bushman 2,043 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I am still confused by Jose´s constant negative approach to Chelsea´s winning the PL. Even today, he says, Chelsea has no chance to win the PL, why?What about if he were to change his talks & say, just maybe Liverpool & Citeh may drop points & my team wins the remaining two games? Bingo Jose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Some people were at his feet sunday and look now...The fact is our team miss some key thing to be complete (a better midfield, a striker, a GK who command his area)... Fuck it, there's always next year, Bring on the Quadruple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 People are forgetting the type of players Atletico have in midfield, they play with grit, determination, but above all they are great on the ball. Our midfield struggle to pass the ball forward and when the opposition press they seem to panic... If we had Matic-Modric in midfield we'll be able to keep the ball so much better. In this 'football manger era' people always want to talk tactics, i'm sorry but it also comes down to personnel, i would love to see Pep try and make Luiz-Ramires keep possession in tight areas. There's a reason why one of his first signings for Bayern was Thiago... darrus and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 No one should complain about Jose´s first season now. The team has done much better than expected.If Jose were to shut his mouth, it could be even better for next season.Constant provocations by him, telling the media how shitty Chelsea´s strikers are is not helping anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Annoying how the media and football fans (most of them anyway) are having a field day right now. They just love to see Mourinho and Chelsea lose. But he'll probably have his opportunity next season to shut them up with a trophy. robdog and darrus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,865 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Annoying how the media and football fans (most of them anyway) are having a field day right now. They just love to see Mourinho and Chelsea lose. But he'll probably have his opportunity next season to shut them up with a trophy.Most of them sucking off Simeone and the same ones who called him a cunt over the Beckham thing years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Most of them sucking off Simeone and the same ones who called him a cunt over the Beckham thing years ago.Yeah it's because he's new and shiny. 'The Special (Sime)One' I read somewhere. If he manages to stay succesful, he'll also have his fair share of haters within a few years.I do wish him luck though, I doubt Atletico will get a chance like this any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,865 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Yeah it's because he's new and shiny. 'The Special (Sime)One' I read somewhere. If he manages to stay succesful, he'll also have his fair share of haters within a few years.I do wish him luck though, I doubt Atletico will get a chance like this any time soon.Simeone has been brilliant, it's just the double standards that go with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Well one thing to consider for Mourinho. Simeone has assembled a great team with less then 50 million. So if Simeone can find value in the market, Mourinho should too this summer. Don't want to hear come next season we didn't had enough funds. That's no excuse if coaches like Klopp and Simeone are building winning teams with far less budget. So find your men, bring them this summer and let's go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,100 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Well one thing to consider for Mourinho. Simeone has assembled a great team with less then 50 million. So if Simeone can find value in the market, Mourinho should too this summer. Don't want to hear come next season we didn't had enough funds. That's no excuse if coaches like Klopp and Simeone are building winning teams with far less budget. So find your men, bring them this summer and let's go. I agree with what you have said, but the teams you have mentioned have built their current teams over the last few seasons. Mourinho is trying to build a team for instant success. That is the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted May 1, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 1, 2014 better fans than some here I love this man and I think that while he's a bit too pragmatic at times, I fully trust him to turn things around.With a second season under his belt, knowing exactly which kind of players he has and the ones he needs, we'll do much better. And doing much better definitely improves our football, adds options, but if with all the clear issues we had - tactically and technically - we're in the race for the EPL title til the end and we reached UCL semifinals, what you expect to happen next?I have good expectations. I think next season we'll be a few steps ahead in the evolution of this team. Look what he did with Real Madrid in his second season there. I expect more of the same here, but he will never have the dressing room issues he had there here because the only territorial players in the team that have some power simply LOVE Mourinho because he's an integral part of their success, they're grateful and graceful. We won't have that ridiculous power game here and I think there's only one way to go with Mou staying here for a few seasons: up, up and up. kellzfresh, The only place to be, darrus and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 better fans than some here Speaking of that gesture, have you seen this? It's funny. Barbara, manpe and Milan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Mou has some great individual players on this team, can add to that in the summer. What i want to see next season is that we need to play like a big side when