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On 15/06/2022 at 13:35, Tomo said:

Not going to happen.

Yes, purely because we stuck with him for three and a half years. Getting Torres meant we couldn't put our name in the hat for Aguero, Falcao and Cavani when they became available and we started signing players (and managers in Rafa's case) who would have worked/did work well with the prime version to try and coax something resembling form from him. Not to mention the toxic positivity the crowd and his fanboys spread every time he done something resembling a footballer.

As terrible as Lukaku has been we thankfully seem to be getting shot early and Tuchel quickly dropped him.

I think it is much worse when you realize and admit your mistake after one season, also Torres signing was much better without hindsight. You may view Torres fans as toxic, but in Lukaku case he is himself is toxic which is why he is being shipped out despite a 100m loss lol.

If Lukaku had the same attitude as Torres, Tuchel would give him much more opportunity. 
 

 

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Torres had a horrible attitude and it reflected on the pitch with his body language. 
 

Thank god RDM had the balls to drop him from the first five penalty takers or we would’ve lost in Munich. 

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Now I’m seeing 50m or more for Sterling. Hmmm, not crazy about him for that price. 

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Inter refused to swap a player for Lukaku??

We have been royally fucked over in this one. 

We should fuck this deal off and let him rot in the reserves.

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17 minutes ago, DDA said:

Inter refused to swap a player for Lukaku??

We have been royally fucked over in this one. 

We should fuck this deal off and let him rot in the reserves.

Or take 10 millions pound instead sounds better!!! Of he has a great season they will throw 60m at us next season for permanent surely....

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I just fear that if we spend too much on Sterling we won’t have anything left for another forward once we buy a couple of CB’s. That’s why getting Dembele would be so massive. Saves us a shed load of cash.

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1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Now I’m seeing 50m or more for Sterling. Hmmm, not crazy about him for that price. 

Tbh, in this market that is a deal. I know he is inconsistent but his stats last few seasons he has got into double figures for goals and assists. His record is brilliant and his injury record is brilliant too. Anyone with the stats he has, that should be considered a top deal for us because he is adding quality to us. I don't think he will get the same goals he does with us that he did with City, however stats wise, we are getting a player who has proven quality in the prem.

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1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Now I’m seeing 50m or more for Sterling. Hmmm, not crazy about him for that price. 

everywhere said £35m, so NOW it is magically £50m?????

his contract runs out in 12 months

fuck paying £50m for him, that's highway robbery

he isn't goddamn Mbappe or prime Jairzinho in 1970 ffs

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10 minutes ago, Strike said:

 

 

If we get him for £30-40m (lot of talk about £35m being the fee) I think it will be a pretty good deal. Hopefully means we see the back of Werner and Ziyech too. Will definitely provide goals and assists.  

9 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I just fear that if we spend too much on Sterling we won’t have anything left for another forward once we buy a couple of CB’s. That’s why getting Dembele would be so massive. Saves us a shed load of cash.

Theres no way we are paying what City want for a player with one year left on his deal - £60m apparently….

And regardless, we need more than just Dembele. We need to upgrade on Ziyech, Timo and potentially even look at what does CHO offer, who I think may end up getting loaned out at this rate based on his overall development as a footballer the past 3 seasons. Not to mention Lukaku going.

Plus Dembele has still very much got to prove his consistency, fitness and that he can deliver regularly. Just because hes on a free doesn’t necessarily mean hes going to instantly be an absolute steal or save us cash  as theres still a lot of ifs and buts with him. No doubts he is a good player with a huge ceiling but barring the last half a season and his first 2 big seasons in France and Germany the rest has been very meh due to inconsistencies, lack of focus and injuries. I do think TT can get more from him than others as shown at Dortmund.

I doubt the new owner is going to hamstring Tuchel in his first major window and blow too much money on Sterling and CBs when we 100% need a striker now it looks likely Lukaku will go. Its clear there will be more leaving too.

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1 hour ago, Mário César said:

still a upgrade to our attack

if we sell ziyech and get sterling, I think is a great upgrade

Yes, he's way more consistent than any attacker we have right now.

The only consideration is can he make it work in the black hole that is a Chelsea attack? He thrived in Liverpool and City sides that had a very attacking style and tons of forward players.

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On 15/06/2022 at 18:35, Tomo said:

we started signing players (and managers in Rafa's case) who would have worked/did work well with the prime version to try and coax something resembling form from him [Torres].

I always scoffed at the idea that Rafa's working relationship with Nando was a factor in his appointment as temporary manager. Before the end of their time together at Liverpool Benitez had seen through the number 9. We didn't appoint a man with a magic Torres wand, we appointed a manager who knew the truth that Fernando was then, and always had been, an ordinary footballer.

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we need sterling but we also need dembele and sell ziyech and possible pulisic

puli & ziyech - > sterling & dembele 

clear upgrade

lets see.... but its almost impossible to happen the two business

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1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Now I’m seeing 50m or more for Sterling. Hmmm, not crazy about him for that price. 

That's City's asking price. The numbers quoted by Di Marzio (35m pounds) is a market realistic deal for Sterling.

 

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2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Torres had a horrible attitude and it reflected on the pitch with his body language. 
 

Thank god RDM had the balls to drop him from the first five penalty takers or we would’ve lost in Munich. 

Would have been interesting to know where he placed on the penalty taker list because in an interview after the game Cahill said he was sixth.

 

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