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hace 4 horas, Jas dijo:

It depends. They jumped on Pochettino and Silva because they were relatively unknowns and have not achieved anything of note. Guardiola and Sarri got battered because they wanted to do things their way, things that are unconventional to how English football have seen over the years and let's not forget Guardiola had (still has) a strong CV after Barcelona and Bayern when he came to City. If Nagelsmann is appointed by one of those clubs, I doubt they would question him so much since he's widely regarded as the best young manager out there and the English press seem fascinated by him because on what I've seen.

Maybe Nagelsmann was a bad example.

But someone else, I don’t know who else it could be but someone who is maybe in the bracket of not a novice coach but someone who isnt exactly a household name. As you said before, guys in the mould of Pochettino, Marco Silva etc.

For instance maybe Sarri or someone going in to replace one of these guys Pep or Klopp as unlikely as it would be. Or maybe even the sort of press Villas-Boas got replacing everyone’s favourite Harry Redknapp, which after the media scrutiny he got after his spell here was never going to bode well.

Unfortunately whoever came in after Frank was going to get some sort of shit from the media. Be it right or wrong, its to be expected.

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Took us from 10th to finishing 4th. This has to be credited. Yes, we lost the final game but he gave us the chance to fight for the top 4 after that Lampard fiasco. And we did it. With luck. Again. Ju

A manager taking responsibility? Preposterous!

I tell you what, it you're so convinced this season is going to be shit, would you be willing to put your money where your mouth is? If we finish outside the top four I'll donate £200 to the foru

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14 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

But what gap? First part of the season is pretty much irrelevant. Since Tuchel is here we finished 2nd with 7 points behind City. And this team should won against WBA, Arsenal, Brighton...  Timo and Kai have big chances conversation rate of around 25%. Basically we just need them to be more clinical and I think this team can win title even without any new players.

Secondly I never understood this narrative of closing the gap... We finished behind Liverpool 2 points this season and 33 in the season before. Everything can change.

I mean, of all fans, we should know this... We finished 1st, 10th, 1st, 5th in 4 seasons in a row...

Us, Pool, City... All these teams can have 65 points next season or 95. We dont know that... We all start from zero and there is no any gap.

I mean the gap to the team at the top. You're right this season we've closed the gap on Liverpool but essentially we're not really any closer to the title than we were the year before when we're that far behind, so it's difficult to argue there was any progress this season with regards to our league form.

I don't want us holding on to 4th place going into the last game of the season again. There has to be progress with regards to being closer to the top of the league. My hope is that even if we finish a few points off top spot next season, progress will be identified by the club and more time will be given to Tuchel. 

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Honestly, I would go all out for Sancho rather than Lukaku and carry on playing Havertz in the false 9/hybrid role. 

Then a ball playing CM who has vision

 and a CB.. Kounde.

These 3 additions would put us in serious contention for the title. 

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37 minutes ago, DDA said:

Honestly, I would go all out for Sancho rather than Lukaku and carry on playing Havertz in the false 9/hybrid role. 

Then a ball playing CM who has vision

 and a CB.. Kounde.

These 3 additions would put us in serious contention for the title. 

Jules Koundé is a tiny, short CB, only 1.78m

we would get roasted alive on crosses, free kicks, corners

overrated IMHO, and he is not even a left-footer

hard pass

so many other, more suitable options

These are the only left-footed CB's I rate atm (they are so rare, Pep is going for Bastoni, and has Ake and Laporte as well, and has been sniffing around Pau Torres too)


Alessandro Bastoni   (my choice, but will be expensive , at least $65-70m, maybe more)
Aymeric Laporte (if Citeh is selling him to fund buys)

Pau Torres   
Alessio Romagnoli (AC are selling him, they need cash)
Sven Botman (1.95m 21 year old Dutch CB from Lille, a monster in the making)

Benoît Badiashile (1.94m 20 year old French CB from Monaco)
Evan N'Dicka    
Josko Gvardiol (19yo Croatian from Dinamo Zagreb)
Renan Victor da Silva (a just turned 19yo from Palmeiras)
David Carmo 1.96m 21yo from Braga

only ambipedal CB I rate is Caglar Söyüncü and he would be crazy overpriced

 

in terms of right-footed CB's


Marquinhos  
Raphaël Varane  (Real will cut a deal, or he walks on a free in 2022)  
José María Giménez    (too expensive a release clause at 120m euros, and injuries worry me)
Wesley Fofana 
Milan Skriniar    
Maxence Lacroix  
Duje Caleta-Car

Gianluca Mancini 

  

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6 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

But what gap? First part of the season is pretty much irrelevant. Since Tuchel is here we finished 2nd with 7 points behind City. And this team should won against WBA, Arsenal, Brighton...  Timo and Kai have big chances conversation rate of around 25%. Basically we just need them to be more clinical and I think this team can win title even without any new players.

Secondly I never understood this narrative of closing the gap... We finished behind Liverpool 2 points this season and 33 in the season before. Everything can change.

I mean, of all fans, we should know this... We finished 1st, 10th, 1st, 5th in 4 seasons in a row...

Us, Pool, City... All these teams can have 65 points next season or 95. We dont know that... We all start from zero and there is no any gap.

