The Tuchel Thread

[DH1988 1,348]

Love the guy, personality and his demeanour is on point. Pray our board does not mess this up. Interview up on Chelsea YouTube that sums him up, in my opinion. 

[Tomo 21,751]

On 26/07/2021 at 00:56, Clockwork said:

Similar to Conte, Tuchel needs to evolve in his second season if he is going to be successful. Conte couldn’t, after teams found a way to play against his system and it became very clear of it’s weakness by the end of first season. Similarly I think Tuchel faces similar challenge.

Conte didn't get "found out" until he started sulking and half arsing the job.

We were second going into the second half of the season, all be it miles behind City.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

2 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

Quality mate

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

He has been frustrated by player acquisition in the past. It is nice to see that because he lets the administration do their job, he is more focused on what he loves to do. I hope this trust continues.

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[milka 3,393]

 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

The whole team atmosphere just feels so harmonious with TT in charge. Real team spirit, everyone being happy for the next guy and supporting, just after Kai missed, the rest of the team welcomed him back into the group, so no one missed after him. Maybe the feeling of security that the group will accept him nonetheless played a part. TT always gives the impression that he respects and appreciates everymember of the squad no matter his role and this vindicates everyone's role in the group. He has really come a long way from being the technocratic tacitcal genius as which he was known in Germany to be an overall world class team and people manager.

[Mário César 1,280]

3 minutes ago, Mana said:

After the Super Cup, I am worried. Most of these players still aren't good enough to improve our results/performances for next season.

They are more or less the same except maybe Ziyech (and now he's injured for good knows how long). 

Adding Lukaku may not change the outcome of the results because the most of the midfield are poor and most games are won by the midfield. 

Lukaku would have to do a lot of create a lot of something out of nothing chances if he's ever going to score 20+ PL goals.

And Werner...my good grief. This guy has completely lost it. What a flop of a player.

I'm sure we will have good cup runs, but when it comes to the league this is where the inconsistency shows time and time again.

Prepare for another frustrating season in the league.

I think that we will struggle to get top4

Maybe we continue to reach +- 75 points sadly

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

8 minutes ago, Mana said:

 

We just won one of two priorities for you this season. Be happy!

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

13 minutes ago, Mana said:

After the Super Cup, I am worried. Most of these players still aren't good enough to improve our results/performances for next season.

They are more or less the same except maybe Ziyech (and now he's injured for good knows how long). 

Adding Lukaku may not change the outcome of the results because the most of the midfield are poor and most games are won by the midfield. 

Lukaku would have to do a lot of create a lot of something out of nothing chances if he's ever going to score 20+ PL goals. Even if Lukaku sets up other players to score, we would have to rely on these players' shooting boots and their boots are all over the place. Not ONE player is consistent in this area.

And Werner...my good grief. This guy has completely lost it. What a flop of a player.

I'm sure we will have good cup runs, but when it comes to the league this is where the inconsistency shows time and time again.

Prepare for another frustrating season in the league.

 

9 minutes ago, Mário César said:

I think that we will struggle to get top4

Maybe we continue to reach +- 75 points sadly

Come on, i am usually a bit pessimistic myself, but super cup is hardly a benchmark of how the season is gonna unfold.

Clearly our Euros returnees are not yet up to speed so we played with a makeshift team through pre-season and today.

Our jewel will be defense again and we only had one out of 5 defenders from our usual lineup. With the big guys coming back we will look much more solid. Midfield is a bit of a worry, without kante our midfield looks quite average but enough for top 4.

Offense will decide where we finish but even if Lukaku does not add those elusive 20+ goals i am confident we will score enough to secure top 4. i think we do create enough chances to win more comfortably. Last season we lost most points vs shitty oppositions who park the bus under Tuchel. Even if we only get the everton/Manure Lukaku and not the magically transformed Inter one, it sould be a peace of cake for him to score his usual clusters vs bottom half teams. If our strikers are not again all totally misfiring, i am not worried here at all. we should be good enough for FCWC as well so that is our main priorities right there.

