The Mourinho Thread

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

An ex-TalkChelsea member - the only place to be.

Ok cheers mate TOP TB sounds like a very serious illness.

[Fulham Broadway 17,018]

Ok can someone please put me out of my misery (Something an Arsenal fan says everyday) what is TOPTB?.

He was BlueDaze

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

He was BlueDaze

Oh that prick ha ha. Real sanctimonious and overbearing the little i read of his posts. But what i couldn't get over was how someone i would guess in his mid to late twenties could be so pompous.

[xPetrCechx 13,565]

Remind me please what TOPTB said?

[Pizy 18,538]

If we have another truly awful weekend (we lose and City & United win) I wonder how itchy Roman's trigger finger will feel. Looking at the top of the table and seeing us 10+ points behind TWO clubs who we finished miles ahead of just a couple of months ago will have him livid and nervous I would think.

Guess we'll find out pretty soon if he really has changed.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

His personality? So last year while we were cruising our way to the title, was his personality such an issue then? Has it been an issue in the build to success he's had whereever he's gone?

Yeah he's got his flaws and I'm sure this season he'd acknowledge his errors, the Eva situation for one. But by nowhere does that make him a disgrace to this club. We've had far worse characters done a lot more wrong in this place than Mourinho has.

First we've got his career discredited, now we're having his reputation analyzed. It's like the 2014-15 season never happened

Tbh his personality and attitude was always an issue. The only reason he got no stick is because we were winning. But despite Im big Mou, I see he has issues with his personality. His face nowdays when we are losing says it all. He is bad loser simple as that. Arrogant. Sometimes childlish. Looking for exuses everywhere but maybe he does that for team.

I like him because he is one funny fucker tho. And he was always great tactician and knew how to mentaly boost players. Sadly he doesnt know that this year but I doubt he lost it. Its just temporary form. Then again like I said last season when we won title to Skipper, he isnt the man to stay here for long time. Because of his personality.

But seriously if people think Mou has no weaknesses and they dont see his personality at least bit questionable, I dunno. Maybe blind or sth. Remember his poke in eye on Tito against barca? That is the picture perfect of Mourinho when he is losing. He is great winner but bad loser. Nothing in between.

I understand people love Mou and I do to for all he done for us, but people must be blind if they dont see he is controversal, childlish and aroggant man when things dont go his way.

[Laylabelle 9,422]

If we have another truly awful weekend (we lose and City & United win) I wonder how itchy Roman's trigger finger will feel. Looking at the top of the table and seeing us 10+ points behind TWO clubs who we finished miles ahead of just a couple of months ago will have him livid and nervous I would think.

Guess we'll find out pretty soon if he really has changed.

Even if Man U lose still be a Arsenal win...urgh one win and we fly up the table a bit...just dont seem capeable of doing that

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

If we lose today I hope NO ONE come and defend him anymore because there is just no reason to. If we lose today I think we will follow Dortmund last season and MU 2013-14, probably end the season finishing like 6th or 7th because even once we get into 'form' in mid Jan it would already be too late.

Basically it comes down to whether we are prepared to part way with Jose to secure a CL spot or stay loyal to him and probably missing the CL spot this season, we will also probably finish in our worst position for more than a decade at this rate.

[Stats 7,073]

The Only Place To Be ... a guy who used to comment on this forum. She had a controversial stance on foreign Chelsea fan's... was kind of Chelsea's own EDL, some would say

Guy or girl? I am sure TOPTB was a male. He was controversial but he was an excellent contributor of the forum tbh.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Ok cheers mate TOP TB sounds like a very serious illness.

Oh, he was!

[Tomo 21,741]

Absolutely spot on.

The club should always be more important than the manager, always, without any exceptions. The best a manager could do is make a case for being the most important and most significant aspect of aa football club and the only manager that deserves such unreserved huge praise/accolade is Alex Ferguson. What he achieved at united is unparralled and will never be replicated in football again.

I laugh whenever Jose fan boys try to portray him as a god and make him look like the best thing that's ever happened to Chelsea when he's no where near roman abramovich. The man that made it all happen.

You made a very important point also about our success in the roman years being inspite of mourinho as it was inevitable.

Man city have won two of the last 4 EPL title and are on their way to making it 3 in 5. This is despite the lack of, what most would class, as a world class manager in charge.

Not the fan boy route again, I'm sorry but it really winds me up when people go down that route, are people who defend Terry now a fanboy? Or anyone who defended Drogba in the last two seasons pre Barca and Bayern.

In football fans build emotional connections with players and managers, now if you think Mourinho is not the right man to take us forward and/or don't have the same connection with him that's fine, that is your prerogative, but ultimately there will be fans that do, and because of the massive impact he has made especially in his first spell he will get some leeway with a lot of supporters where others won't, which is why I always cringe whenever the "If this was Benitez" line is used.

Look at Liverpool in Kennys second coming, I was on a all fans footy forum at the time and some Liverpool fans thought Kenny should go because he wasn't in touch with the modern times and there were others who couldn't let go, but the people in the former group always remained respectful of the fact that some will have that emotional connection to a man who was a prominent figure when Liverpool were top dogs (like Jose here), I mean if Liverpool fans can manage that, why cant we (in general)?

[Fernando 6,507]

Watching city play gets me even more mad with Mourinho.

We had a lot of flair and youth when he came, now it's all but gone.

Don't want this guy anymore. Let him finish the season and then send him off like real Madrid did.

Give us a manager that can work with attacking talents and bring youth in.

[Barbara 15,149]

Absolutely spot on.

The club should always be more important than the manager, always, without any exceptions. The best a manager could do is make a case for being the most important and most significant aspect of aa football club and the only manager that deserves such unreserved huge praise/accolade is Alex Ferguson. What he achieved at united is unparralled and will never be replicated in football again.

I laugh whenever Jose fan boys try to portray him as a god and make him look like the best thing that's ever happened to Chelsea when he's no where near roman abramovich. The man that made it all happen.

You made a very important point also about our success in the roman years being inspite of mourinho as it was inevitable.

Man city have won two of the last 4 EPL title and are on their way to making it 3 in 5. This is despite the lack of, what most would class, as a world class manager in charge.

Yours and Henrique's logic is flawed - and you both know it, especially when I lost count of how many times both of you said we only won the league last year because it's been very poor the last few years. Still, being as poor as you think it is, it took us 5 years and a handful managers to win a title. If managers don't matter, and money wins things, how come with so many rich clubs such as us, City and United this league is poor?

So you say the league is weak, but also say that winning was inevitable, still in a weak league we failed to win the title in 5 years. So I suppose, the final verdict is that the league is so weak, that money wins titles - as our rivals fans have been saying all years - except we suck a lot because even with a lot of money and managers we won virtually nothing domestically in the last five years. Clearly the problem isn't Mourinho then, going by this logic.

[xPetrCechx 13,565]

His decision to play with iva every time goona cost him his job imo.

[didierforever 7,349]

His decision to play with iva every time gooma cost him his job imo.

sooner the better.

[King11Didier 916]

What a clown

[MefiX19 1,092]

sooner the better.

Maybe after the international break.

[Despiadado.Maleante 1,046]

I passionately hate this cunt now. Hope he fail wherever he goes after he gets sacked here.