The Mourinho Thread

[kellzfresh 7,226]

I'd rather have a team that molds in to a situation. One that demolishes less potent oponents with style and gets sturdy to the Bayerns and Barca's of the world ... and Jose is capable of building such a team, I hope/believe

Mourinho built the league winning madrid with the best goal record in spain league ever(better than anything barcelona has done and in any europe league with 121goals)

He is capable, but if he goes attacking, we need finishers to put these balls at the back of the net because we will sacrifice the defensive solidity in exchange for entertainment.

That's why he said we are 3 signings from being competing on all fronts next season. We have to wait for our benzema/cavani/costa/balloteli/mandzukic that can both add creativity, assists and finish, our modric/gundogan that can keep better possession for us, spray long passes like former mourinho teams(alonso, thiagomotta) and have energy at the same time, and our left back to produce balance in the team and help hazard.

If we are not entertaining after 2 months into next season, then I won't be happy.

We won't play like Bayern, but after we fix LB, CM and ST, it's inevitable we will play much better football.

We are also forgotten that we had mentality of people okay with 3rd for the past 3 seasons while watching the manchester clubs bully us. Mourinho had a more difficult job changing our mentality to win every single week and stay in a title race, instead of falling out by january. Changing the mentality is the first step, then the rest will follow.

[Fernando 6,378]

You know one thing that just hit me?

It seems like Mourinho motivates teams and coaches to prove him wrong.

I remember when Mourinho was bashing Barcelona cause they had not won many CL trophies while he won one with Porto. Then Barcelona becomes one of the best teams bashing every team in europe.

Now he went on saying that Wenger is a specialist in failure, and Wenger has the clear chances of winning a trophy soon......

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

Remember at the start off the season there were post's about how Mou would favour all his old boys?

Well so far he sold Essien after barely playing him, dropped Cole and put a makeshift RB in his place and since Matic has signed Lamps has seen his fair share off benchtime also. He might even swap Cech for Courtois in the summer. Next season it's quite possible that JT will be the only player from the first coming playing regularly.

Mourinho doesn't do sentiments, Carvalho found that out at Real, Essien and Cole have this season and Cech could be next.

And it's only JM who could have pulled this off with little- to no media backlash.

That whole AVB circus :confused: . Damn what a nightmare that was when he was in charge.

[DoubleO 192]

You know one thing that just hit me?

It seems like Mourinho motivates teams and coaches to prove him wrong.

I remember when Mourinho was bashing Barcelona cause they had not won many CL trophies while he won one with Porto. Then Barcelona becomes one of the best teams bashing every team in europe.

Now he went on saying that Wenger is a specialist in failure, and Wenger has the clear chances of winning a trophy soon......

This theory deserves a Nobel!

[Barbara 15,149]

We all know Goal.com shouldn't ever be used as a reliable source, but well, let's do it for fun anyway.

They're saying Mourinho is going to sign a new CB, LB and ST as his main targets during the next window.

I really wish he didn't love Ramires that much and actually replaced the CB for a top #8, but as I also said a few times, it's not going to happen. Ramires is going to stay at Chelsea forever under Mourinho.

Anyway, this is aligned with what we've been talking and I do hope Shaw comes and a great striker. Now who could the CB be? I'm still not sure Varane's release clause is so low, but if that's the case, then I'd say bring him. I can't think of a better prospect unless it's someone more experienced... but we only need experience if Luiz leaves

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2014/03/10/4674683/revealed-mourinho-finalising-chelsea-summer-overhaul-plans

[Ze Mario 638]

why some ppl like to complicated things? football is simple. score more than goal conceded. even jose tried to complicate at the beginning of this season. fortunately he back to his sense and the result is we back on top with least conceded team.

other teams always make it complicated with their motto bla bla, philosophy bla bla, the best defense is offense... the simple thing to do, and mou said its easier, sort the defense right is first thing first, then follow that up with improvement in attacking area.

pragmatic? all pragmatic ways are the simplest way

[ZOS 580]

We all know Goal.com shouldn't ever be used as a reliable source, but well, let's do it for fun anyway.

They're saying Mourinho is going to sign a new CB, LB and ST as his main targets during the next window.

I really wish he didn't love Ramires that much and actually replaced the CB for a top #8, but as I also said a few times, it's not going to happen. Ramires is going to stay at Chelsea forever under Mourinho.

