The Conte Thread

[milka 3,346]

It's actually frightening how similar the situation is to the defeat at King Power 2 years ago. Mourinho's last game in charge.

[Azpinator 2,325]

6 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

he had Rudiger, Drinkwater, Fabregas and Giroud on the bench and makes the same tactical blunders. Miss me with that bulls***

Those are 3 average players and 1 great player who is past his prime. It's very easy to nitpick regarding Conte's selections but let's face it: Hazard, Kante, Azpilicueta and to a lesser extent Christensen are the only reliable ones.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

1 minute ago, Azpinator said:

Those are 3 average players and 1 great player who is past his prime. It's very easy to nitpick regarding Conte's selections but let's face it: Hazard, Kante, Azpilicueta and to a lesser extent Christensen are the only reliable ones.

Rudiger is better than Cahill. Drinkwater is better than Bakayoko. Fabregas is our only creative midfielder. The false 9 doesn't work. Have you been watching Chelsea this season?

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

2 wins in 10 games. All those clubs except Arsenal will die for a Rudiger, Drinkwater, Fabregas or Giroud. Those trying to relive Conte of the bulk of the blame should be ashamed. His tactical blunders are shocking and he's an incredibly stubborn person.

[The Chels 2,502]

I'll still be surprised if he's sacked tomorrow to be honest. We're still in the top 4, players don't seem to hate him. Mourinho had us in a much worse position and was given a very long stay of execution. 

[Azpinator 2,325]

Just now, MrExcalibur100 said:

Rudiger is better than Cahill. Drinkwater is better than Bakayoko. Fabregas is our only creative midfielder. The false 9 doesn't work. Have you been watching Chelsea this season?

Yes, have you? Because to have the courage to describe the current Fabregas as "creative" is completely inaccurate. 

I've said this before in this thread: Rudiger and Drinkwater wouldn't fix this clusterfuck. You'd still have wasteful players upfront. You'd still have limited-as-fuck wingbacks. You'd still have brain-fart master Luiz at the back.

We're lacking too much quality to blame any coach in charge in my opinion.

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

3 minutes ago, The Chels said:

I'll still be surprised if he's sacked tomorrow to be honest. We're still in the top 4, players don't seem to hate him. Mourinho had us in a much worse position and was given a very long stay of execution. 

yeh now some time has passed and we relax after that performance, i think he will stay

[Tomo 21,733]

24 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Reminds me of Martinez. Not someone we should be going after.

Sarri is the candidate for me long term but only if he is guaranteed players of his choice. We don't need another puppet at this point

Sarri has already gone on record saying he works with what ADL gives him. 

[communicate 2,703]

As much as I think he deserve to stay, I think he is very close of getting sack. I'll be surprised if Conte is our manager next season. 

Two bad losses in a row against mediocre opposition is usually the start of sacking for our team 

[LAM09 6,744]

Sarri has already gone on record saying he works with what ADL gives him. 

Well, they've managed to keep hold of their best players whilst buying smart. That isn't something that can be said about our board in the last 3-4 years. 

 

 

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

16 minutes ago, milka said:

It's actually frightening how similar the situation is to the defeat at King Power 2 years ago. Mourinho's last game in charge.

Same as back then, the players need a massive reality check, dropped levels and consistency from last season has also hurt us. If the players can’t deal with coaches like Mourinho and Conte, decide all of a sudden they don’t support a coach/are disgruntled at training regimes/whatever, they might as well retire (seeing as certain sources are talking about Conte losing the dressing room). Never thought we’d probably lose two managers of that top level calibre in the space of 3 seasons. Results are poor yes. Tactics could be changed yes. Players effort is something that should be there though regardless and it wasn’t against Bournemouth and Watford. Everybody from back to front, Courtois to Hazard.  

 

15 minutes ago, Azpinator said:

Those are 3 average players and 1 great player who is past his prime. It's very easy to nitpick regarding Conte's selections but let's face it: Hazard, Kante, Azpilicueta and to a lesser extent Christensen are the only reliable ones.

Hazard reliable yes but in the last 2 games? When the going gets tough? Fair enough he showed up for 5-10 mins tonight after we brought a striker on and scored a goal but other than that in 180 mins of football he has looked as average and uninterested as anybody else. If he thinks he can decide to show up for 10 mins a match and it’s okay then he’s sadly mistaken, same with any fan who thinks he can just do that and should get away with it. Just wandering about when we don’t have the ball half the time. Players effort should be there, week in week out.  No matter if your the main man or some guy who plays every 5th week.

