The Conte Thread

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

The rumours were on twitter Nizaar Kinsella, and Darren Lewis from The Mirror shot it down

[Tomo 21,733]

16 hours ago, Azpinator said:

Revisionist history.

The 15-16 team couldn't build up to save their lives. As bad as we are right now, we still are capable of creating chances.

I know fans often like to romanticize the past and compare it favourably to the present, but they are really taking the piss doing that with the 15/16 season, jeez.

[El P. 1,354]

On 09. 04. 2018. at 0:25 AM, Mana said:

To me it is. Or maybe he doesn't know any other tactic apart from the damn 3-4-3 formation. Even dinosaur Wenger changes his tactics when he is under pressure, and tries to switch it up (even though he fails at times) but at least he was trying something different.

Well, I think he has made a lot of mistakes. His subs are always somewhat too late, also players like Emerson and Giroud should've been given more chances.

But, he tried 3-5-2. He tried 3-4-3 with false 9. He tried Cesc as CAM, he tried Cesc in 2-man midfield. He tried some things. Reverting to 4-man defense, with this squad which is really suited for 3/5 in defense, isn't really a problem. I mean, yes, we are desperate, but changing to 4 in defense with this squad would be just that - one desperate try, an empty shoot, so what happens happens. You all must be thinking - well, we cannot do any worse than this. Well, guess what - WE CAN.

No one can convince me that Azpi - Christy - Rudy - Alonso defense would bring us anything special.

We actually have the worst defense, by names, in top-5 now. There is a reason why we play with 5 defenders - to cover all their weaknesses. Even Liverpool have brought VVD and are looking solid and better than us now, no need to mention Spurs or City.

[Fulham Broadway 16,915]

He's definitely not content and probably con temporary.

I'll get my coat....

[Jase 43,479]

5 minutes ago, Mana said:

Fuck all of the posters who said/agree this season isn't as bad as 2015/16. It's almost the same, just higher league position.

We are freefalling and there's no sign of us stopping.

Terrible terrible season. Conte out now.

To be fair, we're just doing 2015/16 in reverse...

[Milan 17,859]

Well, in 2015/16 we also came back at Southampton when our main objectives were gone  

[Johnnyeye 7,444]

15 minutes ago, milan.cech said:

Well, in 2015/16 we also came back at Southampton when our main objectives were gone  

can they do the same in the FA Cup semi? we'll see what this lot is really made of

[manpe 10,861]

1 hour ago, Mana said:

Fuck all of the posters who said/agree this season isn't as bad as 2015/16.

Go fuck yourself perhaps.

[manpe 10,861]

Just now, Mana said:

No fuck you. Like, how dare you say I can't remember what happened in 2015/16. I do remember. You're talking as if we had no good games in 2015/16.

You're talking as if we had no good games in 2017/18. So fuck you.

[Fernando 6,483]

2 minutes ago, Mana said:

Eh, that's the point. Both seasons are almost as bad as each other. I said 'almost' as this season is narrowly beating 2015/16. I would have definitely equalled it if we had lost today.

Can't compare one was horrible from the beginning. So bad by November. There's was a lot of stuff to play for. 

This time we are bad when there's not much to play for. 

Guess everyone checked out for the world cup already. 

[manpe 10,861]

5 minutes ago, Mana said:

Eh, that's the point. Both seasons are almost as bad as each other. I said 'almost' as this season is narrowly beating 2015/16. I would have definitely equalled it if we had lost today.

Nah mate I'm just kidding. You have every right to have that opinion, but in my mind personally 15/16 was far worse. At least we never were 1 point above relegation at any time this season and it was clear we were out of CL by October that season. This season we started dropping from 2nd place to 5th (for now), in 15/16 we had to climb from 17th(!!!!) to 10th... that was just unbelievable for defending champions. For me, those seasons are comparable only in the slightest, 15/16 was an absolute disaster in terms of results, table positions and performances were also much worse.

[manpe 10,861]

2 minutes ago, Mana said:

Just to let you all know, I've calmed down...I said the "fuck you all" in rage because we were 2-0 down (at the time) and were playing like pussies. Chelsea were really knocking me down with the constant bad performances. I apologise.

However I think we have to agree to disagree on the performances this season v. 15/16. Everything else about 15/16 was worse, but the performances I really don't see any difference. If it wasn't for Giroud and his determination to get a goal back, we would have lost today. The same way I've been seeing in 15/16 and parts of this season.

Giroud was allowed to score those goals because we were attacking their box and creating chances. In 15/16 we wouldn't have been able to penetrate in any way even, 0 shots on goal would have been another day in the office.

[manpe 10,861]

4 minutes ago, Mana said:

Point is, we shouldn't be 2-0 down like that. This is Conte's fault (again) for having that back 3.

I'm sure we were creating chances in 15/16...0 shots on goal was not common that season.

And what about this season? What about the City away game?

Look, we can bring shit examples from both seasons and have endless discussions. Let's just appreciate we finally won today.

[the wes 7,212]

Antonio Conte ‘waiting’ to be sacked by Chelsea, says Dennis Wise

http://metro.co.uk/2018/04/14/antonio-conte-waiting-sacked-chelsea-says-former-blues-captain-dennis-wise-7467438/?ito=cbshare

I have to agree with wisey on this one 

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

Say NO to Italian Managers.

 

Let's hope Chelsea never bring in another Italian Manager.

 

 

#AntonioConteOut

 

 

[Tomo 21,733]

On April 14, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Mana said:

Just to let you all know, I've calmed down...I said the "fuck you all" in rage because we were 2-0 down (at the time) and were playing like pussies. Chelsea were really knocking me down with the constant bad performances. I apologise.

However I think we have to agree to disagree on the performances this season v. 15/16. Everything else about 15/16 was worse, but the performances I really don't see any difference. If it wasn't for Giroud and his determination to get a goal back, we would have lost today. The same way I've been seeing in 15/16 and parts of this season.

As average to poor as we have been this season, we are still passing the ball to a relitevely acceptable level and creating a respectable amount of chances, under Jose in 15/16 we couldn't string two passes together and  our only way to create a chance was a Willian set piece or oppo cock up.  

You can maybe make a comparison between this season and the Hiddink half of 15/16, but even our lowest ebb this campaign is like paradise compared to the Jose half, that period was a complete and utter horror story from top to bottom.

[Adnane 1,101]

Do you guys even realize how bad we were in 2016 ? 

Our highest position was 10th, the one where we finished the season. 

We had a goal difference of +6.

We didn't show the slightest of fights against PSG. 

We went out against Stoke early in the COC. 

We went out against Everton in the FA Cup. 

The best we had done in the league was 3 wins in a row. 

Our top 4 chance was basically gone by October. 

This year we were 2nd at some point in January, win tomorrow and we are 5 points short of Tottenham and 7 Liverpool, with a game at home against the latter coming up ( which we might or might not win obviously ). Even if we miss out on Champions League football which is highly likely it will be by a considerably smaller margin than 2016. 

In 2016 we finished 16 points off top 4, and 13 off the first relegated team, we basically were closer to relegation zone than top 4. 

We are on course to finish the season with 75 points if we somehow manage to win all remaining Premier League games, in the last 15 PL seasons, this would have enabled us to play CL football the following year in 80% of the cases.

It's not a guess, it's an actual statistic. 

 

I'm all for giving the players, manager and board stick for this deceiving season guys, but stop rewriting history, nothing we've experienced this year will ever get as low as 2016, that was a total nightmare, terrible. 

[Blue Armour 4,300]

I'd rather stop talking about both seasons altogether, and move on to the next one asap.