with wages of more than 200K/wk to a player who has not been at his best level lately so a loan with an option to buy makes a lot more sense. If he can get back to his best in a new environment then activating the buy option next year is a no-brainer but if he's not a huge success he can just be shipped back to Atletico next year. Even with a loan I'd think it's going to be an expensive deal, would assume roughly a £10M loan fee and paying his full wages so around £20M for the season. But the potential upside is huge if we get the prime-Saul so I'd definitely be willing to try. Edited August 23, 2021 by Jype Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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