[Mário César 1,280]

Im think that our midfield is not good enough 

[Vesper 30,219]

1 hour ago, milka said:

 

it is actually only 6 and half months

January 26th to August 11th

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

21 minutes ago, Mário César said:

Im think that our midfield is not good enough 

We probably need a defender, a CM and maybe another RWB. I hope we close the Kounde and Tchoumani deals this week or early next week. Leaving signings this late is never good, we should have brought them in early for preseason

[Mário César 1,280]

1 minute ago, Vybz Kartel said:

We probably need a defender, a CM and maybe another RWB. I hope we close the Kounde and Tchoumani deals this week or early next week. Leaving signings this late is never good, we should have brought them in early for preseason

And I think that we lack of criavity in the middle.

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

Just now, Mário César said:

And I think that we lack of criavity in the middle.

Yes we do, but I think Ziyech can solve that. Hopefully he is out for less than a month. We will need his creativity in tight games like today. 

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

4 minutes ago, Mário César said:

And I think that we lack of criavity in the middle.

 

3 minutes ago, Vybz Kartel said:

Yes we do, but I think Ziyech can solve that. Hopefully he is out for less than a month. We will need his creativity in tight games like today. 

Kai had last season 7 open play assists and he played like 2500 minutes.

I have big hopes from him in this department but also in goals.

Did not had good game last night but still managed great assist. This season he must go over 10 maybe 15 assists.

[Vesper 30,219]

7 minutes ago, Mário César said:

Im think that our midfield is not good enough 

Nicolò Barella is the closest thing out there to Kante on the planet atm IMHO. a free floating wrecking ball with relentless drive (will have to be next season)

Aurélien Tchouaméni is a freak on nature talent, a crunching DMF with great technical skills

those two in a double pivot is league winning level

other options

Frenkie de Jong (if Barca collapse and he wants out)
Marcos Llorente  
Declan Rice    
Sergej Milinković-Savić    
Leon Goretzka  (if he refuses to renew with Bayern)
Fede Valverde  
Eduardo Camavinga   
Jude Bellingham    
Franck Kessié   
Youri Tielemans
Florian Wirtz  
Rúben Neves
Houssem Aouar   
Carlos Soler   
Kalvin Phillips   
Lorenzo Pellegrini
Tomas Soucek    
Saúl Ñíguez 
Ismaël Bennacer  
Boubacar Kamara  
Manuel Locatelli   
Ryan Gravenberch  
Bruno Guimarães   
Leander Dendoncker
Sandro Tonali 
Ilaix Moriba 
Weston McKennie 
Gerson 
Julian Weigl  
Corentin Tolisso 
Eljif Elmas 
Patrick de Paula    
Lucas Gourna-Douath 

[Tomo 21,751]

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Edited August 12, 2021 by Tomo

[Tomo 21,751]

9 hours ago, Mana said:

After the Super Cup, I am worried. Most of these players still aren't good enough to improve our results/performances for next season.

They are more or less the same except maybe Ziyech (and now he's injured for good knows how long). 

Adding Lukaku may not change the outcome of the results because the most of the midfield are poor and most games are won by the midfield. 

Lukaku would have to do a lot of create a lot of something out of nothing chances if he's ever going to score 20+ PL goals. Even if Lukaku sets up other players to score, we would have to rely on these players' shooting boots and their boots are all over the place. Not ONE player is consistent in this area.

And Werner...my good grief. This guy has completely lost it. What a flop of a player.

I'm sure we will have good cup runs, but when it comes to the league this is where the inconsistency shows time and time again.

Prepare for another frustrating season in the league.

I tell you what, it you're so convinced this season is going to be shit, would you be willing to put your money where your mouth is?

If we finish outside the top four I'll donate £200 to the forum, if we finish inside it you do.

If for any reason you don't bet money wise, loser forefits posting rights for the following season.

Deal?