The Tuchel Thread

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

hace 10 minutos, Jas dijo:

But it's a trophy - if you want to call it that - that people only care if the team win and don't care if they lose. Totally different to the others. 

That is also true. I suppose though if its against any of these direct rivals it should be treated as a opportunity to gauge where the teams at and maybe get off to a good start. Or thats the way I look at it. Its never going to decide a season obviously or be a huge positive or negative but its a game that even for a tinpot trophy, depending on the manager may vary in terms of must win or just a friendly but still can be used as a tool.

Edited May 15, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

That is also true. I suppose though if its against any of these direct rivals it should be treated as a opportunity to gauge where the teams at and maybe get off to a good start. Or thats the way I look at it. Its never going to decide a season obviously or be a huge positive or negative but its a game that even for a tinpot trophy.

Arsenal managed to beat Liverpool in the Community Shield this season and look where they are now. 

[Vesper 30,085]

12 minutes ago, Jas said:

But it's a trophy - if you want to call it that - that people only care if the team win and don't care if they lose. Totally different to the others. 

under Roman, winning two and losing 7 is SHAMEFUL

I want EVERY trophy EVERY year, ALWAYS

the minute that desire floods out of my being, I am done with football

Edited May 15, 2021 by Vesper

[Mário César 1,232]

Just now, Mana said:

Does Kepa really need to be sold at the moment? No, he has improved since the last time he started a run of games under Lampard.

But should he return as no.1? Hell no. He's improved, but he has gone from an awful, disgusting keeper to an average keeper. He's not going to be better than average.

Mendy is levels above Kepa.

Have people forgotten the reason why we won at the Etihad was because of Mendy's class saves?!?! He would have been a difference against Arsenal (because Arsenal wouldn't park the bus) AND would have definitely stopped Tielemans goal.

Kepa wasn't at fault for both goals like I did, but a class keeper would have gone and beyond what an average keeper like Kepa would do.

Leaving out Mendy for Kepa is one of the major reasons why we have suffered back to back defeats. And that falls on TT!

Exacly. Sadly, its TT fault.

[Vesper 30,085]

1 minute ago, Mana said:

Does Kepa really need to be sold at the moment? No, he has improved since the last time he started a run of games under Lampard.

But should he return as no.1? Hell no. He's improved, but he has gone from an awful, disgusting keeper to an average keeper. He's not going to be better than average.

Mendy is levels above Kepa.

Have people forgotten the reason why we won at the Etihad was because of Mendy's class saves?!?! He would have been a difference against Arsenal (because Arsenal wouldn't park the bus) AND would have definitely stopped Tielemans goal.

Kepa wasn't at fault for both goals like I did, but a class keeper would have gone and beyond what an average keeper like Kepa would do.

Leaving out Mendy for Kepa is one of the major reasons why we have suffered back to back defeats. And that falls on TT!

this!!!

and also SELL kepa anyway

he is shit

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

Justo ahora, Jas dijo:

Arsenal managed to beat Liverpool in the Community Shield this season and look where they are now. 

Also true.

It depends as well though, some teams would maybe go on and have a good run after it. Some don’t as Arsenal haven’t.

I think years ago it had more value to managers like Mourinho and Ferguson. Despite it being a glorified friendly either way.

[Milan 17,955]

12 minutes ago, Vesper said:

under Roman, winning two and losing 7 is SHAMEFUL

I want EVERY trophy EVERY year, ALWAYS

the minute that desire floods out of my being, I am done with football

We are on the verge of first time under Roman that we will be trophyless in 2 consecutive seasons.

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Mana said:

Fecking hell. Imagine Arsenal fans going on about numpty Arteta still won more English trophies than Lampard and Tuchel at the end of the season (which is true already actually).

Oh, you care about the trophies now? Thought you only care about Top 4? 

[Milan 17,955]

1 minute ago, Jas said:

Oh, you care about the trophies now? Thought you only care about Top 4? 

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Mana said:

Shut up dumbass.

🤣

Look who's the dumbass trying to resort to insults now after being called out...

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Mana said:

You're a dumbass because you think the FA Cup is the only trophy we can get every year.

lol Am not the one who was/is screaming to care only about the Top 4 and nothing else. 

[Jase 43,479]

8 minutes ago, Mana said:

I don't know what you have been reading. You need a pair of glasses. 🤣

Never did I say I only want top 4 and nothing else. Quote me if you can.

You complained about the starting XI against Arsenal and kept banging on about the top 4 more than anything else in midweek.

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Mana said:

Quote me. Because while I remember me banging on about the starting XI for Arsenal and top 4, not once did I say that's more important than the CL.

You were certainly implying it. And heck, you even responded more to us losing in the Top 4 race than the cup final!

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Beaten guardiola, zidane, klopp etc only to be bested by Brenden fucking Rodgers.

The Lampard project was probably doomed anyway but if we end up with nothing it was just a wasted 2 years.

TT on course to managing two finals losses and miss out on top 4 after getting all hopes up while scoring  the minimum necessary goals in the process. That is another level of frustrating.

Massively got it wrong today. Started our 4 worst players Kepa, alonso,jorginho and ziyech and paid the price for it.

All will be forgiven if we win the CL: But does anyone still believe. the team does not look like it for one.

Edited May 15, 2021 by Magic Lamps

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

Not sure why many are surprised with team selection. 

Kepa played all games in Fa Cup, it was clear he would play today. Clearly not at fault for anything. 

Last 2 games Alonso scored winner against City and Chilwell very quiet against Arsenal. It was logical he would play because of this. 

And attackers? Pulisic and Havertz started against Arsenal and did not deliver. Plus who got us in final? Yes Werner and Ziyech with combo in semis against City.

So not sure what you lot expected?