The Mourinho Thread

[Clevemayer 764]

perfectly put. well said.

thanks mate

[Clevemayer 764]

Its funny how great our ex managers are when they go.

With Carlo it's like 10-11 and the stagnant, sterile, borderline comatose footy never happened. Don't get me wrong the double season was amazing, but the lack of blame Carlo gets for 10-11 is hilarious. That still to this day is the only season i was glad ended, infact it stripped a lot of my enthusiasm for the new season, usually im buzzing for the new campaign but that season drained me.

Rafa goes, and all off a sudden we played great/good football under him (it's bad enough the scousers have that fantasy, our own fans following suit beggars belief).

I wonder if the same people thought the same in 10-11 and when we lost at home to QPR!!!!!!

Not much to add to this!

After Butch was gone, all went down the toilet for Carlo. I loved his cool nonchalant way to talk and to stand next to the byline but I couldn't any more of his "Ai ehm eppieh wisse skuadeh" at one point. He isn't that great a manager, he didn't even change Real, and I can't belive ppl. dont see this. This was pure Mourinho tactics against bayern, everyone as blind as a mole could see that. Defend and counterattack. Carlo is good for a team that is already perfectly set up but had a bust up with somebody. He comes in and just want everyone to feel good and "bie eppieh". He is no genius at all.

Mou is a different class, he is ready to fight with anybody for his belief of the game. And he wants everybody to be behind the team.

[Pizy 18,877]

Not much to add to this!

After Butch was gone, all went down the toilet for Carlo. I loved his cool nonchalant way to talk and to stand next to the byline but I couldn't any more of his "Ai ehm eppieh wisse skuadeh" at one point. He isn't that great a manager, he didn't even change Real, and I can't belive ppl. dont see this. This was pure Mourinho tactics against bayern, everyone as blind as a mole could see that. Defend and counterattack. Carlo is good for a team that is already perfectly set up but had a bust up with somebody. He comes in and just want everyone to feel good and "bie eppieh". He is no genius at all.

Mou is a different class, he is ready to fight with anybody for his belief of the game. And he wants everybody to be behind the team.

You trying to type in his accent makes him sound like he's got Down Syndrome.

[Tomo 21,751]

I think the main gripe for me is that people never defended the managers back then like they do now for Mourinho.

That Mourinho need "his type of players" to do any good.

Well why the hell didn't we say that for the past managers? That Carlo needed "his type of players" to be successful.

It all boils down to what AVB said, I'm good because I have a good team. As soon as I have a bad team I will be the shit one.

Now granted you need a little tactical nuance and man management skills to succeed in this business but having the right type of players is important!

So my question is, if we need a manager to have "his type of players" to do good, then why Roman and the board have one philosophy and Mourinho has another?

Cause clearly players like Mata, and KDB never suited his style. But to the board did.

Something just doesn't add up.

The board made the signing's before he got here, i think the RDM full time spell showed Roman that pretty football isn't pretty at all if the results don't follow, hench why Rafa was brought in, to get us CL footy and maybe a cup, object achieved but it weren't pretty.

Regarding Carlo, a lot of people here stuck up for him and often used the 'you lack loyalty' jibe to people that wanted him out. I wanted him to get another season to rectify it, but i do put a fair portion of the blame for that season on him, which is why it annoys me when i keep reading things implying that his tenure was all roses and sexy football, it wasn't.

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

Spoiled Brats FC

Next season will be a good one, it doesn't take long for Jose to get it right. The young players have some experience in losing a title race and CL semi final, it will only make them stringer and more determined

Lets be honest, most of us thought City would stroll the league this season.

We have been close to winning the league and been in the CL semi final, I didn't expect more than this.

Next season I expect us to win the league and at least reach the Semi finals again

[Fernando 6,585]

The board made the signing's before he got here, i think the RDM full time spell showed Roman that pretty football isn't pretty at all if the results don't follow, hench why Rafa was brought in, to get us CL footy and maybe a cup, object achieved but it weren't pretty.

