The Mourinho Thread

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  On 23/01/2015 at 22:32, Barbara said:

1) I think you didn't read the news about what Tito's wife said about her late husband's 'closest friend' (didn't even talk to Pep); 2) a team that good wouldn't be spanked in two separate legs because of that. 3) There's no comparison between the football that Bayern played and Pep's. Dortmund weakened a lot, there's no strong team in Germany to compare to them. Of course, changes were expected, but he destroyed the team. It doesn't matter what they're winning, but how they went from amazing football to a whole mess in like what? 5 months?

As I said, the excuses for the grass in the neighbor's pile up.

All that said... I'm really fed up with José comments about the support. He should shut the heck up and get the team to continue to produce results. He has no business talking anything - except praise - about support. I'm really disappointed by him this term. Stubborn, late reactions, ultra pragmatic at times and talking shit about those who are way bigger than he'd ever be.

He's really begging us to start to wonder. I'm not supporting 'sack Mourinho', but I'm really not that supportive of him as I used to be, he's saying and doing a lot of BS imo - which I normally have a lot of patience with, but the support thing is impossible to ignore.

"I think you didn't read the news about what Tito's wife said about her late husband's 'closest friend' (didn't even talk to Pep)"

I dont give a single damn about what his wife said to the media, if he is ill, Pep is also ill, time doesnt erase memories and feelings, no matter the situation, plus, it would increase Pep's inability to work that time and therefore to be ready for a Semi Final.This is such a poor argument.

" a team that good wouldn't be spanked in two separate legs because of that"

The first leg was dominated by the Germans, Muller should've scored, actually, they played very well against the toughest of the opposition with only one season under the belt of someone who changed a lot in their team.Plus, the second leg was lost when Ramos scored, the downfall was total and shit happens in football, if you judge a coach in a match that he lost 4-0 against Madrid, then Mourinho is probably inferior to Guardiola as he lost 5-0 + a Champions League semi final to him.Thats nonsense.

"Of course, changes were expected, but he destroyed the team. It doesn't matter what they're winning, but how they went from amazing football to a whole mess in like what? 5 months?"

It doesn't matter what they're winning ? Actually it matters a lot, you just want to ignore it.A whole mess is a very big statement, do you even watch Bayern ? at least the 7-1 demolishion away against a top Roma team is a perfect example to watch the mess.They are probably the most stylish team in Europe, easily winning their matches in BL, defending very well, and going forward with purpose, tactically they evolved a lot this summer, more ready to cope with counter-attacking teams, but I dont really need to tell you the obvious, stats, games and trophies talk.And amazing is relative, it isnt actually an argument.

"He's really begging us to start to wonder. I'm not supporting 'sack Mourinho', but I'm really not that supportive of him as I used to be, he's saying and doing a lot of BS imo - which I normally have a lot of patience with, but the support thing is impossible to ignore."

Trophies will change your mind, that's what count.

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  On 23/01/2015 at 23:07, ZaynCFC said:

Mou haters can die!

Next time coming back at least change your nationality mate, making it painfully obvious who you are haha

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We are on the verge of great things, Mourinho leaving would be a disaster and a kick back to the stone age. How long have I waited for someone to rejuvenate us.

[The Chels 2,502]

  On 23/01/2015 at 23:01, BlueLyon said:

And Mou did just that. Everyone is talking bout his comments on fans and not how shit we played.

This argument is thrown about a lot. Assuming it is true why does Jose hate criticism so much that he'll do anything to deflect attention including putting the entire blame on one of the players (Hazard v Atletico, Schurrle v City) or even the fans?

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  On 23/01/2015 at 23:07, ZaynCFC said:

Mou haters can die!

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  On 23/01/2015 at 23:15, The Chels said:

This argument is thrown about a lot. Assuming it is true why does Jose hate criticism so much that he'll do anything to deflect attention including putting the entire blame on one of the players (Hazard v Atletico, Schurrle v City) or even the fans?

Worked well for quite sometime but now it is kind of a broken record...fans still love it though because it is Mourinho playing some 'mind game' to them. I personally don't care what he says, all I want for him is to change his tactic and mentality a bit away from home. That is the real flaw I still see in him and after 10 years at top level it still hasn't been addressed. All the other stuff like media...etc are pretty much ignorable.

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  On 23/01/2015 at 23:11, MrBlueGuy said:

Next time coming back at least change your nationality mate, making it painfully obvious who you are haha

Who is he?

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  On 23/01/2015 at 23:17, The Chels said:

Who is he?

'Jose...' something like that, the German guy that used to swear at everyone on here who comments anything remotely negative toward Jose. Probably got banned so now he doesn't directly do it anymore, but still keeps that tone.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Who wants to sack him?

He just needs to win a trophy, get this monkey off his back and start being a little more gung-ho

He's reverted to over cautious - if we can win a trophy this year, I'm sure the old Mou will bounce back

[Fernando 6,534]

  On 23/01/2015 at 22:34, GodZola said:

You simply cannot question the magnificent job José has done in the last 18 months, we went from double winners to an inconsistent team struggling to make the top 4, now he has turned us into title contenders under a stringent financial policy, yes he has spent money but he has bought some quality with it whilst balancing the book - if this was Arsenal there would be a media love fest, yet cus its us who have spent large almost a decade then it gets largely over looked?!