 

Conte said he made mistakes with picking the first 11 tonight but personally I think he should have threw every single one of them under the bus. Jody Morris’ boys in the u23 or u18 day r whatever would have played 10 times better than whet these guys did tonight. And if they didn’t win they’d of at least given a fuck and put effort in. 

[Azpinator 2,325]

3 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

 

Hazard reliable yes but in the last 2 games? When the going gets tough? Fair enough he showed up for 5-10 mins tonight after we brought a striker on and scored a goal but other than that in 180 mins of football he has looked as average and uninterested as anybody else. If he thinks he can decide to show up for 10 mins a match and it’s okay then he’s sadly mistaken, same with any fan who thinks he can just do that and should get away with it. Just wandering about when we don’t have the ball half the time. Players effort should be there, week in week out.  No matter if your the main man or some guy who plays every 5th week.

He has been playing out of position, he isn't tall enough to perfectly fix our strikers issues. I was talking about individuals in our current squad in general. The ones who we clearly struggle without. 

[El P. 1,354]

12 minutes ago, Azpinator said:

Yes, have you? Because to have the courage to describe the current Fabregas as "creative" is completely inaccurate. 

I've said this before in this thread: Rudiger and Drinkwater wouldn't fix this clusterfuck. You'd still have wasteful players upfront. You'd still have limited-as-fuck wingbacks. You'd still have brain-fart master Luiz at the back.

We're lacking too much quality to blame any coach in charge in my opinion.

Fabregas is shit, let's not fool ourselves. He showed that today too. Some good pass here and there. His close control and dribbling is Bakayokos' level, and add to that him being weak as fuck.

Couldn't agree more with you.

Our players are just not good enough. The ones that played, ones on the bench, all of them. Some tweak might have been made, but that would be minor tweak and ask God if it would help us at all.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

5 minutes ago, Azpinator said:

He has been playing out of position, he isn't tall enough to perfectly fix our strikers issues. I was talking about individuals in our current squad in general. The ones who we clearly struggle without. 

Okay I get you now. Yeah fair enough still think he should get as much flack as anybody (well not as much as Baka Luiz Cahill but the rest yeah) but remains to be seen.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

6 minutes ago, Mana said:

The media is going to talk about Chelsea and Conte all week long now. "What's next for Chelsea Football Club?" "Is Conte on the verge of sacking?" Yadda yadda yadda.

And fecking Klopp gets away with this media attention when he still failed to win anything with Liverpool.

 

To be honest? We don't even deserve to be ahead of Arsenal. 6th place is where we should be, and I'm shocked we are still in the top 4. HOW.

Klopp gets away with it because Liverpool’s expectations are lower than ours and they almost certainly will have been from the start of the season. We won the league, 7 months later possibly sack that manager, sitting 10+ points behind City and maybe not even get CL football depending how it goes, absolute disaster almost 2 years after the last time we did this. Liverpool finished top 4. Which is a huge success for them.

Regardless no point deflecting our short comings at another club.

Our players, management, board... somethings not been right since the summer (well boards not been right for years)  

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

1 minute ago, Mana said:

And fecking Klopp gets away with this media attention when he still failed to win anything with Liverpool.

You gives a fuck about him ?. We have just lost to the might of Bournemouth and Watford and we look shambolic forget about other teams and their success or lack of it.

[Tomo 21,733]

7 minutes ago, Mana said:

The media is going to talk about Chelsea and Conte all week long now. "What's next for Chelsea Football Club?" "Is Conte on the verge of sacking?" Yadda yadda yadda.

And fecking Klopp gets away with this media attention when he still failed to win anything with Liverpool.

 

To be honest? We don't even deserve to be ahead of Arsenal. 6th place is where we should be, and I'm shocked we are still in the top 4. HOW.

Because Klopp is giving no indications he's unhappy, quite the opposite in fact. If he started taking repeated shots at Fenway Sports group, refused to sign an extension, had previous with rage quitting and look a ghost off his former self, he would attract those type of headlines too.

[blues.bridge 343]

46 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

Fully agree. The team is just so negative and it's been clear all season that Hazard at F9 just doesn't work. Why not just start a more positive team when we're conceding and leaking goals with such a defensive set up anyway? Conte's being a crazy coward.

Switch it up or something Conte. Would love seeing something like this in the near future but it just won't happen:

Courtois
Azpilicueta Christensen Rüdiger Emerson
Kanté 
Barkley Willian
Hazard Morata Hudson-Odoi

Not an amazing team obviously but it's refreshing, it's something different. Tired of this regurgitated nonsense man.

 

Change ampadu with  Willy and we are ok!