Anyway, this is aligned with what we've been talking and I do hope Shaw comes and a great striker. Now who could the CB be? I'm still not sure Varane's release clause is so low, but if that's the case, then I'd say bring him. I can't think of a better prospect unless it's someone more experienced... but we only need experience if Luiz leaves

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2014/03/10/4674683/revealed-mourinho-finalising-chelsea-summer-overhaul-plans

I hope it's not true that he isn't looking for a DLP, everybody knows we're in a dire need of that

PS: Goal.com are getting more reliable the last couple of years, but the 'Guarin to Chelsea' news was a major blow to their reputation, they stuck to it the whole January ... hope this on is also inaccurate

[duo11bluecl 207]

The chance of signing of Varane is -100%. We go in and bid, they are gonna bump his wages up to 100k or more. More like selling Luiz and bringing Zouma in, maybe Mangala too if Porto accept an offer from City that we can match(anything more than 20m for him is overpriced for me). LB is Shaw obviously, kind of destined to happen as he admits to being a Chelsea fan, Cole is leaving too= perfect timing. ST is not even needed to discuss about.

[duo11bluecl 207]

Assume(believe) we get through to QF of CL, who would you like us to get?

Barcelona

PSG

Bayern

Atletico

Real Madrid

MU(I think they will beat Olympiakos)

Dortmund

If Olympiakos manage to get through obviously them...otherwise I would have to say PSG or Dortmund. Atletico might seem the weakest they have actually been one of the best team in Europe this season. Their defence is just as good as us, I don't think that would suit our counter attacking game at all. Obviously Barca, Bayern and Real are just too strong while PSG got the best ST and CB in the world but still beatable. I think Jose would most likely choose Dortmund again if he has to and would want to or MU because now they are shit under Moyes.

[Barbara 15,149]

I think we can beat anyone at UCL right now except Real Madrid. Bayern would be difficult but I believe we can do it. I hardly see us beating RM right now but I believe Bayern can beat them. I guess Bayern is a bad match up for them and they're a bad match up for us because of the teams' styles.

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[LAB 1,030]

PL is far more important imo this season. So i hope we get Bayern who is supposed to be the strongest (not imo though but it's about the public opinion). If we get through them it's fantastic news and who knows, maybe it builds our confidence and we get the chance to do something great! If not, it's fantastic news also, because we can concentrate only in PL. Win-win situation.

[Tomo 21,684]

Assume(believe) we get through to QF of CL, who would you like us to get?

Barcelona

PSG

Bayern

Atletico

Real Madrid

MU(I think they will beat Olympiakos)

Dortmund

If Olympiakos manage to get through obviously them...otherwise I would have to say PSG or Dortmund. Atletico might seem the weakest they have actually been one of the best team in Europe this season. Their defence is just as good as us, I don't think that would suit our counter attacking game at all. Obviously Barca, Bayern and Real are just too strong while PSG got the best ST and CB in the world but still beatable. I think Jose would most likely choose Dortmund again if he has to and would want to or MU because now they are shit under Moyes.

We haven't got past Gala yet, but IF WE DO, then we are strong enough to beat anyone in a 1 off tie.

We have already given Bayern a run for their money this season and if Arsenal can match them in their own stadium im sure we could. Barca have been poor for their standards this season and with our defence and counter attack i would actually have us as favourite's if we faced them.

Real are the team i would most like to avoid, but Carlo had the stronger team last time he faced Jose and we know how that ended.

In other words, bring whoever on, im cautiously optimistic about our chances, if we had Matic available i would seriously fancy our chances.

[Tomo 21,684]

Last two world cup years Eto'o has got the winner at Stamford Bridge in the round off 16 and his team went on to win league and CL.

If he scores the winner vs Gala something is happening.

[duo11bluecl 207]

PL is far more important imo this season. So i hope we get Bayern who is supposed to be the strongest (not imo though but it's about the public opinion). If we get through them it's fantastic news and who knows, maybe it builds our confidence and we get the chance to do something great! If not, it's fantastic news also, because we can concentrate only in PL. Win-win situation.

Actually that is a good point, I am sure Jose won't mind that. The thing is since when did we gave up on 1 big trophy, Remember 07-07, 07-08 and others when we challenged for both, that is a small team mentality imo.

We haven't got past Gala yet, but IF WE DO, then we are strong enough to beat anyone in a 1 off tie.