However, fans have every right to question his recent comments, my Chelsea friends and I actually commented during the game that our fans were fantastic against Liverpool which they always are away from home, José choice of words were quite frankly embarrassing and ignorant to our 4,500 fans who were a credit to our club.

Its obvious that he is trying to stoke up the fire with our home fans but ffs man, praise your own away fans first then nibble at the prawn sandwich eaters to back the team, think there was also a deflection tactic used to take the pressure away from him and the players cus that performance was shite!

Yeah I said before that l I didn't heard much from the supposed "famous Anfield atmosphere" till they scored a goal.

It was a ghost town almost all night. Our away supporters was class!

As per to talk of mourinho sacking it's straight ludicrous.

The man is doing a good job at the present time.

But there's some red flags being raised as to weather he can do a Fergie.

I think the Ferguson situation was an anomaly that is hard to come by.

So while I don't agree with the sack talks I also can't agree of thinking long term with mourinho.

I will honestly be happy if we just get 5 to 6 years with him.

5 years in today's modern fútbol is a lot.

[ZaynCFC 27]

Funny to see that it's always the same people crawling out of their caves when we lose or draw or they have the opportunity to criticize Mourinho.

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  On 23/01/2015 at 19:35, Fernando said:

Like kdb?

The short answer is that I think the club were right to accept Wolfsburg's offer for Kevin. The long answer is: -

I doubt there are many, if any, bigger KDB fans around here than me. I watched him play half a dozen times for Genk after we signed him and liked what I saw. Loved the way that it was all about the pass with him. He has other strings to his bow, such as the better-than-Beckham crosses he was delivering, but his game was constructed around power running to win space/time then exploiting it to play an effective and threatening pass. I especially loved the way he would spot decisive passes in situations where many CFC players would just lash boringly, frustratingly, wastefully at goal.

I did take note however of comments from KRC fans that those five months were his best ever and that he had never looked so consistently good before. Nothing unusual there I thought; just what you'd expect from a young player with a developing career. I became a big fan. So big a fan indeed, that I then watched him play twenty plus times for Bremen (no exaggeration) as well as in every single appearance for Belgium between the time he joined and the time he left. What did I learn from all that coverage? Some positive things, particularly from the internationals, but overall I wasn't that happy with what I saw.

I know KDB received rave reviews for his time with Werder but in the games I watched, there were more performances which disappointed me than there were which encouraged me. Many times I felt sure he would be dropped but he never was. The general reaction to his German loan seemed to me to be filtered through honeymoon eyes. Kevin got full credit for everything he did well, but escaped criticism for the many things he did not do well. By the time he came back for the first pre-season of JM II, I was cautioning people to tone down their expectations.

Kevin started two of our first three games but clearly failed to show Jose enough to earn further chances. Around the same time he played in a World Cup qualifier against Wales in which he gave up tracking Aaron Ramsey halfway through a run. Ramsey continued into the box, collected the ball and scored. That would never have happened if KDB had stayed with him. I remember thinking, "I hope Jose didn't see that, he won't be happy." It was all downhill for Kevin after that as far as Jose was concerned and I can't say I'm surprised.

I still believe that there's a great player in there somewhere but to get time to develop your career here, you have to show enough on game day, or in training, to encourage the coach to believe that it's worth giving you extra chances. Zouma is doing that and his star is rising at Stamford Bridge but Kevin did not. I hope his star will rise somewhere else.

Here are some examples of the kind of stuff Kevin was doing when I fell in love with his game. Sadly this is not the player I watched at Bremen.

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Jose at it again. No love lost between him and Carlo it seems.

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  On 22/01/2015 at 20:24, ZaynCFC said:

Our home support is shit. I would be angry like Mourinho,too if I had experienced the loud Tifosi of Inter and then I come to London and I only hear the thousands of grannys at the stands coughing and some tourists taking some pictures. Chelsea fans at home are pure S-H-I-T.

Go to Stamford Bridge and create some atmosphere then

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  On 24/01/2015 at 02:47, Myself said:

Go to Stamford Bridge and create some atmosphere then

If i could i would like this post 3 times. 2 times for the post and 1 time for the signature

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  On 24/01/2015 at 02:47, Myself said:

Go to Stamford Bridge and create some atmosphere then

If you were able to read properly, you would have read what happened when I tried. Oh dear God, why didn't you divide intelligence equally to every human?

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I'm pretty sure he wasn't even saying that our support was crap, just that it would be even better at the Bridge considering the numbers difference.

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  On 24/01/2015 at 06:03, ZaynCFC said:

If you were able to read properly, you would have read what happened when I tried. Oh dear God, why didn't you divide intelligence equally to every human?

I did read it. You either sat with a family that had kids or sat in the East Stand (which isn't good in terms of atmosphere)