 

6 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I mean the gap to the team at the top. You're right this season we've closed the gap on Liverpool but essentially we're not really any closer to the title than we were the year before when we're that far behind, so it's difficult to argue there was any progress this season with regards to our league form.

I don't want us holding on to 4th place going into the last game of the season again. There has to be progress with regards to being closer to the top of the league. My hope is that even if we finish a few points off top spot next season, progress will be identified by the club and more time will be given to Tuchel. 

Have we actually closed the gap on Liverpool? I mean the points gap is one thing but there is still no telling the difference or disparity in performance level over the course of the season between us and them because of the injury problems they had this season. 

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3 minutes ago, Jas said:

 

Have we actually closed the gap on Liverpool? I mean the points gap is one thing but there is still no telling the difference or disparity in performance level over the course of the season between us and them because of the injury problems they had this season. 

With Lukaku we will increase the gap for sure, even if points will look closer. What a disgusting way to wake up to and read were linked to that joke.

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9 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Maybe Nagelsmann was a bad example.

But someone else, I don’t know who else it could be but someone who is maybe in the bracket of not a novice coach but someone who isnt exactly a household name. As you said before, guys in the mould of Pochettino, Marco Silva etc.

For instance maybe Sarri or someone going in to replace one of these guys Pep or Klopp as unlikely as it would be. Or maybe even the sort of press Villas-Boas got replacing everyone’s favourite Harry Redknapp, which after the media scrutiny he got after his spell here was never going to bode well.

Unfortunately whoever came in after Frank was going to get some sort of shit from the media. Be it right or wrong, its to be expected.

Stop trying to defend the English media! 🤣

Seriously fuck the English media!

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I wonder what happened to TT's lucky shoes. After reading the confirmation of the backstory, I now get why they were so central to our celebrations. I really hope they were recovered lol. Did anyone spot the model anyway?

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11 hours ago, Jas said:

 

hopefully this motivates him to finally do the new stadium

4 things left on my bucket list for Chels

in order of their happening possibly (should be)

1. Win the Super Cup for Roman this August.

2. Finally win our first FIFA World Club Championship this December.

3. Have a Chels player win the Ballon d'Or whilst a Chels player (Kante has a great shot this year!)

4. Build this:

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Herzog & de Meuron submits plans for Chelsea football stadium redesign

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As impressive as that stadium is, we really missed a trick by not getting Battersea station, as I understand it, it wasn't our fault as the property game ultimately won, but still, would have been a sight to see.. And easier for me to get to.. 😏

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10 hours ago, Vesper said:

hopefully this motivates him to finally do the new stadium

4 things left on my bucket list for Chels

in order of their happening possibly (should be)

1. Win the Super Cup for Roman this August.

2. Finally win our first FIFA World Club Championship this December.

3. Have a Chels player win the Ballon d'Or whilst a Chels player (Kante has a great shot this year!)

4. Build this:

Elevation.  New Chelsea FC Stadium by Herzog & de Meuron. Image © Herzog & de Meuron.

Detail Façade. New Chelsea FC Stadium by Herzog & de Meuron. Image © Herzog & de Meuron.

JCR_SAH_030316Stamford9.jpg

vrHKzRZ.jpg

New Chelsea FC Stadium by Herzog & de Meuron. Image © Herzog & de Meuron.

JCR_SAH_030316Stamford1.jpg

Chelsea New Stadium - Images 3 - YouTube

New Chelsea FC Stadium by Herzog & de Meuron. Image © Herzog & de Meuron.

JCR_SAH_030316Stamford5.jpg

def36a88d820435abf32fc0be1045604.jpg

Overview. New Chelsea FC Stadium by Herzog & de Meuron. Image © Herzog & de Meuron.

JCR_SAH_030316Stamford8.jpg

New Chelsea FC Stadium by Herzog & de Meuron. Image © Herzog & de Meuron.

ca80e14adbc61d6b3a44fcebfbc9d07d.jpg

Outside vision. New Chelsea FC Stadium by Herzog & de Meuron. Image © Herzog & de Meuron.

JCR_SAH_030316Stamford2.jpg

JCR_SAH_030316Stamford4.jpg

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Herzog & de Meuron submits plans for Chelsea football stadium redesign

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I strongly doubt that the stadium plans will be resumed. In the end it is just a marginal source of income but would take an investment multiple times the clubs revenue. Match day revenue is not scalable, tv money is so I rather have the club invest more in its brand than in old world assets 

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50 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

I strongly doubt that the stadium plans will be resumed. In the end it is just a marginal source of income but would take an investment multiple times the clubs revenue. Match day revenue is not scalable, tv money is so I rather have the club invest more in its brand than in old world assets 

Physical plant expenditures on a new stadium are off balance sheet for the club in terms of net profit/loss calculations. If Roman funds it, then there is nothing but upside long term. It is vital we build it, including it's pulling power psychologically during recruitment in the transfer market.

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4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Physical plant expenditures on a new stadium are off balance sheet for the club in terms of net profit/loss calculations. If Roman funds it, then there is nothing but upside long term. It is vital we build it, including it's pulling power psychologically during recruitment in the transfer market.

Think he wanted to fund it himself until the visa cunts came in.

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