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Potter, before Brighton, actually took a Swedish farmer team all the way to EL group stage defeating teams like Galatasaray etc. 
The way he got the team playing was amazing when you looked at the players he had in the team.
 

When Potter was the head coach they targeted budget players and/or players who had problems with attitudes and turned them in to really good players. Without Potter, the farmer team now looking to be demoted for the second year in a row and to end up in the third division. 
 

The farmer team = Östersund FK

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That really sucks. One of the few Chelsea managers I genuinely liked. I should've known better given our history with managers, but yeah... it is what it is.

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6 minutes ago, Costa19 said:

Potter, before Brighton, actually took a Swedish farmer team all the way to EL group stage defeating teams like Galatasaray etc. 
The way he got the team playing was amazing when you looked at the players he had in the team.
 

When Potter was the head coach they targeted budget players and/or players who had problems with attitudes and turned them in to really good players. Without Potter, the farmer team now looking to be demoted for the second year in a row and to end up in the third division. 
 

The farmer team = Östersund FK

Can he do something similar with a team that made a selection for nearly 300 million

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2 minutes ago, different level said:

That really sucks. One of the few Chelsea managers I genuinely liked. I should've known better given our history with managers, but yeah... it is what it is.

Still with the new owners I thought they were going to back him and give time, so it stays a Chelsea thing

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Just come out of a meeting to this and yet again, this club never fails to amaze me. I wonder if I was cursed many years ago, because we are nothing short of a circus most of the time.

On one side of things I can understand. It was becoming increasingly clear that there were problems at the club and Tuchel was not finding the answers to them. From what it sounds like this has been brewing and we all know from past history Tuchel struggles to manage upwards. He was insulated here previously, and now has owners who from a footballing perspective do need that help and support at least initially. He had the keys to the kingdom potentially and if he wasn't willing to ride that out for a bit then that is on him, because in time the club would have brought in footballing people above him. I did feel when Cech went that he'd be a more important loss initially than he was given credit for and I wonder if some of these possible internal issues would have been as problematic if he was still at the club as a bridge between board and coach.

On the flip side though, Tuchel has been left in an alien position where he's almost having to almost supply people above him with knowledge and understanding. It would have made so much more sense to me for them to get that structure in place and then make a decision if things weren't improving. When we have an international break in 2 weeks time and then the World Cup break for a few weeks in a couple of months time, it does feel like they've pulled the trigger very quickly with this.

If this isn't kneejerk and has been coming then why did we buy Aubameyang. If Boehly was that fixated on Ronaldo from a marketing perspective and knew Tuchel wouldn't be staying here anyway then why not go that route? I'm not saying Ronaldo is the right solution over Auba but he is clearly a Tuchel signing which was only done a week ago.

Regarding a replacement, I'm not against taking a punt with Graham Potter but its a gamble whether he can take that 'next step' much like when buying players from smaller clubs. It's easy to look at Brighton now and forget that he's had periods of his tenure where they've struggled and gone 'x' games without a win or even 'x' games without a goal. He would need giving time and patience too, something I now question whether the new ownership is willing to provide, but also something I question most fans are willing to afford. Beyond that though, the options are limited in my opinion. Zidane I don't think is the right move, and I don't like the idea of Poch who I've spoken against many times before. There's a couple of possible candidates in international roles but they're not going to be available until after the World Cup, so again goes back to making this decision so quickly. 

 

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