we actually do play good sides. I believe that the best way to play football and the most entertaining football is when a side plays without fear and are proactive. For me what will be most telling about Mou plans, is what he does with our fbs. I know most of my posts about our fbs but i think it is a big obstacle from a being proactive side. For me what being proactive means is making the other team adjust to your style. The way to do that is a team that can attack and defend as a unit. For me the biggest Barca accomplishment is how they made everyone react to their style and everyone played like a small side. Barca played their style with possession, but you can do it other way like Jupps Bayern or klopp Dortmund. Bayern in 2013 was the monster everyone was hoping for years to face Barca, they didn't react to Barca they played how they always played. The key is attacking and defending as a unit.Anyway back to our FBs, we need much more from fullbacks going forward. Ivanovic is just too limited going forward, he doesn't scare anyone going forward except in set pieces obviously. On the left is the same Azpi is the same, Azpi going back to his right side will fix the issue on the right. On the left we need a LB that is comfortable going forward, the way the game is played i will always prefer a great attacking fb then a great defensive one. Let me use Marcelo as an example, who is great going forward and but very suspect at the back. I have watched latterly so much of Real Madrid to know that he does not get tested, because the opposition is not trying to exploit him because they are sitting back worried about CR7 and Marcelo going forward. Marcelo was so much missed last season, because his contribution is truly underrated. His presence allows CR7 to get 1-1 against opposition. If Madrid are willing to sell him i would take him in a heartbeat btw, you wouldn't see Hazard being surrounded by multiple players. Fortunately this summer there are numerous great LBs we can get, i would also personally would keep PVA and his ability going forward is why i always rated him higher then Bertrand. Having fbs that can go forward allows you to achieve mass and allows you to overwhelm your opponent. We conceded the lowest amount of goals this season, so Azpi and Iva is a success in some form. For me it would be very telling how we play next season, lets see if Mou changes it up in the summer. FabHazard, kellzfresh, The Skipper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,754 Posted May 1, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 1, 2014 What i find funny is this fantasy we played free flowing sexy football under Rafa, did you not see our performance at The Ethiad under him? if that wasn't parking the bus then nothing we have done this season is either. The only place to be, Shane, didierforever and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 What i find funny is this fantasy we played free flowing sexy football under Rafa, did you not see our performance at The Ethiad under him? if that wasn't parking the bus then nothing we have done this season is either.We didn't score in his first three games.That period with Rafa was the first time in my life I didn't give a fuck about us. Didn't care much for the Europa League run, and always knew we'd get top 4. Any real fan would not find anything positive about that. Jose is back now and we're challenging for all honours. Better team won last night, Not Jose's fault, They are just a top top side and we aren't yet.Roll on the last 2 games and Roll on next season, Can't wait to see who Jose brings in in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 What i find funny is this fantasy we played free flowing sexy football under Rafa, did you not see our performance at The Ethiad under him? if that wasn't parking the bus then nothing we have done this season is either.The best we played was under RDM, altough we was exposed at the back. It was a pity they sack him so early.I'm never in favor of sacking manager so soon. There's a couple that should have never happened. After Mourinho left, Avram was just a temp. Okay he did his job and left. No problem there. Scolari....worst appointment ever under Roman. Did great with Hiddink, wish had he stayed but didn't so move on. Carlo was dead on the money. A good manager that brought nice balance to our team. The whole second season was a disaster that came after letting go a lot of players and having a thin squad with a lot of young players.....sounds similar to this season, with a couple of exception. Firing him after one good and one bad season was just ludicrous. And more ludicrous was spending money to get AVB. Second worst mistake in the Roman era. After that RDM should have continue but Roman is something. Benitez came in as temp and did good. But in all of this, the craziness of sacking manager has made our club really unstable. I'm glad that Mourinho would continue a second season. As for a manager it's hard to build a team in less then one season. Usually takes 2 to 3 seasons. If in those 2 to 3 season there is really no progress then you move on. You did everything you could to back the manager. Tomo and Shane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I'm not sure if you were unaware about this before last night's game, or if it's just a dig at Mourinho.Simeone has done a fantastic job in his two and a half years at Atletico - in that same time frame we've had FOUR managers. You'd expect any top manager to develop a team to play in their philosophy in that time wouldn't you?Not if you are David Moyes or Paul Lambert, Moyes been doing the same thing at Everton for 10 years then we can all see what happened to him at MU, same with Lambert where after 2 years his young promising team is going nowhere too. Sometime it is not the time but the strategy, it is pointless keep doing the same thing every year like Wenger and you will get the lost the same result. We need to change a little bit always even after a great season just to fall in with the rest. Atletico started out getting thumped every single time against Real and Barca at 1st too but they learn and adapted and now they are nearly impossible to beat.This is partly why Bayern got destroyed too, I doubt even if they were on last season form they could have beaten Real. It is all about always adapting a little bit on top of what you got to survive, Mou and Pep refused this season and they both got punished by teams who might not be as good on paper but still soundly be able to defeat. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 What i find funny is this fantasy we played free flowing sexy football under Rafa, did you not see our performance at The Ethiad under him? if that wasn't parking the bus then nothing we have done this season is either.Then there is the 0-0 draw with Fulham, 1-0 lost to QPR and other bs results where we hardly create a single chance. People remember 1-2 of those games where we just beat Villa 8-0 and think that is the blueprint of Rafa. No it wasn't. Tomo and darrus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 The best we played was under RDM, altough we was exposed at the back. It was a pity they sack him so early.I'm never in favor of sacking manager so soon. There's a couple that should have never happened. After Mourinho left, Avram was just a temp. Okay he did his job and left. No problem there. Scolari....worst appointment ever under Roman. Did great with Hiddink, wish had he stayed but didn't so move on. Carlo was dead on the money. A good manager that brought nice balance to our team. The whole second season was a disaster that came after letting go a lot of players and having a thin squad with a lot of young players.....sounds similar to this season, with a couple of exception. Firing him after one good and one bad season was just ludicrous. And more ludicrous was spending money to get AVB. Second worst mistake in the Roman era. After that RDM should have continue but Roman is something. Benitez came in as temp and did good. But in all of this, the craziness of sacking manager has made our club really unstable. I'm glad that Mourinho would continue a second season. As for a manager it's hard to build a team in less then one season. Usually takes 2 to 3 seasons. If in those 2 to 3 season there is really no progress then you move on. You did everything you could to back the manager. The best we played was under RDM, altough we was exposed at the back. It was a pity they sack him so early.I'm never in favor of sacking manager so soon. There's a couple that should have never happened. After Mourinho left, Avram was just a temp. Okay he did his job and left. No problem there. Scolari....worst appointment ever under Roman. Did great with Hiddink, wish had he stayed but didn't so move on. Carlo was dead on the money. A good manager that brought nice balance to our team. The whole second season was a disaster that came after letting go a lot of players and having a thin squad with a lot of young players.....sounds similar to this season, with a couple of exception. Firing him after one good and one bad season was just ludicrous. And more ludicrous was spending money to get AVB. Second worst mistake in the Roman era. After that RDM should have continue but Roman is something. Benitez came in as temp and did good. But in all of this, the craziness of sacking manager has made our club really unstable. I'm glad that Mourinho would continue a second season. As for a manager it's hard to build a team in less then one season. Usually takes 2 to 3 seasons. If in those 2 to 3 season there is really no progress then you move on. You did everything you could to back the manager. RDM did try and it looked good when teams rolled over for us (Newcastle, Wolves) but when we faced managers with a tight tactical plan (Conte) we looked utterly clueless.RDM did amazing in his interim spell, but the full time gig was a completely different ball game and it was to much for him, 2 wins in 9 was not just a dip in form, it's relegation form. Shane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 The best we played was under RDM, altough we was exposed at the back. It was a pity they sack him so early.I'm never in favor of sacking manager so soon. There's a couple that should have never happened. After Mourinho left, Avram was just a temp. Okay he did his job and left. No problem there. Scolari....worst appointment ever under Roman. Did great with Hiddink, wish had he stayed but didn't so move on. Carlo was dead on the money. A good manager that brought nice balance to our team. The whole second season was a disaster that came after letting go a lot of players and having a thin squad with a lot of young players.....sounds similar to this season, with a couple of exception. Firing him after one good and one bad season was just ludicrous. And more ludicrous was spending money to get AVB. Second worst mistake in the Roman era. After that RDM should have continue but Roman is something. Benitez came in as temp and did good. But in all of this, the craziness of sacking manager has made our club really unstable. I'm glad that Mourinho would continue a second season. As for a manager it's hard to build a team in less then one season. Usually takes 2 to 3 seasons. If in those 2 to 3 season there is really no progress then you move on. You did everything you could to back the manager. Good post. Carlo sacking is still one that makes me angry. Crazy to sack him, we did the double breaking the record for most goals in the Premiership, If it wasn't for a Jose masterclass at the Bridge, We probably would have won the Champions League. Now at Real he's doing to Di Maria what he did to Malouda. He needed to be given the money AVB got to bring in a few new players for us. Fernando and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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