Regarding Carlo, a lot of people here stuck up for him and often used the 'you lack loyalty' jibe to people that wanted him out. I wanted him to get another season to rectify it, but i do put a fair portion of the blame for that season on him, which is why it annoys me when i keep reading things implying that his tenure was all roses and sexy football, it wasn't.

I think this summer we shall see if this is true, that Roman has indeed changed his mind about sexy Fútbol.

Cause if Mourinho is bitching and moaning about the players we have in the second season then it has not changed.

Next season without a doubt is going to be pivotal for this project.

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

09-10 yes, but you can't seriously be suggesting what he served up in 10-11 was anything close to good football, surely?. It was static, lethargic and devoid of anything positive, worse than anything we saw under Mou, Benitez, Scolari or AVB.

That was the board's fault for letting Ballack, Deco, Calvarlo and a few others go without replacing them, then leaving an ageing squad unbalanced with youth team players then to top it all of sign Torres for 50 million, someone we clearly didnt need at the time(by the way Ancelloti wanted Aguero) so I blame the board for 10-11 not carlo

[Stats 7,142]

I really don't get the purpose of all this strange posts.

- Mou said the team is in transition

- Mou admitted he wont sucrifice wnning for the sake of playing beautyfull football, anyone of you wanting this should support Peps team, they really should

- Mou said we wont be champions and probably wont win anything but he will try all to do so

- Mou tells hazard to shut up and get his work done on the pitch for the team

- Mou defends his players as long as they stand behind him

- Mou limited Ashs, Lamps time on the pitch

We overachieved in this season, and this wasn't good for some of our fans, they had too high expectations. Mou stood to his words and had always a plan. Football is a game and so isn't predictable, you only can give your best to win, sometimes its enough sometimes not... get used to it...

I agree with some of the stuff you said here but to say we "overachieved" is stretching it. Have we had a decent season and improved from last season? Of course but you can't say we overachieved when we are likely to finish 3rd whereas most people this season would of assumed it would have been us and City battling it out for first and second place. UCL, we got to the semis, definitely an improvement but could we have got to the final? Yes, but unfortunately not but we certainly done the best out of all the British teams. FA Cup got knocked out and same with Carling cup.

So we are likely to end the season trophyless. No way am I saying we overachieved. I don't settle of Arsenal's mentality of 'finishing top 4 as a decent season'. I expect more but on the other hand while his football may piss people off we now have (hopefully) a stable manager for the next 5+ years who will improve the team as the years go on and like yourself and Mourinho said this is a transition season and that is why I will not say we underachieved as well but if have had a decent/solid season.

Next season onwards I am sure we will go from strength to strength and hopefully regain our league title.

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

Mourinho fan boys!!!!?

Go fuck yourself with your childish 'fan boy' sayings and listen up meat head, you're saying the same shit that he said!

You have just proven my point right there, mourinho fan boys only see positive when it comes to him never negative even if he blew the league with 4 games to go

[Tomo 21,751]

That was the board's fault for letting Ballack, Deco, Calvarlo and a few others go without replacing them, then leaving an ageing squad unbalanced with youth team players then to top it all of sign Torres for 50 million, someone we clearly didnt need at the time(by the way Ancelloti wanted Aguero) so I blame the board for 10-11 not carlo

Wilkins said Carlo wanted Torres and we nearly got him after the WC before he signed a new Liverpool contract.

The board didn't help matters, but it's laughable how Carlo escapes blame for that season, sterile tactics, kept reapeating the same thing over and over, naming line up's in press conferences, getting tactically outsmarted by Kenny Dalglish of all people.

[His Majesty 43]

27/36 against the top teams: thanks to Mourinho

Shit results against the lower tier games: also the responsibility of Mourinho although a striker would help, still, blaming it on the squad is a bit cheap, we should have done way more with those games

So all in all we had a decent season. Hopefully the foundations for next season are there and with a few signings (honestly I don't want to see 5-6 new players like this year, I'm positive this squad can deliver), we can go for the title.