We have already given Bayern a run for their money this season and if Arsenal can match them in their own stadium im sure we could. Barca have been poor for their standards this season and with our defence and counter attack i would actually have us as favourite's if we faced them.

Real are the team i would most like to avoid, but Carlo had the stronger team last time he faced Jose and we know how that ended.

In other words, bring whoever on, im cautiously optimistic about our chances, if we had Matic available i would seriously fancy our chances.

Agreed but it is not 1 off though, but 2. The thing is again they were 2-0 up, if it had been 1-0 to Arsenal they would have gone full ultra attack. Madrid imo is the scariest, best attack and defence in Europe atm, they look stronger than Bayern of last season imo where there is no all these messing passing about but just full on attack until 2,3-0 up then sit back.

Carlo had the stronger team you sure? in the season that Inter won the competition... Yep I agree too can't wait

[Tomo 21,684]

Actually that is a good point, I am sure Jose won't mind that. The thing is since when did we gave up on 1 big trophy, Remember 07-07, 07-08 and others when we challenged for both, that is a small team mentality imo.

Agreed but it is not 1 off though, but 2. The thing is again they were 2-0 up, if it had been 1-0 to Arsenal they would have gone full ultra attack. Madrid imo is the scariest, best attack and defence in Europe atm, they look stronger than Bayern of last season imo where there is no all these messing passing about but just full on attack until 2,3-0 up then sit back.

Carlo had the stronger team you sure? in the season that Inter won the competition... Yep I agree too can't wait

We won the CL in 2012 but we were inferior to all our opponents from Napoli onwards, and i include Benfica in that.

I believe in 09-10 our squad was better than Inter's, but they had Jose and we didn't, as much as i love Carlo, Jose is a level above him.

In terms off it being a tie it's a one off, manager's prepare effectively for a 180 minute match, which is why first leg's in the latter stages can turn into tedious game's off chess, cause really it's a 90 minute first half.

[duo11bluecl 207]

We won the CL in 2012 but we were inferior to all our opponents from Napoli onwards, and i include Benfica in that.

I believe in 09-10 our squad was better than Inter's, but they had Jose and we didn't, as much as i love Carlo, Jose is a level above him.

In terms off it being a tie it's a one off, manager's prepare effectively for a 180 minute match, which is why first leg's in the latter stages can turn into tedious game's off chess, cause really it's a 90 minute first half.

Well tbf eventually Sneijder, Maicon, Lucio, Millito, Cesar were all in best team of the year but still opinions I suppose

Ah right I see yh I agree, thing is sometime that 1st game can be a real killer blow, like Schalke, Arsenal and tomorrow City found out, Milan too that losing at home is a bad idea. It doesn't work to go full on defensive just because they are a better team like City found out eventually or Milan 1st leg. Not good to go all out attack either like Arsenal. But I am sure in Jose he will know what to do, just hope he doesn't repeat the fk up of Dortmund last season again if we get Madrid/Bayern, need to play like against City imo.

[LAB 1,030]

True, we are no small team to think like that. But without Matic and a proper striker i simply cannot realisticly put us favourites for CL. Also the importance of PL is not because of some disbelieve of me that we cannot expect anything from CL, but is genuinely first in my preference list since I think it's what we need right now. That means if I had to choose one, I'd choose PL 100%

[Toli 977]

I think we can beat anyone at UCL right now except Real Madrid. Bayern would be difficult but I believe we can do it. I hardly see us beating RM right now but I believe Bayern can beat them. I guess Bayern is a bad match up for them and they're a bad match up for us because of the teams' styles.

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Its easier to play against Real than Bayern though. dont get why you think we could beat Bayern eager than Madrid. Madrid are not a team for now (a lot of individualism in the system), while Bayern is a PERFECT team. dont think that the Super Cup result is relevant at all. this was the beginning of the season and Bayern was nowhere as good as they are now. Bayern could also easily smash us, if they have a very good day. Bayern would be really the least opponent I would like to have. Madrid is more vulnerable, especially in defense and on counter-attacks. Futhermore their system isnt worked out yet and has some flaws in it. especially when the opponent is pressing them high on the pitch, they are looking lost at times (Atletico game for example). Bayern is the best team in the world right now and we would struggle with their speed and their pressing. Especially with Matic missing and our pivot being not that good.

Best opponent would be Piräus/United though without a doubt. Atletico,Dortmund, Barca would be tough opponents, but beatable. PSG, Real, Bayern would be the least I want.