[didierforever 7,349]

You know, rather than bicker or going back and forth with the discussion, why not just agree to disagree and be friendly with one another?

Can't be that hard. Even cats can do it..

dude!!! wtf is it with u and cats!!!??? do u have a cat-fetich??!!

[Jase 43,479]

dude!!! wtf is it with u and cats!!!??? do u have a cat-fetich??!!

First, I love cats. They are just so cute!

Secondly, I was just trying to diffuse the situation, if possible, since things have gone rather 'wild' in here after last week. So, yeah..

[Clevemayer 764]

I agree with some of the stuff you said here but to say we "overachieved" is stretching it. Have we had a decent season and improved from last season? Of course but you can't say we overachieved when we are likely to finish 3rd whereas most people this season would of assumed it would have been us and City battling it out for first and second place. UCL, we got to the semis, definitely an improvement but could we have got to the final? Yes, but unfortunately not but we certainly done the best out of all the British teams. FA Cup got knocked out and same with Carling cup.

So we are likely to end the season trophyless. No way am I saying we overachieved. I don't settle of Arsenal's mentality of 'finishing top 4 as a decent season'. I expect more but on the other hand while his football may piss people off we now have (hopefully) a stable manager for the next 5+ years who will improve the team as the years go on and like yourself and Mourinho said this is a transition season and that is why I will not say we underachieved as well but if have had a decent/solid season.

Next season onwards I am sure we will go from strength to strength and hopefully regain our league title.

It's not important if you agree with me or not, the important point is you understand that this season we didn't fight for the title, because we simply couldn't. I say we overachived and it has gotten ppl to think in a wrong way about our possibilities. We fought with city for the title, there are mere 2 pts seperateing us from Liverpool and this is because they had an unexpectedly high flying season so far. So I don't know where this argument from you is directed at. It makes no sense to me.

We overachieved for me because we played some very nice football and did so pretty much immediatly. We fought for the two biggest trophies right till the end against 4 very good teams which all had as good players or better ones than we have. Hate'em or not Tottenham, Everton, Man City, Chelsea and even Arsenal and Looserpool had very good and balanced squads (even though arsenal fuck'ed it up like always). Liverpool had a good decent run helped by the fact they didn't play CL let them fly high.

Further you saying I have Arse( a )nal standards because I'm fine with a top three finish in a tight seasen, where we've played with literally no striker and a CM that didn't click at all plus the team was supposed to change the philosophy to a more "attractive" style is ridiciulus to say the least. It's ppl like you that make a change in a shape and a overhaul in tactics impossible because you demand success and you will call for the head of the coach after a maximum two seasons (because you want a "longtime soloution" you will give him two seasons) and you wont accept a mid table finishing. I on the other hand don't give a f*** und will accept any finish as long as ppl give they're all. We could be full of Cahills in the squad as long as they fight till the end. But I can't live with any individual egomaniacs demanding all should be they're way. I will even accept five straight seasons without CL if the club would bring in better players with promise. We've been lucky we got so many young players mixed with the old dogs in the squad. It nearly was too late and maybe was one or two seasons too late to accept the old guard wont carry us anymore but we realised it soon enough.

We have a very nice youthful squad which lacks certain qualitys and the seniormembers wanted to do it but couldn't (despite Terry). Lamps didn't have the legs and Ash was dropped for certain reasons.

Very good seasons, achieved challenges and nearly went much further then expected... thats my point

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Like it or not, the first season was a success. We're in a great position to evolve and get further. Yes the UCL Semi and defeats to Palace, Villa and Sunderland hurt, especially Sunderland and Atletico but the players will learn from that. We know what we need and we know what to do. It's all about the summer now and i reckon the club have already secured deals and earmarked who they want anyway.02

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Anyone calling for Mourinho's head are mad. Our record against the top 7 has been phenomenal. Next season will be slightly transitional but better.Tthe year after we could win the lot.02

I almost lost hope for this thread. Thank you for putting some light during these dark days